MagnaMax hitting the market

Blue Steel, Le Tigre, Magnum?

I actually like Magnacut pretty well. I can get along just fine with whatever steel, but I do like my SHF in it. I think they could have gone thinner with the edge, but that's not really their thing.
 
Crag the Brewer said:
Stainless isn't that important to Me....Almost stainless is good enough.
What I'm excited about is this type of steel (k390, 10v, or Magnamax) being made in readily available sizes and quanities, at an affordable price.....

I can't wait till the steel industry to "get normal" back again
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Big fan of D2 myself. Not a "super steel", but a very good one for most people and uses in the mainstream of knife use.
 
Sid Post said:
Big fan of D2 myself. Not a "super steel", but a very good one for most people and uses in the mainstream of knife use.
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I almost love all steels....
Currently, my favorite super steel has been cruwear.....just what I like, what I'm used to.

But, Personally, one of my most used EDC is an ingot D2 knife....I agree it just cuts and cuts. I only have a handful of treated blanks left.

I will be making knives out of this upcoming steel from Larrin, though.....it looks pretty sweet! I'm looking forward to it.
 
Larrin said:
knifesteelnerds.com

MagnaMax Is Here: The Next Evolution in Knife Steel - Knife Steel Nerds

MagnaMax is the next evolution in knife steel, offering significantly higher edge retention than MagnaCut. I tested all its properties.
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You can't just appeal to authority, do your own research...











OH WAIT.
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I feel like the real trick is just convincing the masses that you have a new super steel and then getting the manufacturers to adopt it. 🤣

Look at magnacut, now it's a great balanced steel, but for folders, very few users are chipping/breaking their blades/edges. Yet somehow the entire market is convinced that Magnacut is the next supersteel with god like properties. When it's edge retention at the hardness most companies are using is basically in the s35 to s45 range and nothing special. So unless you are really abusing your knives or work in a salt environment, for most users, Magnacut brings almost nothing to the table that s30-s45 doesn't when it comes to cutting performance. It can't even come close to comparing to s90v, 20cv, 204p. The toughness only matters if you're already chipping out your current blade/geometry. The vast majority of users, are going to see almost zero cutting improvement going from s30/35/45 to Magnacut. Now of course you could make a case that you can thin down the edge on magnacut with it's extra toughness, and increase cutting performance which is totally true, but I've yet to see any of the manufactures do this, so unless you are going to re-profile the blade it's not a feature.

Don't get me wrong it's a great steel, and I'd happily steer someone to it over s30v at similar prices, but I really feel like the folder world has gotten far too obsessed with toughness as opposed to actual cutting performance the last decade. It's like we're going back to the days of hammering knives through car doors.
 
ToddM said:
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Don't get me wrong it's a great steel, and I'd happily steer someone to it over s30v at similar prices, but I really feel like the folder world has gotten far too obsessed with toughness as opposed to actual cutting performance the last decade. It's like we're going back to the days of hammering knives through car doors.
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Your reasoning is why I stick to D2 unless there is some special use case for a knife. I can get really good folders, slip joints, and some fixed blades in D2 for ~$50. Magnacut, Cruewear, M390, ... not really an option.

Yesterday, I picked up a German-made Boker Stockman 4" in D2 for <$50. If I could do that in another improved stainless, then I would consider it. Realistically, for this knife, any improvement over D-2 would be lost in the background "noise" of real-world use.
 
I can't say I'm in a hurry to find it about this steel. I've recently started revisiting 440C and find it to be just as good as all the new supersteels. Yeah yeah it's not AS GOOD per the charts and testing but it's very very good when the heat treat is done well.
My very favorite steel is 420 HC done best by Buck knives.
You'll find it to be one of the toughest steels out there and edge retention is JUST FINE...
Please know that I've owned and still own all of the new ones and thought I was bettering my knives and experience with them by spending way to much money for better. At the end of the day I already had all I needed.
 
Smarter people than me have been saying for a loong time that geometry and heat treat are most important to a knife design. With that said, with two identical knives, one with a "supersteel" and one with an old favorite, you will see the difference. It is real and quantifiable. It's also true that many people overestimate what they actually need in their steel and likely would be fine with an older steel.

As BBB / DeadboxHero DeadboxHero says "Fear no Steel".
 
SharpBits said:
Smarter people than me have been saying for a loong time that geometry and heat treat are most important to a knife design. With that said, with two identical knives, one with a "supersteel" and one with an old favorite, you will see the difference. It is real and quantifiable. It's also true that many people overestimate what they actually need in their steel and likely would be fine with an older steel.

As BBB / DeadboxHero DeadboxHero says "Fear no Steel".
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My 1095 Newt Livesay of Wicked Knives really knew how to heat treat 1095. The ones I have used extensively have had very few rust issues and kept a great edge for a very long time.

I even found one at the bottom of the toolbox in my pickup, where it had been rained on for ~3 years, that showed only superficial rust. To say I was shocked is an understatement! The wrenches and ratchets were in terrible shape, but the knife only needed a minor tune-up.
 
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