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Most folks here on BFs do not understand what Minimum ADVERTISED Pricing means;

Here you go;

How Minimum Advertised Pricing Impacts Your Retail or Online Store’s Marketing Efforts

By Caron_Beesley, Contributor
Published: March 6, 2013
Updated: March 6, 2013
If you run an online or retail business, did you know that you might be prohibited from advertising a manufacturer’s products below a certain minimum price?

Minimum advertised pricing (MAP) policies are particularly critical to manufacturers who sell their products for online resale, given the ease at which consumers can now conduct online and mobile price comparisons. MAP policies are also established to help small businesses compete and sell on service and value, rather than entering into a price war with cost-cutting big box stores.

But how legally enforceable are these minimum advertised pricing policies and, as a small business owner, is there a way to get around them in your sales and marketing practices?

The Truth About Minimum Advertised Pricing

Minimum advertised pricing only relates to “advertised” pricing and is perfectly legal under U.S. antitrust statutes. So, essentially, you are limited to advertising MAP-protected products at a certain price, but you can sell these products at any price you choose (often guided by the Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price or MSRP).

What Does this Mean for Online Businesses?

Under typical MAP agreements, online retailers can’t “display” any prices that fall below the MAP price. But which part of an online store actually represents advertising display space has caused quite a bit of controversy. For example, say a product is listed on a site for $10. Once a coupon code or other incentive is applied, the actual shopping cart price could come down to $8. Is that still considered “advertising” since a transaction technically hasn’t yet occurred, or is it a commitment to buy and outside the scope of a MAP agreement?

The difference between an advertised price and an actual price that you may be charged has come under scrutiny by U.S. Circuit Courts and FTC rulings, which tend to agree that an actual price displayed in a secure/encrypted shopping cart isn’t subject to MAP – because it’s technically not advertising space, but represents an actual storefront. So in an online world, an actual price may legally end up being a lot lower than the MAP-required advertised price.

In fact, manufacturers are often advised to focus their MAP policies on advertised prices in paid search ads, shopping comparison ads, and internet landing pages but not in shopping carts or other point of sale interfaces.

Look for Alternative Ways to Discount

While it’s not always advisable to lead with price in your marketing efforts, look for other ways to attract customers without breaking any MAP agreements. For example, many manufacturers are okay with your offering free shipping, coupon codes, or a “buy-one-get-one at a discount,” if MAP doesn’t protect that other item. Essentially, as long as the dollar value of the MAP-protected product isn’t reduced, then you are okay. Be careful with coupon codes. It’s safer to advertise the coupon—not the product that it can be applied against—so as not to imply that you are advertising the MAP item at a reduced price. Instead, be clear about what items are excluded from any coupon code promotion.

The Bottom Line

If you are unsure about how your online advertising and marketing practices may border on breaking any MAP agreement you have with a manufacturer, talk to them or consult a legal attorney. Manufacturers do monitor their dealers for potential violations and the law is constantly in flux on this one, so do your due diligence.

For more information about the legality of MAP policies, check out the Federal Trade Commission Guide to Antitrust Laws.
 
I understand MAP but I don't understand why Benchmade made Knifeworks get rid of their discount codes. You didn't get to see the discounted price until you punched the code in and the item was in your cart. I hope I'm not the only one who's been confused about this particular situation?
 
I don't care to understand anything about pricing except for what price I have to pay. MAP, MSRP, blah, blah, blah. What you posted is a big bunch of mess that I won't be reading. What price do I have to pay will determine if the purchase is worth it for me.
 
You forgot to mention RPM (Resale Price Maintenance) which is what Benchmade seems to be doing. The dealer is not even allowed to give discounts at all, when before with MAP you just couldn't advertise the discounted price.
 
You forgot to mention RPM (Resale Price Maintenance) which is what Benchmade seems to be doing. The dealer is not even allowed to give discounts at all, when before with MAP you just couldn't advertise the discounted price.
How is this so? I recently bought an H&K 14715, the Benchmade website list it at $155, I paid $115 and even saw later (Doh!) I could have bought it elsewhere for $99.
 
I don't care to understand anything about pricing except for what price I have to pay. MAP, MSRP, blah, blah, blah. What you posted is a big bunch of mess that I won't be reading. What price do I have to pay will determine if the purchase is worth it for me.
Agree completely.

I don't need to understand how or why a company determines it's pricing policies to know if I want one. And I don't need a masters degree in economics to know if I can afford one.

No matter how much we know about a company's pricing policies, it's not going to have the slightest effect on those policies. The only way consumers can influence a company's prices is to not buy their products and tell them it's because they are too expensive.

For more information about the legality of MAP policies, check out the Federal Trade Commission Guide to Antitrust Laws.
Oh boy, that sure sounds like a good time. Nothing more fun than reading Federal antitrust laws. :D
 
Not complaining but Benchmade lost tons of customers and that's a fact.

Yeah, that's me. When the price of a plastic-handled Benchmade cracks the $100 barrier, I start to feel like they don't love me anymore. Like Mr. Craytab said, all that matters to me is the street price.
 
How is this so? I recently bought an H&K 14715, the Benchmade website list it at $155, I paid $115 and even saw later (Doh!) I could have bought it elsewhere for $99.

I don't know if the HK line is different I was mentioning Benchmades sold by authorized dealers.
 
The market should determine the price. Trying to artificially level the playing field by enforcing MAP... I don't understand it.
 
I understand MAP but I don't understand why Benchmade made Knifeworks get rid of their discount codes. You didn't get to see the discounted price until you punched the code in and the item was in your cart. I hope I'm not the only one who's been confused about this particular situation?
It wasn't just Knifeworks. Every online retailer that had a "hidden" discount code had to stop. And Benchmade isn't the only company that enforces MAP. ZT does as well.

How is this so? I recently bought an H&K 14715, the Benchmade website list it at $155, I paid $115 and even saw later (Doh!) I could have bought it elsewhere for $99.
The HK line is different, as it is not branded Benchmade. Their Harley Davidson line (when it existed) was the same way.
 
I don't care to understand anything about pricing except for what price I have to pay. MAP, MSRP, blah, blah, blah. What you posted is a big bunch of mess that I won't be reading. What price do I have to pay will determine if the purchase is worth it for me.

Oh jeez. His point is that you need to stop getting mad at benchmade. The dealers have every right to sell their knives below map and just not advertise them like that. Knife center does this all the time. The have the whole "add to cart for special price" thing going on. This can be used to bypass MAP regulations and sell the knife for cheaper, while still technically advertising it at MAP.

But no..... The dealers want to take full advantage of the "unfortunate" new pricing policies, as if they can't do anything about it. Pshh. Sad
 
MAP pricing is only a bad thing if you feel like the knife isn't worth the price, otherwise it shouldn't effect you. It really only affect dealers who use discounts as a loss leader...

CRK has been MAP since... ever... Benchmade's decision isn't anything new.
 
I understand MAP but I don't understand why Benchmade made Knifeworks get rid of their discount codes. You didn't get to see the discounted price until you punched the code in and the item was in your cart. I hope I'm not the only one who's been confused about this particular situation?

Some call this specific practic, UPP (Unilateral Price Protection or Unilateral Pricing).
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unilateral_policy
Strider, Chris Reeve, Benchmade, and a handful of other manufacturers do this.
 
Oh jeez. His point is that you need to stop getting mad at benchmade. The dealers have every right to sell their knives below map and just not advertise them like that. Knife center does this all the time. The have the whole "add to cart for special price" thing going on. This can be used to bypass MAP regulations and sell the knife for cheaper, while still technically advertising it at MAP.

But no..... The dealers want to take full advantage of the "unfortunate" new pricing policies, as if they can't do anything about it. Pshh. Sad

It is not difficult. None of this BS matters in the least. The only thing I care about as a consumer is what price I am paying vs the quality of the product I am getting. To talk about carts, or advertised price, or what the manufacturer/dealer says means exactly jack squat.

Give me a product I think is worth the price I pay for it.
 
Thread fail as far as Im concerned, no one is upset at BM's pricing simply because they dont know what MAP means smh.
 
Thread fail as far as Im concerned, no one is upset at BM's pricing simply because they dont know what MAP means smh.
Thanks, I was about to post similar to this lol. This is just stirring the pot as far as I'm concerned. It seems it's not truly 'MAP' that caused the price changes. See: Rev's post
 
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