Liu Kang Man of Zero integrity...Beware

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Steel,

I was going to post a follow up in his for sale thread, but didn't want an infraction.

In any event, Liu Kang, that was some pretty weak shit you pulled off. When you decided to sell something the onus is on you to figure out what it's worth before posting it, and particularly before accepting payment. Lame.

Liu Kang, just to satisfy my curiosity what sage words of advice did you receive that made you lose your integrity and courtesy?

I think you will be hard pressed from this point forward to find any of the Busse crowd as forthcoming to strike a deal.

In the famous words of Dave Chappelle "I'm going to need four hands so I can give your BS four thumbs down." :thumbdn::thumbdn::thumbdn::thumbdn:
 
Did you get your money back?

My opinion. The guy didn't know what he had and a bunch of members PMd him with that knowledge after your I'll take it. Should he have sold it at the original price anyway? Maybe. I would've, and have done so in the past. This guy chose not to. This isn't Ebay, and there are no rules against backing out of a deal you're not comfortable with. I've done hundreds of deals on BFC. If I posted negative everytime a deal fell through by fault of the other party, my post count would be a lot higher.

You did get a refund correct? It wasn't stated in your post.


DE OPPRESSO LIBER said:
Where are you LIU QUEEN you suck look out for my dog:eek:
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Check which forum you're in. It isn't W&C.
 
I did get my money back Kiahs.
So you have changed your mind on deals after a couple of days and then refunded when a better offer showed up?
 
steelnut said:
I did get my money back Kiahs.
So you have changed your mind on deals after a couple of days and then refunded when a better offer showed up?
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No. What I was saying is that I've had plenty of others back out on deals. I've never backed out on a deal. My rep is flawless. :thumbup:
 
Liu Kang is a RichardNoggin':thumbdn:
No way to do business;If you sell it for one price,stick to it.Don't back out because someone said you can get more.
 
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steelnut said:
This Guy can not say the same......
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I understand where you're coming from, but I do believe it was confusion on his part, and he just didn't understand what he had.

There was a thread a few days ago about a Busse sold on Ebay for $0.99. It was a mistake on the seller's part and everyone on the Busse forum said as much. This isn't exactly the same, but it's similar in that the buyer made a mistake which led him to not follow through.

I wouldn't have backed out on the deal, but that's just me. It's been stated here time and again that a deal is not done unless both parties are satisfied. He wasn't.

Glad you got your money back though.
 
kiahs said:
There was a thread a few days ago about a Busse sold on Ebay for $0.99. It was a mistake on the seller's part and everyone on the Busse forum said as much. This isn't exactly the same, but it's similar in that the buyer made a mistake which led him to not follow through.
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I was the "buyer" of that $0.99 Busse, and I'm not convinced this situation is at all similar. I would think that Liu Kang's price was plus or minus 15% of what might be reasonably recovered as opposed ~700% for the FBM LE on the bay. And, it does not even begin to deal with Liu Kang having Steel's money for 48 hours while he collects unsolicited and potentially unqualified advice on the price, gathers other offers, etc.
 
steelnut said:
I did get my money back Kiahs.
So you have changed your mind on deals after a couple of days and then refunded when a better offer showed up?
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He didn't take a better offer though, he said he was keeping it:
Liu Kang said:
Ok, sorry to all but I am going to withdraw the Busse. I have been sent messages from members of this community letting me know that this would be a poor mistake on my part and that I should have searched this knife before posting the amount. In my own defense I did search it for what information I did have. The knife was marked Busse and Combat but just so everyone knows, that's way too general. I think I may appreciate this knife if I learn a bit more so I have decided to keep this in my personal collection for now and see. Sorry for any inconvenience that I may have caused, this is the first Busse I have ever gotten my hands on, so a bit new to all of this.
Dan
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Also in his defense, I just made a purchase from Liu Kang and it was a flawless transaction.
 
maybe he really needed the money??

FWIW i know its a sucko thing to do but though i dont agree with it i do understand if ya are hurting and every penny counts.
 
And rocks to the guys that queered the deal. :thumbdn::thumbdn:

Presumably Liu Kang was not offering the knife at a loss. So why should other members tell him after the fact that he could have made even more money? He was a big boy; he could have and should have done his homework on the model and market pricing. New folk come into the Busse forum all the time to ask for help with this new knife they have acquired.
 
First off, I would like to thank Chameleonbear for his kind words and coming to my defense.
I guess I should address this since everyone wants to know what happened. So after getting emails and me overthinking everything, here is the email I sent to steelnut:

Would you be very upset if I backed out of this deal and just sent you your money back. Since the posting, I have received private messages and asking me if I know what I'm selling and why I didn't do a search first. In my defense, I did try searching, all that is on it is Busse and combat and trust me, that doesn't do much. Anyway, it seem some knife collectors are mad at me but I don't really care about that. What has had me thinking is that this is a very rare piece and later on if I learn to love and/or collect this brand, I will really regret this transaction. To be honest I still don't see it but I believe myself to be a good collector and don't want to do anything that I may really regret later. How about if I decide to sell this later on, I will let you take first dibs? cause I really don't think I could live with myself if I made a huge mistake now. I didn't even have the knife for 3 hours before posting it. And believe it or not I still would have made a good profit selling it to you at that price. What do you think?

To be perfectly honest, if he was nice in his with how much he would really like the knife, I know for a fact I would have sold it to him. But I didn't like his repose and then he put negative comments on about me and all the negative talk. I know now that this is a hard to get knife but not sure I will keep this knife. I did not offer this to anyone else but now with the negative talk don't know if I want to see to steelnut even if I did decide to sell it. I don't wish bad things to anyone, even those who judge me. But I just wanted to say something in my own defense. So for all of you that have never made a mistake, go ahead and throw the first stone.
 
if he was nice in his with how much he would really like the knife, I know for a fact I would have sold it to him. But I didn't like his repose and then he put negative comments on about me and all the negative talk.
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So it's the buyers fault?


Mitch
 
You bought a collection of knives to sell for profit, you were profiting on our transaction, but found out you could make more by holding on to it.
Basic greed...... At least be honest:cool::cool:


I was not rude until after you started weaseling....
 
Liu, HONOR the sale and Learn from your Lack of knowledge know what you have before you list it. this is Bad business and im sure it wont be tolerated here:eek:
 
I think steelnut did "really want" the knife to have bought it.
I've never bought anything I didn't want.
A few things I regretted but that's another deal entirely!
 
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