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Mailman brought me a haul of new Condors - a few minor QC issues.

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Since photos of the knives and their dimensions, etc. have already been posted, I'm not going to do that. Just some photos of quality control positives and negatives.

Everything came very well packaged. I don't have photos of it, but each knife came in a nice box with a silica pack. Every blade was tightly wrapped in a slightly waxy, white tissue type paper and then the knife was put in a plastic sheath type bag. A lot of car was taken in packing them. However, as you will see later, one thing that is missing that should probably be there, is a coating of oil.

(Left to right: Rodan, Nessmuk, 4 inch Bushcraft, Bushlore, Golok)
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My haul. I ordered from a online merchant I've never used before (Campsmarter.com). They were actually very good at keeping me up to date on my order and with emails. However, I noticed recently that all my knives were in stock except the Golok, which said it would not be in stock until October. I emailed and asked if they would send the ones that were in stock and send the Golok when it came in. They said they would and would not charge a separate shipping charge when it did. I was surprised to find the entire order arrived a couple days later. The total cost of all with shipping was $140.63. I feel this is pretty darned good for so many knives.

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The sheaths are pretty high quality for the cost and, although each knife feels very utilitarian, they feel good in the hand and all fittings were good and tight. None of the blades were shaving sharp, however 20 strops or so on leather with some green compound was all it took for the Bushlore to shave and slice a piece of paper as though it were going through air. The Golok was a little sharper than the rest and I was able to do some chopping and cutting with it briefly, but it still needs a little touch up.

However, even though inside each box is a tag that shows which inspector was responsible for the QC of each knife, these issues slipped through.

Bushcraft knife

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Rodan knife

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Now, these are very, very inexpensive knives. Even with these issues, I think they are still a great bargain. The black coating is very thin, and truth be told, I'm going to remove it anyway and it would come off with heavy use. Other than the blade rust, the grind on the Bushcraft is uneven and, as you can see, it got a little too hot on the grind. Condor is obviously going to a lot of trouble to show that they are trying to control quality, so I feel at least a couple of these things should have been caught prior to packaging if they are going to project that image. Each knife is also packed with a silica pack. Maybe this is cheaper than a coating of oil to prevent rusting. I'm sure it is faster and easier to just drop a silica pack in the box, but...

I think my favorite is going to be the Bushlore.
 
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Nice set of knives you have there! Color me jealous. My feelings on the new Condors, after giving them a good look-see at Blade, is that they are basically "kit knives". They're made with quality materials, but aren't finished out completely. A little bit of elbow grease will get any one of those knives into much slicker, nicer condition. Some carving and sanding on the wooden handles is definitely in order. Personally, I would strip the painted blades (except for the Golok) and finish them out myself. If you polish the blades up to a fine finish, they will look nicer, and resist corrosion better. Eventually they should develop a nice patina and look great.

Those are some nice users, for sure.
 
A little bit of elbow grease will get any one of those knives into much slicker, nicer condition. Some carving and sanding on the wooden handles is definitely in order. Personally, I would strip the painted blades (except for the Golok) and finish them out myself. If you polish the blades up to a fine finish, they will look nicer, and resist corrosion better. Eventually they should develop a nice patina and look great.

Yep, my thinking exactly. I don't care for coated blades anyway. Like I said, still a great value and pretty amazing you get what you do for such little money, IMO.
 
Does the tang on the golok go all the way to the lanyard hole?? I can't tell by the pics.
 
How comfortable is the Rodan??
It looks slippery, but it is big and sort of grippy. I have large, but not huge hands and if feels comfortable, but I can't gauge it much until I use it some. It definitely feels like it would absorb shock. It is hard, but softer than the Grivory that Beckers use.


Does the tang on the golok go all the way to the lanyard hole?? I can't tell by the pics.

No.

Nice score, even with the "issues". I hope some sharpening and a coat of your favorite oil or wax to keep the rust away.

I'm sure it will. Don't get me wrong, rust doesn't bother me a lot, as long as I get to be the one to let it rust (patina) through use. :D It's just that Condor goes through all these efforts to show quality control, but this makes it appear as though it is not working. I mean, I've never bought any production knife, at any cost, that had all these obvious signs of attempting to confirm QC. Maybe I'm being overly critical, I don't know, but if I were paying someone to sit on a line carefully wrapping, packaging and writing my QC info and initials on a tag for the box, they should be doing it.
 
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Maybe I'm being overly critical, I don't know, but if I were paying someone to sit on a line carefully wrapping, packaging and writing my QC info and initials on a tag for the box, they should be doing it.

You're only seeing the knives that PASSED QC. You should see the ones that didn't make the cut! :D

It may be that the QC standards that they are shooting for are lower than what you or I have come to expect. They may be inspecting to make sure that the knife will indeed hold up under use, and do the job it is intended to do. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're inspecting for aesthetics.
 
The rust wouldn't bother me, but I would probably send back the bushcraft. Getting hot during grinding could really affect the performance of that blade.

I am waiting for the websites I have experience with to get the Rodan, so I can order one.
 
You're only seeing the knives that PASSED QC. You should see the ones that didn't make the cut! :D

It may be that the QC standards that they are shooting for are lower than what you or I have come to expect. They may be inspecting to make sure that the knife will indeed hold up under use, and do the job it is intended to do. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're inspecting for aesthetics.

I think overheating a grind applies to that though, but I don't think its real bad here in this case. Like I say, rust is not a big issue to me. I'm not going to send it back. I don't think, given the cost of the knife, it is worth it and I'm willing to gamble it won't affect it's use since it is so minor on this particular knife.
 
I think overheating a grind applies to that though, but I don't think its real bad here in this case. Like I say, rust is not a big issue to me. I'm not going to send it back. I don't think, given the cost of the knife, it is worth it and I'm willing to gamble it won't affect it's use since it is so minor on this particular knife.


The overheated grind would concern me too, but that discoloration might have come from the grind before heat-treat. Most makers do the primary grind before heat treat, when the steel is still soft. And then do the final sharpening after the blade has been hardened and tempered.Condor may have decided not to bother with polishing off the discoloration. These knives have convex edges, so there is no secondary bevel- the final sharpening is probably done on a buffing wheel loaded with compound. It would be interesting to test the section of the blade that is discolored and see if it is any harder than the rest.

I could be wrong though.
 
The overheated grind would concern me too, but that discoloration might have come from the grind before heat-treat. Most makers do the primary grind before heat treat, when the steel is still soft. And then do the final sharpening after the blade has been hardened and tempered.Condor may have decided not to bother with polishing off the discoloration. These knives have convex edges, so there is no secondary bevel- the final sharpening is probably done on a buffing wheel loaded with compound. It would be interesting to test the section of the blade that is discolored and see if it is any harder than the rest.

I could be wrong though.

Maybe. But, none of the other blades show the same sign. IMO the best way to find out with a knife this inexpensive is to just use it.
 
Maybe. But, none of the other blades show the same sign. IMO the best way to find out with a knife this inexpensive is to just use it.

Could've been a new guy on the grinder. I agree with you, just use it and see how it holds up. I would be tempted to give the tip a workout first against some hard wood. If it holds up to that, it's probably fine. The discoloration should polish off, it's just surface oxidation.
 
This is very …….surprising…. ALL of these issues will be dealt with pronto. I can’t believe you got shipped rusty knives. Please look for a private message soon to rectify this issue.

Joe
 
Ejes...Condor is concerned and will be replacing your defective products pronto. I'll be sending you a PM with contact info. Needles to say, Condor stands behind their product.

-Joe
 
Maybe. But, none of the other blades show the same sign. IMO the best way to find out with a knife this inexpensive is to just use it.

I imagine that you can feel my envy even through the internet; it's that powerful. Nice score, ejes! Please tell us that you're going to do some kind of review — even a short one — on each of your new blades as you go along. A lot of us have been waiting to find out about the new Condor blades for awhile.

Did I mention the envy thing, and that it's a nice score?
 
Gee, that never happened to any of my old Condors. But then, they were in the much maligned 420HC Stainless! I like carbon steel fine, but it does rust. I bet they were all nice and shiny when they left the factory and got exposed to salt air and moisture along the way. Looks like Condor will need to put some oil on them prior to shipping. The new carbon steel ones will take and hold an edge better, but the 420HC blades are plenty tough and better for use in wet areas. My Inca Knives in 420HC have been used a lot in my yard. I just leave them in the tool box on the back of my lawn tractor and they are fine. The carbon steel machetes stored there all rusted some.
 
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