Major Life Changes...

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Aardvark said:
Premature attachment (don't go there) is worse than sleeping around, IMO.

Funny, I can't imagine myself having an attachment to anyone for a LONG time. I'm done with that. I'm going to embrace being alone. I want to get myself into a position where I feel totally secure on my own. I'm sure that there won't be a problem with accomplishing this right now. It's just that I have to get myself to the point where I actually know it for myself. Right now, it's the great unknown and a bunch of speculation. I'm very security oriented.
 
jsmatos said:
"I've been working up the nerve to talk to you all night, come out back with me so I can talk to you. I won't hurt you, I promise."
I may laugh all night at that line! :D :D :D

You know you've got enough friends here not to have to go out back with a seriously over-confident drunk. :p

I gotta ask my sister what her preferred response to that would have been.
 
Nothing quite like putting something down in the house, and KNOWING it's going to be in the same place until YOU move it. A wise old publisher told me that once. I didn't realize at the time how true it was.

I'm flying to Boston in the morning. Feel free to meet me. No committments. I'll buy the baby rabbits.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I may laugh all night at that line! :D :D :D

You know you've got enough friends here not to have to go out back with a seriously over-confident drunk. :p

I gotta ask my sister what her preferred response to that would have been.

Esav, some of these guys were absolutely hilarious. :D I just laughed and told him he picked the wrong woman to make that kind of request. I wasn't going anywhere with him. :rolleyes: :D

The wrestlers were pretty funny too. Those guys looked so sad, I felt like I'd have to defend them if anything serious went down. :D
 
I removed The Tourist's post and the repleis it received and started a new one in W&C for those who wish to express their displeasure with his return. Please keep the current thread on topic and enjoy.
 
So Jen, what did you do during the outage?
Turning heads?
Breaking hearts?
Finding specimens of raw masculinity?

Surely you can do all that in real life, too. ;)
 
johnniet said:
So Jen, what did you do during the outage?
Turning heads?
Breaking hearts?
Finding specimens of raw masculinity?

Surely you can do all that in real life, too. ;)

Hello John,

I wish I could say that I was doing all that you said. Unfortunately, this was a very difficult week for me. After a great deal of negotiation, I will sign the settlement papers either tonight or tomorrow morning. It's still ending amicably, but it doesn't seem to make it any less painful. It will go in front of a judge on Friday where his honor is expected to give it his blessing. Viola, nine years will end in a short five minute hearing.

The loan is taking longer than I hoped. I know that I will find happiness once again when this chapter of my life is finally closed, but it's hard to envision it right now. I really wish I could be more upbeat, but I'm not going to lie.

Oh, by the way, men are the plague. No offense. ;) :p :)
 
Sorry to hear about your heartache, Jennifer. Hopefully, after it is all said and done on Friday, you can go forward and heal. I think it's the interim time until it's all over that is the worst.

PS - hope the pandas on the webcam at the San Diego Zoo can help you out when you are feeling down right now...

My wife and I wish you the best of luck!

Sincerely,

Arik and Gretchen
 
Deadhead Archer said:
Sorry to hear about your heartache, Jennifer. Hopefully, after it is all said and done on Friday, you can go forward and heal. I think it's the interim time until it's all over that is the worst.

PS - hope the pandas on the webcam at the San Diego Zoo can help you out when you are feeling down right now...

My wife and I wish you the best of luck!

Sincerely,

Arik and Gretchen

Thank you both. That was really thoughtful. Especially the part where you reminded me of the panda cam. :)
 
Jen,

I'm sorry if my teasing was badly timed. But I am glad to see you still have your sass and sense of humor, even as you go through this. They do help, even if you feel pretty lousy most of the time.

Pandas sounds like fun. :)
 
John,

johnniet said:
None taken; we all know that's the mind-warping, gut-wrenching agony speaking. :(

I was just joking with you. You are right though, my humor is a bit warped lately. You'd probably be shocked... :p :D

It's been a really rough week. I did have an interesting client come in today. She is a really beautiful 81 year old woman. She was hysterical. Out of nowhere she said something like, "I was married 41 years, but I must admit, I do LOVE being single. I don't have to cook or clean unless I want to. I can come and go on a moments notice. I'm in charge. I'm my own person." She went on to say, "Don't get me wrong, I love men. I just don't want any around anymore." She was an inspiration. (I hadn't mentioned anything to her about my personal life.)

Isn't it too bad that we don't recover completely within weeks after life's most shattering experiences?

I think I'll recover a lot faster in my new place. Right now I have everything coming at me from different directions. I'm trying to close on the condo by the 26th and I'm having to jump through all kinds of insane hoops (condo contracts are non-negotiable and crafted for the builder's benefit), negotiating the settlement was emotional (I signed it this morning), and on top of that my boss is changing our entire intake system and introducing all new estate planning documents that we need to implement. The docs are wonderful but much more sophisticated and difficult to tailor to a client's individual circumstances. The intake leaves him with first contact with the clients and then sending us the work. I picked this practice area because of the connection it gives me with my clients. My clients really love me too (you'd be surprised ;) ). That makes me feel really good about my practice. I love meeting with people and helping them to work through their problems. I really care about them. Now, I just meet with them at the signing. Half the time, he doesn't even take good notes, so I spend that time making changes to the docs. Poor timing for me. :(

I'm sorry if my teasing was poorly timed. But I am glad to see that you haven't lost your sass or sense of humor. ;) They will help a lot, even though you feel lousy for now.

I didn't think anything was wrong with what you said. "Men are the plague." That was my reaction to my law school friend who reviewed my settlement papers (my judgement was too clouded) when she insinuated that she was going to play cupid for me.
 
DGG said:
Jen -

This sounds like alot whining and too much talking to me. I can't believe you were blind-sided by this. You really truly knew it was coming. Just move on. Nobody likes to be dumped on with someone else's problems. We have enough of our own to take care of.

Got any knives you want to sell?


U suck. :grumpy:

Jennifer -- my prayers are with you. You tell whomever you want about the divorce, local or otherwise. You don't have to kowtow to him in any way.
 
Jen,

it sounds like you got to quote me while I was still editing. Of course, you took everything the right way anyway. :)

jsmatos said:
my humor is a bit warped lately. You'd probably be shocked... :p :D

"Shocked, shocked!"

Out of nowhere she said something like, "I was married 41 years, but I must admit, I do LOVE being single. I don't have to cook or clean unless I want to. I can come and go on a moments notice. I'm in charge. I'm my own person."

There are a LOT of things that are simpler about being single. I don't usually contemplate the advantages. but truthfully, those are some of the reasons why I'm still in that state. I just don't see myself adding the "married" complications until other issues in my life are clarified.

Thanks for all the information about condos by the way.

I picked this practice area because of the connection it gives me with my clients. My clients really love me too (you'd be surprised ;) ).

No. I am not the slightest bit surprised. :)

"Men are the plague." That was my reaction to my law school friend who reviewed my settlement papers (my judgement was too clouded) when she insinuated that she was going to play cupid for me.

It's pretty funny in context actually. :D
See if she will take a raincheck for six months. You need a chance to enjoy the single life.
 
johnniet said:
There are a LOT of things that are simpler about being single. I don't usually contemplate the advantages. but truthfully, those are some of the reasons why I'm still in that state. I just don't see myself adding the "married" complications until other issues in my life are clarified.

And I just thought that you were really picky... :p :D

It's pretty funny in context actually. :D
See if she will take a raincheck for six months. You need a chance to enjoy the single life.

I thought it was funny too. But I am a bit warped.

Nah, I've been on one blind date in my life. That's enough for the rest of my life. :D Six months? Is that the penance these days? I was never a big dater when I was single the first time around. I'm a high-screen, low-volume kind of gal. I'm gonna be alone for a loooonnngg time. ;) :D

Edited to add: I'm really pushing for a closing on the 26th. I don't think I can be any more annoying, but I can try. ;)
 
Hey Jen, don't be too closed to the idea of the blind date. My wife was a blind date... her good friend was dating my step-brother, and they decided it was time for us to meet. Well, here we are 12 years later, married for 9 yrs, and two wonderful (most of the time) daughters. We didn't have immediate sparks on that first date, but she had enough pluses on my "list" to warrant a second date. She still claims I "settled" for her, but I disagree.:D
 
Mongo said:
Hey Jen, don't be too closed to the idea of the blind date. My wife was a blind date... her good friend was dating my step-brother, and they decided it was time for us to meet. Well, here we are 12 years later, married for 9 yrs, and two wonderful (most of the time) daughters. We didn't have immediate sparks on that first date, but she had enough pluses on my "list" to warrant a second date. She still claims I "settled" for her, but I disagree.:D

Very sweet. :)

I really can't get my head around dating a total stranger. There has to be an escape hatch. :D

Funny you should mention lists. I was talking to my friend the other day about lists. She said something like, "You should try not to develop a list." I replied, "Okay, so you have to be attracted to him right." She answered, "Yeah, I would NEVER date a man I don't find attractive." Me- "What about career? Does he have to have a good career?" Her- "Of course, I don't want a dead beat." Me- "What about kids? Would you date someone with kids?" Her- "NO, I would never date a guy with kids." Me- "But, you have kids." :confused: Her- "I don't want the Brady bunch." Me- "I thought you didn't have a list." Her- "Everyone has a list." :D
 
Jen,

Sorry to hear about everything that transpired. I recently had a wonderful coworker go through a divorce, and I saw the pain it can inflict. She said that it seemed to come in "waves".

We will be praying for you as you start your new life. If anyone can start over, you can. Judging by your posts, you seem to be one of the pluckiest, intelligent, and most determined people I've encountered in a long time. Hang in there, take it one day at a time, and don't let the losers get you down (e.g., DGG).

- Mark
 
Mark J said:
Jen,

Sorry to hear about everything that transpired. I recently had a wonderful coworker go through a divorce, and I saw the pain it can inflict. She said that it seemed to come in "waves".

We will be praying for you as you start your new life. If anyone can start over, you can. Judging by your posts, you seem to be one of the pluckiest, intelligent, and most determined people I've encountered in a long time. Hang in there, take it one day at a time, and don't let the losers get you down (e.g., DGG).

- Mark

Thanks Mark. That was a great compliment. :)
 
To the original post:

You know, I may come off as insulting, but its not my intention.

Two things interested me about your post in specific.

#1

The way when something like this happens, people will get the mentality that everything was for nothing, it was all worthless, or 9 years of love and dedication down the drain. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but going through a 9 year relationship is an experience that cannot possibly be taken away by a divorce. Yes, things have taken an unexpected turn, but does that really invalidate everything you've done? Maybe he doesn't give it the appreciation he should, and from the sounds of it that's probably how it is. That doesn't change the fact that all the things you've done have given you oppurtunities to grow as a person, to strengthen your character and to do things you've never done before. When people consider a process worthless due to the result, it often baffles me. I think that's the persont hemselves throwing those 9 years away. When you look back and see all that you went through, I don't see how you coul dpossibly deem such a thing worthless (Maybe I'm just pissing about on your phrasing here, you very wel could not mean this literally. If so ignore all this I suppose). I can look back on things I consider my lowpoints in life and find much good in them. An example is how I've come to the conclusion that I do not love any of my immediate family. It's really made me struggle to want to be kind to them at times. I don't have that unconditional desire to help them out like a lot of people do. It's really opened my eyes to all the things they have done for me and all the good that is in them, because due to my lack of wanting to help them, I've mentally searched out reasons to make such feelings unjustified, which they are. Or when I went to DH for a month of my summer after my freshman year...I met a lot of people that had very little hope in life and it was a stark contrast between them and myself. I was overflowing with faith in my abilities, and still am, and many of these people wanted nothing more than to move out, get a GED and never be heard from again.

#2

The whole paragraph on not being able to have this mans child, then placing that events responsibility in the hands of God. I'm not going to sit here and question the fact that you believe in something I don't (Which alone shows that you have a certain understanding I currently do not have) but the fact that you'd attribute such an occurance to God it what interests me. This is a characteristic I see a lot in religious folk. Their own ignorance prevents them from seeing the positivity in a situation they disagree with (Smething we're all guilty of), then after the fact when they can look back and see that positivity, they thank God for it. What role did God play in any of this? What is there to suggest that life simply did not play itself out, that while God may have planted the seeds for everything that is, things are simply following its due course? I don't know, but it seems like religious folk are too quick to attribute things they did not initially see to the benevolence of an omnipotent creator.

I'm sorry if none of this is coherant, this is my first time consuming liquor. :o

Again, I tell you these things not to insult you. I know you're going through something I've never experienced and I cannot fully say what it is you feel for the simple fact that all of us are unique in how we perceive our reality. I was just worried that you may not be as open to the benefits of a seemingly negative situation, but I could be completely wrong. Best of luck to yourself and whatever path you decide to take in life, may you find happiness along with the rest of us here at BF. :)
 
Vivi said:
I'm sorry if no of this is coherant, this is my first time consuming liquor.

Vivi--
stick to your usual drug of choice.

Jennifer, you post about lists made me laugh. Of course we all have lists, we just don't necessarily formulate them. And sometimes we don't even follow them.:D
 
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