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Mike Kerins said:
At the recent 20 year collectors club event, Buck indicated that they intend to bring the 300 series back to the USA for domestic production since they have recently purchased automated machinery that will allow them to make them competively right here at home. :thumbup:
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In addition to the automation issue, everything that I have read/seen indicates that inflation in China is currently being held in check by the government, and that prices will likely rise dramatically as soon as the olympics are over. That, coupled with the increase in prices for shipping back to the U.S., would most likely have resulted in a price increase for this series in any case. I'm all for having Buck being made in the U.S.A. by whatever means available.
 
Tin Sue said:
In addition to the automation issue, everything that I have read/seen indicates that inflation in China is currently being held in check by the government, and that prices will likely rise dramatically as soon as the olympics are over. That, coupled with the increase in prices for shipping back to the U.S., would most likely have resulted in a price increase for this series in any case. I'm all for having Buck being made in the U.S.A. by whatever means available.
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How interesting guys!!! So in some number of years, my china stamped 373 might be collectible. How cool, now if I can just get it back from brother... nah...:D
 
jonnyfgroove said:
That's awesome news about bringing production back to the US.:thumbup::thumbup:

What steel is the 373 Trio in? I picked one up recently and the package says 440c. The sticker on the package says 6/17/08 and the blade itself has the up arrow for 2008. The website says 420hc, which is what I thought it was. :confused:
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Some of the older ones were 440C. I bought roughly 6 or 8 china mantis' at K Mart one time. All said 420hc but one, and it said 440c. I kept the 440c for my 12 year old daughter and gave the rest as gifts.
 
Tin Sue said:
I'm all for having Buck being made in the U.S.A. by whatever means available.
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This may be the most significant reason to manufacture Bucks in the US. It doesn't take much digging to find that American knife nuts, a very large segment of Buck's market, are largely nationalistic purchasers.

That being said, I wonder what the new US made line will cost in comparison to the current 30x line? It seems to me the most significant difference between the two are the scale materials. This development seems pretty peculiar to me.
 
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I have stated before, I would pay twice the price for a *USA* Buck than an import. Tell the people that are buying the machines to get a program for Canoe and Muskrat models also. From what I've seen of machinery nowadays, you just put a piece of steel in it and pull out a blade that is ready for assembly.
 
Silverdagger said:
Mike, I'm almost certain you know this and are just being nice, but just in case, for future reference; to instruct or teach, the instructee or student must have a certain level of cognitive ability to be a recipient of such a lesson as the one you put forth. Otherwise, you are just wasting your time.
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Hmmm...he won't know that his head has been cut off until he nods. :thumbup::)
 
Tin Sue said:
In addition to the automation issue, everything that I have read/seen indicates that inflation in China is currently being held in check by the government, and that prices will likely rise dramatically as soon as the olympics are over. That, coupled with the increase in prices for shipping back to the U.S., would most likely have resulted in a price increase for this series in any case. I'm all for having Buck being made in the U.S.A. by whatever means available.
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Another issue is likely the laughable value of the U.S. dollar now. The old greenback just doesn't go as far abroad as it used it. As an American living I Europe, I can tell you it's NOT EVEN CLOSE. At any rate, like Tin Sue, I feel that anything that results in Buck making their knives at home is a good thing.

And regarding the possibility of pickup up a wood handled, U.S.-made 303 stockman? :) :D :thumbup: :eek: What else can I say!? ;)
 
Thank you Mike Kerins and Silverdagger for the info. You are one cool dad Silverdagger.:) To the OP, please forgive me for my hijack.:o

I have to say I love this little knife, and I will love it even more when I can buy a USA made model (with the beautiful wood scales). No complaints about the quality of this outsourced one though, the fit and finish is excellent.
 
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matt321 said:
Not sure if this adds much to the thread, but I found it interesting:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=572208
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i respectfully beg to disagree with the information in the link matt supplied..
there are two sections of US fed law :eek:
one dealing only with the stamping of source of the item..
the other dealing only with the use of USA being on a item..
you have to read both completely to understand..
having been in heated discussion in the past on this i will not comment further
but will suggest any wanting to know badly enough can find it by googleing it.
 
Is there a date when they intend to start up the manufacture of the knives here in the USA? I like to use the Buck Mini Trapper for my knives and I have wanted to find a similar style made here. It would be awesome to get this knife made here....
 
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Redrummd said:
Is there a date when they intend to start up the manufacture of the knives here in the USA? ....
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while at post falls i spoke with David who is the VP of marketing and this subject come up along with other things.
He said that it was in the works to see if they could bring all of the Buck Knives Brand production back the USA.
he did not give a time line as this was but part of a conversation of some of the good changes to be up and coming at Buck and that another is the possibility of additions to the custom shop offerings.
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He did ask me if i was one of the tar and feather advocates ... :rolleyes:
 
Mike Kerins said:
Somebody has to run the machine Rocinante. Better we have one person here running the machine then not. Automation has been occurring since the start of the industrial revolution. Better that than just throw our hands up in the air and let all the manufacturing go overseas. :rolleyes:
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The point is, you have one person running a machine and twenty laid off. When your eyes stop rolling, maybe you'll see the real interesting side of this issue, that being:

Some people here rant and rave and foam at the mouth when a bunch of jobs gets farmed out to people of another race who work cheap.......yet they applaud when those same jobs are farmed out to a machine.

They ignore the fact that people have still lost their jobs.

That inconsistency reveals the real reason for their discomfort.
 
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I prefer my knives to be made in America by Americans. I don't care what race they are. I don't buy Chinese knives because they are made in China not because they are made by someone of another race.
 
morestag said:
I prefer my knives to be made in America by Americans. I don't care what race they are. I don't buy Chinese knives because they are made in China not because they are made by someone of another race.
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So, you're a bigot instead of a racist. Good on you! ;)
 
shecky said:
So, you're a bigot instead of a racist. Good on you! ;)
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Shecky you need to watch the name calling. Nothing I said in my post was bigoted. If you want to call me names then you should at least learn what the word means. I don't think the mods really go for people calling someone a bigot for no reason. I guess we will find out.
 
Bear Claw Chris Lappe said:
No, he is a Nationalist,
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"Nationalist", with a capital "N"! Is that an improvement?

Bear Claw Chris Lappe said:
which is a far cry from being a bigot or a racist.
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Well, to be precise, not buying Chinese products because they're made in China can be pretty bigoted. As is buying American products because they're made by Americans.

morestag said:
Shecky you need to watch the name calling. Nothing I said in my post was bigoted. If you want to call me names then you should at least learn what the word means. I don't think the mods really go for people calling someone a bigot for no reason. I guess we will find out.
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I think you know perfectly well what it means to be "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ".

Of course, pointing out that you are not a bigot by race, but by nationality, is a humorous clarification, as one would normally indicate by the use of a ";)". Then again, I suppose there is no banter about knives unless it is deadly serious.
 
I mentioned those who go ballistic when a knife is made by Chinese and send up rockets of celebration when it's made by a machine instead.

The impact on jobs is virtually the same, the difference is the "Chinese" factor.

I don't think we need to argue about semantics.

We all know the people I'm talking about and we've all seen their posts.

And we all know what they are.
 
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