m-tech knives

[averageguy]

"I deal with mentally challenged people every day, I have specific training to communicate effectively with them. Thank you for affording me the opportunity to excercise my skills."

Yea - I feel the same way.

"Nobody is confusing them or suggesting that, except you, of course."

Actually another maker posted just that earlier in the thread.


"I can find use for a pile of turds. What does that have to do with stealing that pile from someone else's out house?"

What does stealing turds have to do with the subject of this post?

But to answer your question, to the extent the owner of the turds isn't materially harmed, I'm not sure what the problem is. You yourself have admitted that your potential customers aren't confused by a $15 knock-off.


"This is precisely why they are scumbags"

They may well be, but that doesn't keep all of us from dealing with them everyday. It is highly unlikely that your purchases last month were all from original designers and manufacturers. Whether it's tires or blowdryers, some part of what you purchased was made in China. Even if it was made in another country it was likely a knock-off.
There are a number of things you could still buy from the original manufacturer like Coca-Cola. Of course coke has been knocked-off by every soda manufacturer in the world.

If I'm to really care about the ethics of a business concern I'm going to look to those that have a material and negative or dangerous impact on a significant number of people.
Besides you and a few chicklet lovers - nobody gives a damn or is impacted by your knives.


"You have a right to be stupid."

Yea - I feel the same way.



"Yeah Right,friggin Moron!

"Man, either he just doesn't give a damed about what crook do , is a crook himself, or just a damed fool. I can understand not knowing. I can forgive ignorance. But he has been told different.

Any one ever notice the most ignorant people are many times the most arrogant as well?

It has been a long night in the shop, and this moron isn't worth another minute of my time. If he insist on being stupid, and proud of it, who are we to try and help him out. Especially since it seems he doesn't want the the advice of years of experience represented here by so many. Why he is here in the first place beats the hell out of me. He already knows everything there is to know. A legend in his own mind. Quick, someone sell him a Hong Kong Rolex! "



I don't need your help asshole.

 

[Keith Montgomery]

But to answer your question, to the extent the owner of the turds isn't materially harmed, I'm not sure what the problem is. You yourself have admitted that your potential customers aren't confused by a $15 knock-off.

Anyone that has designed something and had that design stolen has been materially harmed. The designer should have been paid for the use of the design. Not getting that payment is being financially harmed.

 

[MrMojoRising]

I've never seen anyone in this business with more integrity, character or honor than Sal. If he says they're crooks then that should end the thread. No further debate needed.

 

[Michael Lovett]

"I deal with mentally challenged people every day, I have specific training to communicate effectively with them. Thank you for affording me the opportunity to excercise my skills."

Yea - I feel the same way.

"Nobody is confusing them or suggesting that, except you, of course."

Actually another maker posted just that earlier in the thread.


"I can find use for a pile of turds. What does that have to do with stealing that pile from someone else's out house?"

What does stealing turds have to do with the subject of this post?

But to answer your question, to the extent the owner of the turds isn't materially harmed, I'm not sure what the problem is. You yourself have admitted that your potential customers aren't confused by a $15 knock-off.


"This is precisely why they are scumbags"

They may well be, but that doesn't keep all of us from dealing with them everyday. It is highly unlikely that your purchases last month were all from original designers and manufacturers. Whether it's tires or blowdryers, some part of what you purchased was made in China. Even if it was made in another country it was likely a knock-off.
There are a number of things you could still buy from the original manufacturer like Coca-Cola. Of course coke has been knocked-off by every soda manufacturer in the world.

If I'm to really care about the ethics of a business concern I'm going to look to those that have a material and negative or dangerous impact on a significant number of people.
Besides you and a few chicklet lovers - nobody gives a damn or is impacted by your knives.


"You have a right to be stupid."

Yea - I feel the same way.



"Yeah Right,friggin Moron!

"Man, either he just doesn't give a damed about what crook do , is a crook himself, or just a damed fool. I can understand not knowing. I can forgive ignorance. But he has been told different.

Any one ever notice the most ignorant people are many times the most arrogant as well?

It has been a long night in the shop, and this moron isn't worth another minute of my time. If he insist on being stupid, and proud of it, who are we to try and help him out. Especially since it seems he doesn't want the the advice of years of experience represented here by so many. Why he is here in the first place beats the hell out of me. He already knows everything there is to know. A legend in his own mind. Quick, someone sell him a Hong Kong Rolex! "



I don't need your help asshole.

My point exactly. Thank for pointing out what we all already know. So why are you here?

Do you even know who S. Glesser, T. Begg and M. Lovett are?
Your going to tell some of the top people in the industry just what makes a high quality knife, when it is embarrassingly obvious that you have no clue in the world what to look for?
Yeah, You don't need anyones help. Your too self centered, and stupid to understand it or appreciate it if it was offered.

Like I said, Your a complete waste of time. The only reason any of us is responding is to discuss ethics with those who DO GET Here.
And you ask WHO ARE YOU of several people here. Well Look up the names Newbie! We've all been making Knives for a lot longer than you have been collecting them. Who are WE? Our names are on our post. Now just who the hell are you. Your the one hiding behind a non name.:jerkit:
Now back to more important things. Making a REAL KNIFE! :thumbup:

 

[Confederate]

I wouldnt , and I would be willing to bet , if you showed an Mtech to either my 15 yr old or my 8 yr old they would laugh at it.

Well, if my youngster appreciated good knives that would be one thing. My wife tutors a great deal and though we have no kids of our own, I well remember my earlier years. At 15, I had a Boy Scout knife which was a real piece of crap. Loose bolsters, plastic handles, horrible blades and a little stainless loop on the end. I dare say I would have cared for a knife much better than most kids. My brother lost his first knife at 15 and used his second knife to carve wood off a guy's wood trim when he didn't answer his door quickly enough. (He was collecting for his paper route.) Of course I ratted him out and he got a whipping and my dad paid to have the damage repaired. My knife was always well oiled, and my brother's knife was always rusted.

A lot of folks these days give their kids a car, a cell phone and a credit card and tell them to stay out of their hair. Many of the kids my wife teach are hooked on computer games. They show up or don't, as they feel like it and their parents write the checks anyway. I've always like cutting wood myself and have used various knives for whatever I needed them for, but I've never abused even the two M-Tech knives I own. If I lost them tomorrow, good luck to whoever finds them, but I'd never tear one apart abusing it.

I'm also more into guns than knives, but I've become increasingly interested in them. If any company ripped off a design by someone else, I wouldn't knowingly buy their product. I did give a friend one of my M-Tech knives (which is one of the first I ever bought) and he carries it every day to this day. In fact, it's the very knife in the photograph I posted. If he showed any interest in a better knife, I'd give him one in a heartbeat, but he only uses it for light duty. I should send him a CRKT Wasp I have, and I will one day, but I just gave him a Ruger Security-Six, so I'll let him learn to use that.

As for the MTechs, yeah, I'd probably give one to a kid just to see how well he treated it. If he treated it like my brother, he'd have it for a long time.

I do carry one MTech in my camera bag, but I can't recall the last time I used it. It's the Karambit. I also have a few Maxams from my early days, including the SKLARGE, with a 5-inch blade. It's out in my car glove box.

I don't want to leave anyone with the opinion that I endorse MTechs, but the ones I've had didn't have the defects I've seen in even cheaper knives. Still, one of my Maxams cuts wood better than my CRKT Desert Cruiser. That damn chisel grind bevel just slides right over the bark. I am pretty happy with the Cold Steel knives I own, though. I don't need anything better, though I have some Spydercos and Kershaws that are very nice.

This is a Buck 110 that someone got a lot of good use from. I reckon
it would be the best thing to start a youngster out with, though the
spring can be quite stiff.

 

[Haze]

"I deal with mentally challenged people every day, I have specific training to communicate effectively with them. Thank you for affording me the opportunity to excercise my skills."

Yea - I feel the same way.

"Nobody is confusing them or suggesting that, except you, of course."

Actually another maker posted just that earlier in the thread.


"I can find use for a pile of turds. What does that have to do with stealing that pile from someone else's out house?"

What does stealing turds have to do with the subject of this post?

But to answer your question, to the extent the owner of the turds isn't materially harmed, I'm not sure what the problem is. You yourself have admitted that your potential customers aren't confused by a $15 knock-off.


"This is precisely why they are scumbags"

They may well be, but that doesn't keep all of us from dealing with them everyday. It is highly unlikely that your purchases last month were all from original designers and manufacturers. Whether it's tires or blowdryers, some part of what you purchased was made in China. Even if it was made in another country it was likely a knock-off.
There are a number of things you could still buy from the original manufacturer like Coca-Cola. Of course coke has been knocked-off by every soda manufacturer in the world.

If I'm to really care about the ethics of a business concern I'm going to look to those that have a material and negative or dangerous impact on a significant number of people.
Besides you and a few chicklet lovers - nobody gives a damn or is impacted by your knives.


"You have a right to be stupid."

Yea - I feel the same way.



"Yeah Right,friggin Moron!

"Man, either he just doesn't give a damed about what crook do , is a crook himself, or just a damed fool. I can understand not knowing. I can forgive ignorance. But he has been told different.

Any one ever notice the most ignorant people are many times the most arrogant as well?

It has been a long night in the shop, and this moron isn't worth another minute of my time. If he insist on being stupid, and proud of it, who are we to try and help him out. Especially since it seems he doesn't want the the advice of years of experience represented here by so many. Why he is here in the first place beats the hell out of me. He already knows everything there is to know. A legend in his own mind. Quick, someone sell him a Hong Kong Rolex! "



I don't need your help asshole.

You still cant figure out how to use the quote function i see

Your entire post is drivel,

You provide NO evedence at all to back up your position at all despite requests for pictures of YOUR latest m-tech knives or why you feel they are a good buy.

Many people have shot you down with reasons to why not to buy m-tech but you just cling to what ever you can to keep arguing rather than provide evedence of your position :thumbdn:

The name calling are just a show of your frustration and just belittle you firther.

Get a grip of your self :thumbdn:

 

[tntbegg]

Well, its obvious someone enjoys the sound of their keyboard clacking. Cling to whatever fallacies keep you warm at night, I'm betting thats all you have going for you.






Tanya

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Typical of this sort of thread, this sort of topic. It's a shame, but the personal interaction always seems to go downhill fast, and this one has gone downhill too far.

Please, focus on your opinions of the knives and NOT on your opinions of each other. The personal insults are unnecessary and actually a violation of the rules in the General Knife Discussion. Or, start up a parallel thread in Whine & Cheese.

 

[just10minreader]

The M-Techs are good, light duty knives that are attractive
and fairly well built. The fasteners holding the frame together
are not driven it at weird angles and the blades are easy to
sharpen. They're a good launching pad to better knives.

Hello, what do you call that cruciform looking bolt head (on that mtech in picture)?
and what do you use to tighten it?
Thanks

 

[SIFU1A]

"It appears you haven't been an adult quite long enough to learn a few important things in life. You've been proven wrong. You can't win here."

Proven wrong how - that Mtech aren't good value? Of course they are. I'm 46 and collecting since '95. You've been a member here for a couple of months - who are you exactly.



"It's guys like you who support thievery that creates the need for people to lock their bicycles up and get alarm systems for their houses at night in Asheville. "

What kind of retarded remark is that - how does that make any sense? How do you draw an association like that? You're the kind of guy that I wouldn't want to bend over in front of less you take some pleasure from it.

The question wasn't the ethics of Mtech - there are a million companies with questionable ethics.

Jesus, I could go on for days about business concerns with ethical problems - these are a fact of life in every corner of the world. I guarantee you have availed yourself of products from these companies. Stop being so ignorant and precious.

you collect M-techs?

now THAT would be retarded lol.

really i must be confused, i certainly have never seen an Mtech which was comparable in any way to any decent knife be it BM, spyderco, MT, EKI, heck cold steel is 3X or 4X the knife an Mtech is, so i cant even begin to fathom WTF ya are talking about as far as an mtech being on par with any decent knife.

they sure dont look comparable to me lol.............

its a $10 knife lol, and not even a very good $10 knife.

and yes i have had not one but 2, and didnt like them, & ethics had nothing to do with it, they simply arent very good knives in my experience.

 

[Doug C]

The M-Techs are good, light duty knives that are attractive
and fairly well built. The fasteners holding the frame together
are not driven it at weird angles and the blades are easy to
sharpen. They're a good launching pad to better knives.

lol..

 

[Bastid]

I think everyone has gotten their point made in this thread.

Bottom line of all this is that we have a poster who has no problem supporting unethical businesses and defends it while we have other posters who do not wish to do so.