M4 Military......sadly disappointed. :(

I don't see any issues. People are nitpicking. It will get smoother with use. Relax. Yes, it's an expensive knife. No, nothing in life is perfect.
 
Mine showed up this morning. I was pretty happy with it, despite the long wait and price.

I didn't expect a clip change. It's a Millie and is set up just as I expected it would be. I feel a bit of the grittiness that those who are unhappy mentioned, but in all truth I can still flick it open effortlessly with my thumb and get a good solid lockup. The steel insert, as others mentioned it has a specific purpose which I think it will accomplish well. The looks of it don't detract from the blade in my opinion. My blade came good and sharp and can pop hairs right out of the box.

Overall, as much as I hate to say it, I think those of you complaining are being a bit overly sensitive. The knife was $220, true, but it seems like the extra long wait has convinced some of you that you were waiting for a $500 custom. An extra long wait doesn't change what you were waiting for. I think this knife easily meets expectations for this price range. The most glaring problem, the gritty action, is sure to ease up with use, and if you don't intend to use the knife, then you don't need to worry about it anyway. Also along those lines, if you are NOT going to be using it, I think it's safe to say that it is because you plan on selling it at some point, and given the demand for this blade, I don't think you will have a problem getting your entire investment back and then some.

Bottom line, use it or don't, but enjoy the fact that you have one sweet knife in your hands that a lot of folks would be happy to have a chance at. Ti framelock with good, grippy G-10 on the non lock side and CPM M-4?? Pretty nice combo:thumbup:

Thanks, Roger:thumbup:
 
If this one has an eccentric stop pin you should be able to adjust the lock-up pretty easily. IIRC, all the more recent Millies have this feature.

(Very easy to adjust on my Orange Millie and can make a huge difference in how it locks up.)
 
I have the same issue with the OP on #2 and #4 as well. Very disappointed. I returned mine as well. It's my first time encounter any issue with new spyderco knives. I got my Sage, Bradley and PM, all come perfectly great. Millie m4 is a different story.

Not smooth opening or closing at all. Way to rough. After the blade is closed, it still move slightly, not completely tight in place. I never see such defect with other spydercos.
 
A pretty and smooth large Sebenza will cost you $385 these days.

just saying...
 
shunsui said:
A pretty and smooth large Sebenza will cost you $385 these days.

just saying...
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this is a wise man. you know there's a pretty kool Italian made knife(SR-1) around that $400 price also.

But, you can't really compare apples to oranges. Neither come with m4 steel.

Some people think it's a better steel???
 
I got mine this morning too. I just want to say right off that bat that I think its awesome. No issues with mine whatsoever apart from a tiny bright spot on the G-10, not even sure what it is.

I think part of the problem with this release is the incredibly high expectations people had of it. Then the delays, which raised the fever to an even higher pitch. When it was finally released there was bound to be a reaction of 'is this it?' from some quarters. Time for a reality check!

The Military has always been and will always be a tool knife. It is not a pretty, shiny gewgaw to polish the inside of your pocket with, it is a tool. From what I can see the M4 Millie offers the best possible combination of state of the art locking mechanism, super steel and the ergos and cutting power which has made the design justly famous.

But it aint beautiful.... although beauty, as they say, is in the eye of the beholder. ;)

Put it in your pocket, use it and enjoy it. I guarantee you within a month or two you will pull it out to cut something, look down and smile with great fondness while thinking: geez, what a great knife!

Me, I'm already looking forward to the next one! :p
 
Firebat said:
If this one has an eccentric stop pin you should be able to adjust the lock-up pretty easily. IIRC, all the more recent Millies have this feature.

(Very easy to adjust on my Orange Millie and can make a huge difference in how it locks up.)
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Are you sure? I asked precisely that question of Spyderco W&R earlier this week and was told that neither the pivot (which used to be eccentric) nor the stop pin were eccentric in current production.
 
I think the gentleman has just shot a bullseye. :(


jonnymac44 said:
Mine showed up this morning. I was pretty happy with it, despite the long wait and price.

I didn't expect a clip change. It's a Millie and is set up just as I expected it would be. I feel a bit of the grittiness that those who are unhappy mentioned, but in all truth I can still flick it open effortlessly with my thumb and get a good solid lockup. The steel insert, as others mentioned it has a specific purpose which I think it will accomplish well. The looks of it don't detract from the blade in my opinion. My blade came good and sharp and can pop hairs right out of the box.

Overall, as much as I hate to say it, I think those of you complaining are being a bit overly sensitive. The knife was $220, true, but it seems like the extra long wait has convinced some of you that you were waiting for a $500 custom. An extra long wait doesn't change what you were waiting for. I think this knife easily meets expectations for this price range. The most glaring problem, the gritty action, is sure to ease up with use, and if you don't intend to use the knife, then you don't need to worry about it anyway. Also along those lines, if you are NOT going to be using it, I think it's safe to say that it is because you plan on selling it at some point, and given the demand for this blade, I don't think you will have a problem getting your entire investment back and then some.

Bottom line, use it or don't, but enjoy the fact that you have one sweet knife in your hands that a lot of folks would be happy to have a chance at. Ti framelock with good, grippy G-10 on the non lock side and CPM M-4?? Pretty nice combo:thumbup:

Thanks, Roger:thumbup:
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AF said:
I don't see any issues. People are nitpicking. It will get smoother with use. Relax. Yes, it's an expensive knife. No, nothing in life is perfect.
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jonnymac44 said:
Overall, as much as I hate to say it, I think those of you complaining are being a bit overly sensitive.
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Really!? A wobbly blade striaght out of the box is nitpicking and being overly sensitive?

Sorry.........I think that couldn't be any farther from the truth. Maybe the other things I mentioned are a bit nitpicky....but not the blade wobble!

This knife is not the quality I expect to come out of Golden, Colorado's factory.
 
13ninjas said:
Really!? A wobbly blade striaght out of the box is nitpicking and being overly sensitive?

Sorry.........I think that couldn't be any farther from the truth. Maybe the other things I mentioned are a bit nitpicky....but not the blade wobble!

This knife is not the quality I expect to come out of Golden, Colorado's factory.
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If as you stated the amount of blade play is too slight to be seen (doesn't qualify as "wobbly" in my book) and it might be corrected by the slightest bit of tightening on the pivot screw which you don't mention having attempted, then yes, I feel it might very well qualify as "overly sensitive".
 
Badhammer said:
If as you stated the amount of blade play is too slight to be seen (doesn't qualify as "wobbly" in my book) and it might be corrected by the slightest bit of tightening on the pivot screw which you don't mention having attempted, then yes, I feel it might very well qualify as "overly sensitive".
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I guess I'm with the minority in that I expect to buy something new that doesn't need to be fixed or worked on.

If I liked working on/fixing knives, I'd buy used/beat up ones.
 
13ninjas said:
I guess I'm with the minority in that I expect to buy something new that doesn't need to be fixed or worked on.

If I liked working on/fixing knives, I'd buy used/beat up ones.
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I'd hardly consider tightening a pivot screw as "working" on a knife any more than I would sharpening one but maybe that's just me. The question is have you tried tightening the pivot?


The fact is that nothing is perfect and anyone can find issue with anything if they want to. Out of the 100 + knives in my collection from my Sebenza on down I can and have found something that was not "perfect" on each and every one of them.

Now your experience may be that every knife you own or have owned was "perfect" in every conceivable aspect and if so I applaud your good luck and would therefore no longer regard anything you've stated as being "overly sensitive". That just seems unlikely.
 
I think your right to expect a higher quality and precision on your knife. Sounds like a piece of shit! You can send it to me and I will dispose of it properly.

I will do this for you, because you are my friend, free of charge and even cover the shipping if you ask nicely.
 
Noone ever said this was anything other than a special sprint run. why would the clip be different? no other sprints have different clips.

I personally think the lock bar is genius. if it wears out, you replace it! if your detent ball wears out, you can replace that too! and it also keeps you from over-extending the lock bar, brilliant! aesthetics are a personal preference, but in a tool, it's not about looks, it's about function.

edge grind... well these are hand done, so it can be hit or miss on production knives, and it always sucks to get a funky one, so I feel you there. but mine is the same, the tip is a bit more obtuse, no worries here though, it cuts great!

as for the blade movement, it sounds like you just need to tighten the pivot a tiny bit, simple.

rough opening and closing? mine was that way too, as were my other millies. Mine is all broken in now though, and is super smooth, so maybe you just need to keep cycling it. I usually cycle it throughout the day, clean and oil the pivot that night, and repeat until its smooth.
 
Badhammer said:
I'd hardly consider tightening a pivot screw as "working" on a knife any more than I would sharpening one but maybe that's just me. The question is have you tried tightening the pivot?


The fact is that nothing is perfect and anyone can find issue with anything if they want to. Out of the 100 + knives in my collection from my Sebenza on down I can and have found something that was not "perfect" on each and every one of them.

Now your experience may be that every knife you own or have owned was "perfect" in every conceivable aspect and if so I applaud your good luck and would therefore no longer regard anything you've stated as being "overly sensitive". That just seems unlikely.
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Well, I don't expect to have to sharpen a brand new Spyderco either......but I guess I'm crazy for that comment too.....I shouldn't have to adjust or sharpen any new knife before using it.

I have owned around 100 Spyderco's in my day. I have NEVER had to adjust any of the knives that came to me NIB. Was I just lucky? I hope not. I thought they made high quality knives for the price and that is why I purchased them.

I also own several higher end custom knives that I won't put into the equation.......except to reply to your comment, because they are perfect and I can find NO "issues" with them. Actually, I have several Spyderco's that I consider perfect with no "issues". Sounds like you are unlucky with your blade purchases. :confused:

And no, I haven't adjusted the pivot...........because I shouldn't have to. Not like that would fix it anyway. It is tight as dicks hatband and gritty to open already.....if I tighten it, it will be harder to open and even less smooth (if that is possible).

Seems like you just want to argue with me or defend Spyderco for whatever reason........so I'll just have to agree to disagree with you.
 
ctk123 said:
Noone ever said this was anything other than a special sprint run. why would the clip be different? no other sprints have different clips.

I personally think the lock bar is genius. if it wears out, you replace it! if your detent ball wears out, you can replace that too! and it also keeps you from over-extending the lock bar, brilliant! aesthetics are a personal preference, but in a tool, it's not about looks, it's about function.

edge grind... well these are hand done, so it can be hit or miss on production knives, and it always sucks to get a funky one, so I feel you there. but mine is the same, the tip is a bit more obtuse, no worries here though, it cuts great!

as for the blade movement, it sounds like you just need to tighten the pivot a tiny bit, simple.

rough opening and closing? mine was that way too, as were my other millies. Mine is all broken in now though, and is super smooth, so maybe you just need to keep cycling it. I usually cycle it throughout the day, clean and oil the pivot that night, and repeat until its smooth.
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I know I was dreming on the clip thing. And functionality is way more important than looks, but when a knife looks nice it is a plus.

Ok....ok......I've had several people say to tighten the pivot.......I guess I could try it when I get home......did anyone else have to tighten theirs?

Will that void the Spyderco warranty? I know they frown upon taking them apart, so just asking.
 
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