Marion Poff ripped me off

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oldpinecricker

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Sorry to say that my once good friend Marion Poff has taken me for an ride, basically thieving money from folks who care about him.

Before his wedding he was to sell an blade online for me and I was to pay him an generous commission, as he had no real income or job at this point being June-July of this summer.

Well the blade sold I belive in June and I've seen no proceeds from the sale. Hell, I can pic and post an item online, but I wanted him to do it for me so I could send some $$$$ his way for an few minutes of actual work. Instead he aquired 100% taken all the funds and staying hidden just calling me once since his wedding in July.

What really pisses me off is that here is an person I enjoy being around. I drive his sorry ass around in my vehicle on his wedding and before because he's without an vehicle. Whenever we go somewhere I often end up footing the bill. I've loaned him some money in the past (as in 2-3 years ago) and instead of feeling like an responsible person and at least trying to pay some back he ends up buying and adding to his Spyderco Mule collection, and picking up other blades instead of being an grown-up and being half assed responsible.

Well Marion Poff, if your reading this I just hope you'll realize that you need to grow up and at least be responsible to some degree, because actions have consequences, especially stealing from someone and taking that which isn't yours. You can keep the funds you owe me, because to me principle matters more than money, as I have saved enough for an rainy day. Besides, the economy is poor and you need it more than I do. It's not the amount or money, it's how you put knives and junk in front of being responsible and living hand to mouth.

I'd like my Delta saw and all my blades shipped back to me at my address, and I hope someday realize that your family and friends are important assets and should be treated with honesty and not be taken advantage of. You should really ponder this Marion and become responsible at some point in the future.

Wish you good fortune and success in the future if you deserve it.

Oldpinecricker
 
Sounds like some of my "past" friends. Sucks when you help someone just to be nice not expecting any sort of reciprocation, yet they cant even pay back they $ they OWE, let alone return the favor.

PS, might wanna watch the language, this is an all ages forum (and posted in the wrong one taboot)
 
Aaron,

I do owe you money. And, I will repay it.

I will return your saw, and your knives, though I won't ship them too you. As you have pointed out, I do live hand to mouth. My father-in-law goes down that way fairly regularly, and I will arrange to go down with him, and bring them to you. I will be in touch, though it may not be as soon as you would like.

It is funny how your self-righteous indictment leaves out a number of facts. But, rather than try to hash it out, I just hope that if I can figure out a way to finalize our business, so there might be a chance we can be friends again. I have not met your expectations, reasonable or not. And for that I am sorry. I did not know how to talk to you about this stuff, because I feared this very thing.

If you would like to extract any more revenge, this thread is a great way to do it. Simply post whatever you like, and I won't argue with you.

Kind Regards,
Marion
 
Marion David Poff said:
Aaron,

I do owe you money. And, I will repay it.

I will return your saw, and your knives, though I won't ship them too you. As you have pointed out, I do live hand to mouth. My father-in-law goes down that way fairly regularly, and I will arrange to go down with him, and bring them to you. I will be in touch, though it may not be as soon as you would like.

It is funny how your self-righteous indictment leaves out a number of facts. But, rather than try to hash it out, I just hope that if I can figure out a way to finalize our business, so there might be a chance we can be friends again. I have not met your expectations, reasonable or not. And for that I am sorry. I did not know how to talk to you about this stuff, because I feared this very thing.

If you would like to extract any more revenge, this thread is a great way to do it. Simply post whatever you like, and I won't argue with you.

Kind Regards,
Marion
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Your reply speaks volumes and comments aren't necessary.
 
Friends should never borrow money from friends
Friends should never loan money to friends

When a friend borrows money and cannot pay it back it generally damages the friendship beyond repair.

If you owe a good friend money and cannot pay it back as promised, you need to be absolutely upfront and honest with the understanding that said friendship is probably not so "good" anymore.
 
Someone once told me during a talk the best way to ruin a good friendship is to lend a Friend or borrow from a friend money. and also to move in together and become roommates. I have never had this problem but almost everyone I know has at some point in their life and now no longer speaks with said friend.
 
Marion and Aaron, it is funny how you stumble into some threads that hit home. I to have had bad dealings with past friends. My best friend and I went into business together and it didn't workout at all. Because of this we went different ways.

Marion, you should do what you can to make it right to Aaron. Don't be scared to talk to him. Not talking to him is the worst thing you can do because it paints a picture to him that you don't care.

Aaron, work with Marion. Sometimes it takes a slap in the face to get someone's attention.

Guys don't let your friendship die over money. That is the worst. Work together and communicate with each other. Do what you must to protect your friendship.

Good Luck...
 
Thanks for the advice all and I'll still consider it.

Herein is the problem.

Marion is an creative and intelligent person who I enjoy being around very much. I cannot tell everyone all the great blade and technical advise he's given me and he's done some really nice things for me and vice versa. He's not someone I have some hatred and buring desire for him to go down.

The issue is that this is an business problem and not an friendship problem. Marion took it on himself to not stay in communication, and indeed took funds that didn't belong to him. That's the bottom line. This is purely an business problem and nothing else.

When you take something that doesn't belong to you, do it on purpose, and don't communicate anything to the other party, that is THEFT. Pure and simple.

I shouldn't even be having this conversation or hardship with Marion, but he's in business as an maker and knife seller on this forum. If someone did this to Mr. Poff I'm certain he wouldn't be in any way happy in the least. He simply took funds and without an explanation. What is that?

Hopefully Marion Poff will take an lesson from this and move on to bigger and better things, but I'm worried.

Like I said Marion is bright and creative, but he's not been honest or responsible. Instead he's participated in stupid and destructive behavior and has nobody but himself to blame. My hope is that he needs to buck up in the ethic department as he can be an much better person than this.

When it comes down to it, I'm not bitter, but upset that Marion is an HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE, business person, and that is putting it mildly.

I'll offer that Marion can keep everything he owes me because this is indeed an difficult economic time, and I'm not all about money. All I want are my blades and saw sent back to me.

Soooo, Marion. If your reading this, give me your address and I'll send the shipping funds to retrive my property at my expense, none to you. That way all things are settled and we can call it square, fair, and done.

I think this is the best avenue to go and hopefully Mr. Poff will agree with my wish as it's VERY generous and I don't want anything from or any face to face with someone who I consider an thief.

Oldpinecricker
 
Marion David Poff said:
Aaron,

I do owe you money. And, I will repay it.

I will return your saw, and your knives, though I won't ship them too you. As you have pointed out, I do live hand to mouth. My father-in-law goes down that way fairly regularly, and I will arrange to go down with him, and bring them to you. I will be in touch, though it may not be as soon as you would like.

It is funny how your self-righteous indictment leaves out a number of facts. But, rather than try to hash it out, I just hope that if I can figure out a way to finalize our business, so there might be a chance we can be friends again. I have not met your expectations, reasonable or not. And for that I am sorry. I did not know how to talk to you about this stuff, because I feared this very thing.

If you would like to extract any more revenge, this thread is a great way to do it. Simply post whatever you like, and I won't argue with you.

Kind Regards,
Marion
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this seems to me less of a confession or apology than an accusation.

mr. poff,

if you have information that would mitigate anything you have done you should post it. otherwise trying to blame the guy that loaned you money and helped you during bad times for your shortcomings is in very poor taste.
 
oldpinecricker said:
Thanks for the advice all and I'll still consider it.....

I'll offer that Marion can keep everything he owes me because this is indeed an difficult economic time, and I'm not all about money. All I want are my blades and saw sent back to me.

Soooo, Marion. If your reading this, give me your address and I'll send the shipping funds to retrive my property at my expense, none to you. That way all things are settled and we can call it square, fair, and done.

I think this is the best avenue to go and hopefully Mr. Poff will agree with my wish as it's VERY generous and I don't want anything from or any face to face with someone who I consider an thief.

Oldpinecricker
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Now that is a smart move - remove all the obstacles so that he has no excuses - which will also show if ones property is still there and unsold.
 
oldpinecricker said:
Thanks for the advice all and I'll still consider it.

I'll offer that Marion can keep everything he owes me because this is indeed an difficult economic time, and I'm not all about money. All I want are my blades and saw sent back to me.

Soooo, Marion. If your reading this, give me your address and I'll send the shipping funds to retrive my property at my expense, none to you. That way all things are settled and we can call it square, fair, and done.

I think this is the best avenue to go and hopefully Mr. Poff will agree with my wish as it's VERY generous and I don't want anything from or any face to face with someone who I consider an thief.

Oldpinecricker
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Falcor said:
Now that is a smart move - remove all the obstacles so that he has no excuses - which will also show if ones property is still there and unsold.
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I agree with both of you 110%. :thumbup:
 
Marion, you advertise yourself as a knifemaker. I don't know what the whole deal was regarding the knives you owe the OP, however I hope you realize that by admitting you do not have the money to ship his stuff back you are shooting yourself in the foot. Who would order anything from a guy that cannot even afford to ship a package? Do you think that after this potential customers will still consider paying you a deposit?
 
Aaron,

Should I ship these to your parent's store? On Silver Valley Rd?


MORIMOTOM said:
this seems to me less of a confession or apology than an accusation.

mr. poff,

if you have information that would mitigate anything you have done you should post it. otherwise trying to blame the guy that loaned you money and helped you during bad times for your shortcomings is in very poor taste.
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I think our little drama has went on too long already. And, I should not have made that comment, while I still think it is true, it matters little. Thank you for pointing it out.


LorenzoL said:
Marion, you advertise yourself as a knifemaker. I don't know what the whole deal was regarding the knives you owe the OP, however I hope you realize that by admitting you do not have the money to ship his stuff back you are shooting yourself in the foot. Who would order anything from a guy that cannot even afford to ship a package? Do you think that after this potential customers will still consider paying you a deposit?
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You are right, I had assumed it would be more, as the saw is not small, nor lightweight, but I just ran the calculation, and it is trivial.


Kind Regards,
Marion
 
Wow. Screwing over someone who tries to help you is a scumbag move of the worst kind. I remember growing up, my dad was the guy always helping out his "friends". Scumbags, every single one of em'. Even when he passed away, these scumbags didn't even have enough enough balls to show up to his funeral to pay their respects. Why? Because scumbags just forget about situations where they have screwed over a "friend" and then they move on to the next one and eventually do him the same way.

Once a scumbag, always a scumbag.
 
kzooglock23 said:
Wow. Screwing over someone who tries to help you is a scumbag move of the worst kind. I remember growing up, my dad was the guy always helping out his "friends". Scumbags, every single one of em'. Even when he passed away, these scumbags didn't even have enough enough balls to show up to his funeral to pay their respects. Why? Because scumbags just forget about situations where they have screwed over a "friend" and then they move on to the next one and eventually do him the same way.

Once a scumbag, always a scumbag.
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Tell us what you really think... :p
 
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