Lone Wolf Project: Post All Your "Experiments" Here

It is amazing to step back and do things an old way for change, isin't it?

When I took my cross country motorcycle ride in 2000 I wanted to keep a journal of my trip, so I had my old beat up dented Cross pen from 1963, and a composition book in a zip lock bag. Every night after making camp I sat up in my tent and wrote up my day's experiances by the light of a minimag in a headband holder. Imagine, once upon a time people wrote long letters to far off family and friends.

Since starting this experiment, I have become a bit more cycnical about the over abundance of our consumer society. I also have done away with my e-mail, and have wrote a few letters to some far off friends explaining that. To my surprise I got letters back. One friend razed me for my actions making him sit down and write, two other friends thought it a great idea and said it made them think more about what they said. Now we are writing back and forth, talking about how some of the civil war soldiers whose letters and journals were used by Ken Burns were so much more literate than now-a-days young people. I think slowing down and writing a letter makes one use their mind more. Maybe pen and paper lend themselves more to creative thoughts than electonic stuff. Victor Hugo, Alexander Dumas, and Mark Twain must have taken time over the written word.

An ink pen is like a well patina'd pocket knife, it still has a place in the world.


As a person in the education field, I can attest to the negative effect that electronic media is having on literacy (and clear thinking). I see it in penmanship as well as in clarity of expression and depth of thought; young people just don't read or write print material much anymore. Word processing and text messaging may be labor-saving devices, but they are also shortcuts to thinking. In the 1970's, the average vocabulary of a high school senior was about 30,000 words. Now it's about 10,000.

I too keep trip journals of my motorcycle trips. At the campsite in the evening, I like to record my impressions in a Moleskine with a fountain pen, illminated by a Maglite in a headstrap, and lubricated with two fingers of Johnny Walker. I paste in photos later at home. It's fun to look back at these journals, especially in the winter!
 
As a matter of fact, the first boy scout knives with screwdriver and can opener blades was made in 1911 by the New York Knife company. Victorinox started in buisness in 1890, and those early sak's and scout knives were carbon steel.

Sure. I guess I was just being literal, considering what would have happened if today's SAK and Leatherman were available back in the day.
 
EDC update. Today at work, one of our freezers was, well, frozen. LOL. The sides on the inside were all frozen with ice and frost, making it difficult for the sensors to read the temp and messing it all up, so we had to chip some ice off. All we had available at the moment was a plastic dust pan, and my SAK. Well, the dust pan wasn't doing too good of a job, as the ice went all the way to the top rim of the freezer, and it couldn't break through. So I used the can opener on my SAK to break the ice at the top and chip it off, making a lip for my co-worker to stick the dust pan into and break the rest of the ice. I also used the hook on my SAK to turn it into a coat hanger. I had to change for a show, and my shirt was wet (it rained today), and I didn't want to put it on the dirty, sandy floor, so i buttoned it up, opened up the hook, hung it on a ledge, and hung my shirt from it, only rather then put it around the inside of my collar (too wide for my SAK), I put it into the space between the last and next to last buttons. Pretty cool improv, I thought.
 
For the past couple of weeks now, I've been sticking to the Wenger SI and have come to some conclusions.

The basic scout pattern has done everything I needed without the need of carrying extra tools like keychain screwdrivers and P-38's. It's also been re-teaching me some of what I had learned but semi-forgotten so long ago.

Back when I was a scout, somehow me, and Dave, and Ev, and even Bobby Ryerson got by with this same pattern. We'd take off on adventures with some sandwiches and a few pieces of gear in our old canvas Yucca packs that were carried in the basket on our balloon tired Schwinn bicycles. We'd explore every acre of woods within bicycle range, sometimes camp out, and our only piece of cutlery in those days were our scout knives. I guess life was simple back then, and one single pocket knife was all we needed for some reason. Now that knife was one of our greatest treasures on earth, don't get me wrong, and it seemed like there was little we could not do if we had our pocket knife and some twine along. Even Mr. Van, with all those little 3 and 3 1/4 serpintine jacks that he used for the detail whittling of faces in napkin rings, carried his old Remington on a belt hook for most of his use.

In the couple of weeks I had carried the Buck stockman as my only edc, I had a vague feeling of something missing. Like the faint feeling of disquiet you get, driving off on the start of a trip feeling there is something you have forgotten, but can't remember just what it is.

There was a post not too long ago where a poster asked what pattern of knife do you feel identified with. Asked that same question now, I would have to answer "a scout knife". When I stop to thik about it, I now realize that it is the pattern I have carried most of my life. Sure I played around with sodbusters, stockmen, some peanuts, but since the age of 12 there has been a scout knife around, someplace in some way, shape, or form, including a sak. All those years where I had something in my right front pocket, there was always the belt pouch with the Victorinox tinker or or the old Wenger SI packed piggy back with a small AA or single AAA flashlight.

Maybe it was just so familiar, that it was like it became part of the background, and unnoticed exept for the times I needed one of its tools, or the wide spear blade that spread peanut butter or cream cheese better than a slim clip point. Maybe after so many years it was so old, that it did not have the glamore that the "new" knife did when I was experimenting with a new pattern. Certainly it was old with me.

I figure I started at age 12 with a scout, and never really stopped. When I left home to join the army, I left my scout knife dad had given me home, lest it get stollen in the barracks. I used the service issue Camillus for years till one day at a Oshmans Sporting goods store in San Antonio I saw and bought my first sak. It was a good knife, and it got carried many miles in one of those O.D. green nylon web pouches we made back then to keep from loosing the knife from a fatigue pants pocket. Then while stationed in Germany, I saw my first all metal handle Wenger SI and traded a German soldier out of it for my Camillus. I don't know why he wanted a Camillus, I think I got the better end of the deal. But that Wenger got placed in the web belt pouch from then on. By now its been 55 years I've had a scout or sak on me, no matter what else I've had or been experimenting with.

So I guess I've now learned something from this experiment. I now know that with a scout type pattern, I've come home to where I started off. Maybe we really are shaped by early experiances.
 
Hmmm....... almost like you were talking reverently about your dad, JK. He carried the Peanut forever, and probably didn't even think about it. It was just his knife, his tool. When he needed it, he used it. It was his faithful companion. It just became a part of him and faded into the background, no different then his arm or leg, yet just as synonomous with him. With you it's the Scout pattern. Soddies, Peanuts, Stockmen, etc., have come and gone, but the Scout pattern, in this case your Wenger SI, has stood the test of time. It is your fifth limb. Cool.
As far as this experiment and me, I have kind've stopped coming on here as much. Not sure if that's a good thing, but my point is, I've become pretty pragmatic about my knife use. I use my SAK, and that's it. Haven't looked at other knives, haven't passed by Bass Pro Shop, haven't come on here thinking "Ooh, what goodies await me in there today?" I wake up, grab my knife, and go. Don't worry about what to grab, don't worry about which knife would best meet my needs, etc. Life has become pretty simple in that regard.
 
In the couple of weeks I had carried the Buck stockman as my only edc, I had a vague feeling of something missing. Like the faint feeling of disquiet you get, driving off on the start of a trip feeling there is something you have forgotten, but can't remember just what it is.

I felt the same way jackknife. I was pretty much like a junkie getting a fix when my SAK mini-champ went back into my pocket. I used the screwdrivers, scissors and pen all the time before I started the "experiment." Funny thing is that your posts about your SI inspired me to pick up a Vic Soldier(didn't need the bail on the SI) and I liked that thing so much I had to give up on the experiment, so I could carry it. I love the versatility in such a thin, light package. I'm 35 and have had a pocket knife of some sort since about 8. I had a scout knife first and have owned more SAK's than anything due to their popularity over my lifetime. As much as I love my stockman, sowbelly and peanuts a SAK is rarely out of reach.
 
An update on the happenings of my knife use, the past week, the most used tool has been the scissors on my SAK. A few weeks ago was using the can opener alot, now it's the scissors. At work sometimes I need to cut the train wrist bands off a guest, because it't too tight or they don't want it on or whatever, and it's alot less intimidating if you approach them with a small set of scissors then with a small knife blade. What's interesting, too, is, I HAVE used the small knife blade in the past, and it STILL gets strange looks at times, but when I use the scissors, they say "Woaw, cool, it has scissors!! What else does it have?" and they want me to show them everything. Once that happenes, even the knife blades don't bother them because, aww cool it's a swiss army knife!! "See, son, Gator wrestlers carry swiss army knives!!" LOL. Very strange how the use of the knife blade is scary, but not if you show it to them AFTER the other tools.
 
As far as this experiment and me, I have kind've stopped coming on here as much. Not sure if that's a good thing, but my point is, I've become pretty pragmatic about my knife use. I use my SAK, and that's it. Haven't looked at other knives, haven't passed by Bass Pro Shop, haven't come on here thinking "Ooh, what goodies await me in there today?" I wake up, grab my knife, and go. Don't worry about what to grab, don't worry about which knife would best meet my needs, etc. Life has become pretty simple in that regard.

I think we're getting a glimpse of how our grand fathers got by. Not just the knife thing, but this pragmatic outlook and operating philosophy. One thing I noticed about dad and his generation of men, they didn't shop. They went about the buisness of everyday life passing by stores and not stopping untill the actually needed something. Dad had this habit of making a little buisness size note pad out of paper folded up into a card size shape, staple the top and then trim the edges with a sissors. He would carry this in his wallet and sometimes he'd think of something and take it out and make a note with the small stub of pencil he had in his pocket. When he went to a store, he went right to where he needed what was on the little list or note on his pad, got what he was looking for, then out. No browsing.

I think that we're living in this age of exsess material consumption, and its easy to get influenced. How much of what we buy is really a nessesary expenditure?

Life gets sooo much easier when you simplify. Like you said ElCuchillo, you just grab your sak and go. Sometimes you have to back away from the trees to appretiate the beauty of the forest.
 
"See, son, Gator wrestlers carry swiss army knives!!" LOL. Very strange how the use of the knife blade is scary, but not if you show it to them AFTER the other tools.

I recall seeing Steve Irwin using a sak of some sort that he had his keys attached to. :thumbup:
 
You know what? I do TOO now that you mention it!! LOL. He was using it to cut the tape off some croc or other, just as I use mine to remove the tape off our gators. How cool is that?
 
Whew! I've just read all 16 pages of this thread, From philosophy, to history, to personal taste, it has everything! Thankyou all for an enjoyable read.
With my knives, my SAK Compact has all the tools I need and is light enough to carry comfortably, but in my eyes it's very ugly next to my SAK Pioneer or Case Peanut. We'll see what happens. O' what a burden to carry an ugly knife...
 
With my knives, my SAK Compact has all the tools I need and is light enough to carry comfortably, but in my eyes it's very ugly next to my SAK Pioneer or Case Peanut. We'll see what happens. O' what a burden to carry an ugly knife...

You never know, beef. You just might surprise yourself and fall in love with that ugly ol' Compact. Stranger things have happened. Just ask jackknife. :)
 
Whew! I've just read all 16 pages of this thread, From philosophy, to history, to personal taste, it has everything! Thankyou all for an enjoyable read.
With my knives, my SAK Compact has all the tools I need and is light enough to carry comfortably, but in my eyes it's very ugly next to my SAK Pioneer or Case Peanut. We'll see what happens. O' what a burden to carry an ugly knife...

Maybe we should just think "ugly is as ugly does."

I've got this Smith and Wesson 617. I had bought it to replace the Smith and Wesson modle 18 I sold very long ago and kicked myself for later. It has none of the cosmetic grace and beauty of the old gun, is a little heavier due to the underlug on the 4 inch barrel, and the rubber grips don't have the warmth or looks of the medallion walnut the old gun had. it looks like a over weight version of the old gun, with a stainless finish that will never change. It is not a thing of beauty.

But it's a better shooting gun than the old one. The bit heavier weight makes it hold steadier, the heavy barrel does not change impact point as it heats up from alot of firing, the stainless finish is nice for those rainy days when I feel like shooting anyways, and the Hogue grips give a better level of control than the old walnut.

In the past year and a half I've been using this gun, I have become very very attached to it. It has become beautifull to me.
 
Function and reliablility have their own aesthetic quality to me. A well used old car, dinged up and battered, but still in working condition is beautiful to me. It has character. My SAK Super Tinker is Beautiful to me. No, not in the same way as my Bone Stag Peanut, but in the sense that it is old reliable. It's already pretty well used, has some character marks on it (my year old daughter grabbed it the other day and was chewing on it, so now the handles have some small teeth marks on them) and I know, that day in and day out, it is right there by my side, no matter what happens. There's some beauty in that to me. Same with my multitools. When I carried them, they were beautiful to me, and I'd take them out and look at them, shine them up, make them prettier, etc. Just a hunk of steel, but beautiful.
 
Yoooohooo...hey you Lonewolf experimentor guys, I'm giving a knife away! :) (remember post #21 :D )
 
Yoooohooo...hey you Lonewolf experimentor guys, I'm giving a knife away! :) (remember post #21 :D )

Crap. I wish I had remembered that "slippy" was too girly before using that term in my post regarding your folksy trade :foot: .

:p If I win the give away/trade, I swear I'll never use the word "slippy" again. :p
 
Crap. I wish I had remembered that "slippy" was too girly before using that term in my post regarding your folksy trade :foot: .

:p If I win the give away/trade, I swear I'll never use the word "slippy" again. :p

...and if you win, I will remind you when you slip up! ;)
 
OK, after some heavy thinking about it, I've decided to give this a try as well. My choice for the rest of the year is going to be a Case amber bone medium stockman in CV.

This is really a two-fold experiment for me. The first thing is to see if I can make it with only one knife like I've seen my grandfather, father, and father-in-law do. The only exception will be a sheath knife when hunting/camping.

The second reason I'm going to give it a try has to do with the CV blades. Being a heavy-set guy I sweat a lot, and I've had some bad luck with certain carbon blades before. However, I believe if I pay the proper attention to correct maintainance of the CV blades they should work out for me. So for me this experiment is both about minimizing and about taking proper care of my equipment.

That said, does anyone have any hints or tips for daily care of the carbon/CV blades. They're starting to develop a patina from some apple peeling a while back, so I'm going to have to start buying more fruit again to help it along.

Just use it daily, you'll be fine. As far as care, if you don't mind the smell, don't use 3-1 oil if you eat w/ it, use olive oil (it'll smell bad w/in a day trust me though I don't know why).
 
Just use it daily, you'll be fine. As far as care, if you don't mind the smell, don't use 3-1 oil if you eat w/ it, use olive oil (it'll smell bad w/in a day trust me though I don't know why).

Olive oil can go rancid quickly at room temperature, especially if it is subjected to potentially acidic sweat or water vapor from being in your pocket all day. Why not try mineral oil? It's food safe, doesn't go rancid, works great as joint lube and conditioner for bone and stag scales, and costs maybe $2-$3 for a pint at the grocers or pharmacy. Apply a drop with a toothpick or get a needle applicator bottle from a gunshop.
 
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