Maxpedition Falcon-II - Long and Pic Heavy!

Heres pics of my finalized setup.... I scored me another 10x4 bottle holder from twowolves, and slapped her on the other side. I thought it would ballance out the pack, and allow for more water. I was right, Im happy with the looks of it! I then put my bivy into a silcordura stuffsack I had, and slapped her to the bottom. My favorite hat is slapped on top. With my Kifaru woobie inside, and all supplies for an overnighter+, including 2 MREs, I still have room. I also have the option of slappin a machete or my hawk to the side. Anyways, heres some pics...

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This thread is really great. I'm looking at getting a MaxP backpack and was torn between the Condor & Falcon. After reading this thread I think the Falcon will be more than enough. I was planning on ordering 2 rolly-polys for the side but after seeing the 10X4 it looks good. Do you think the rollys would be a better option and if so why ??
 
This thread is really great. I'm looking at getting a MaxP backpack and was torn between the Condor & Falcon. After reading this thread I think the Falcon will be more than enough. I was planning on ordering 2 rolly-polys for the side but after seeing the 10X4 it looks good. Do you think the rollys would be a better option and if so why ??

I think that they would be good to have on day when you don't need the bulky insulated 10x4's on the side. Rolled up, they are so small that they keep the pack looking slick outside. They really are very useful and reasonbably priced.
You may or may not be able to get a cup in these though.
 
Love this thread, fantastic, in depth review!
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I'd read a brief owners review that he thought that the pack was much larger than it actually is. I was surprised when I checked the spec'. It seemed larger to me too. :confused:

I use a 45 litre daysack and that's my absolute minimum, I really wish that this model was available, twice the size. Then it'd be about perfect, the modular system does looks good.

Whilst I'd like to buy one, the size, and the fact that in the UK, the bag sells at $188:24 :eek: makes it a no-go at the moment.
 
I'd like hear from more folks and any of the long term owners. I have a LL Bean & REI backpack that are new that I need to get rid of and hopefully buy something like this.
 
[...]I was planning on ordering 2 rolly-polys for the side but after seeing the 10X4 it looks good. Do you think the rollys would be a better option and if so why ??

I think that they would be good to have on day when you don't need the bulky insulated 10x4's on the side. Rolled up, they are so small that they keep the pack looking slick outside. They really are very useful and reasonbably priced.
You may or may not be able to get a cup in these though.

I personally liked the rolly-poly's better on the pack. When I tried it with my 10x4 on one side, it became pretty bulky and awkward for me. Although I have no doubt that if I had one more to balance out the other side it would have felt a little better (like Jake's set-up), I still think it would have been too bulky for me.

And you can't fit a cup in the mini-rolly-polys; I tried to no avail. The bottle alone is a snug fit. The one thing about using the mini-rollypoly's is that the molle doesn't run the length of the pouch (this lets you fold it up compactly). As a result, the rolly-poly tends to swing around a little bit. You can counter this by using the bottom side compression straps over the pouch with the bottle in it, but it's a bit annoying sometimes and doesn't let you really cinch things down.

I wish Maxped would make a pack a little larger than the Falcon-II (maybe 30-35L and a bit wider across the back rather than out from the back), that also had built in mesh bottle pockets like the Pygmy....I'd be all over that :).

I'd read a brief owners review that he thought that the pack was much larger than it actually is. I was surprised when I checked the spec'. It seemed larger to me too. :confused:

Yeah, the pics on the maxped site make the Falcon-II look really large and the Pygmy really small due to their choice of model. However, if you look at the specs, both packs are pretty close in size. Having owned/used both now, I can confirm that they are pretty much the same size.

If you like a smaller bag, the Falcon-II is a pleasant surprise. It used to feel a bit small to me, but I've pared down the stuff I carry since I sold the pack, and wouldn't be opposed to picking up another one down the line. I'm using a Camelbak military HAWG now, and it fills my needs just as well (if not better), so I'm not missing the Faclon-II too much :) It is a great pack though :thumbup:

Maybe you should check out the Condor or Vulture for a bigger maxpedition pack, AeroNautiCal :thumbup:

I'd like hear from more folks and any of the long term owners. I have a LL Bean & REI backpack that are new that I need to get rid of and hopefully buy something like this.


I know KGD got one of these a little while ago, hope he chimes in with why he likes it :)


Looking back, my only real complaints about this pack were the accordion compartment design and the bladder pocket.

I found that I wanted the main compartment to be a bit larger to accommodate bulkier items, especially since a full bladder takes up a bit of room in the main compartment. Also, when you really load the pack up, the accordion design allows the weight to settle farther from your back (even if you put the heaviest items closest to your back). I found this put more strain on my shoulders/back for long hikes, and I didn't like the way it affected my balance. While the accordion design is great for keeping the pack slim on your back, and minimizing excess empty space...I think the pack could benefit from being a little wider while not expanding so far away from your back. This is just based off memory...I wish I still had the pack so I could directly compare how it rides to my current Camelbak.

I think Maxped could learn a thing or two from Camelbak with regards to the bladder pocket and the back of the pack. First, I think no one would complain if the back used a little better padding and was more ventilated. If you stick the bladder in the pocket with the fill port facing out, you will feel it on your back. Not a big deal after a while but you notice it when you first put it on. Desmobob pointed out a simple solution to me a while back: just turn the bladder around so the fill port faces the interior of the pack. The loop for hanging your bladder was annoyingly wide, you have to tie a paracord loop or something on there if you'll be using bladders often. Lastly, the insulation on camelbak bladder pockets are awesome; I wish maxped would beef up the insulation in their hydration compatible packs.

Other than those two things for me, the pack was awesome :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:. Great for dayhikes, excellent for neat freaks, and tough.
 
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Tad Gears RDDP1 (Dump Pouch) will fit a cup and nalgene and still leave some wiggle room and you can cinch it completely shut. Very small footprint on these but the design isn't for everyone that wants a dump pouch.
http://www.tadgear.com/shop.php?id=497
 
Oh boy, I was certain that the Jumbo EDC would resolve my low space issues (I have a Fatboy), but reading this has thrown a wrench in my plans :eek:. Now instead of going for a larger Versipack, I'm thinking I should get a Condor II because it will be more comfortable carrying weight then a shoulder pack, and will have room to spare :rolleyes:.
 
Tad Gears RDDP1 (Dump Pouch) will fit a cup and nalgene and still leave some wiggle room and you can cinch it completely shut. Very small footprint on these but the design isn't for everyone that wants a dump pouch.
http://www.tadgear.com/shop.php?id=497

Excellent suggestion! :thumbup: That looks like a great pouch, and I like that you can cinch it close in use and zip it up clamshell style when not in use. Might get two of these for my HAWG....:)

Oh boy, I was certain that the Jumbo EDC would resolve my low space issues (I have a Fatboy), but reading this has thrown a wrench in my plans :eek:. Now instead of going for a larger Versipack, I'm thinking I should get a Condor II because it will be more comfortable carrying weight then a shoulder pack, and will have room to spare :rolleyes:.

I like the backpacks myself for the even weight distribution. :thumbup:
 
I'm stuck on wether to get the falcon 2 in digi camo or orange/foliage !!

Can't decide !!
 
This is just personal opinion, but I base it on having owned, and gotten rid of the Falcon, and owning both a Pygmy Falcon in black and a Pygmy Falcon II in khaki...
I found the lack of mesh external bottle holders on the Falcon meant I had to add to the outside dimension of the pack to carry water, as I am opposed to the bladder concept for hygenic reasons.. they can be a pain in the field to clean!
Adding anything big enough to carry a standard nalgene bottle meant my arm swing was impeded, not to mention the width increase makes it a pain to everyone else on public transit as I siddle down the ailseway! :(
I also found the main compartment of the Falcon to be too shallow to carry anything of bulk, like a sweater, or an extra purchase if I was out and about shopping, or had a bottle of Ta-Kill-Ya to carry home...
The Pygmy Falcon, I feel, overcomes these issues with the external bottle holders and a much deeper main compartment... Yeah, there is a loss in the ability to spread all the little essentials around the way the Falcon allows, but I carry my little kits in containers so that I can switch them easily between packs based on how much I may want to carry...

Otherwise, the MaxPed packs are great stuff for durability and quality to start with... It just depends on what you really want out of your pack...

Personally, I've found this to be a great thread, even if it is now an old one!
 
Excellent suggestion! :thumbup: That looks like a great pouch, and I like that you can cinch it close in use and zip it up clamshell style when not in use. Might get two of these for my HAWG....:)

I'll put them in my TG Round Pouch bottle holder thread here also.
 
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I can't believe I missed this to start with. That's a great looking set up you have going on there Russell! Maxpedition puts together some great packs with really well thought out compartmentalization, and attachment options. I carry my RC-4 in the same location as you carry your Izula, and then my izula in the Janus pouch. I'm really loving my Sitka for my uses...it's a little smaller and easy to deal with in an urban environment, and with the single shoulder strap (which is more comfortable than most might think) I can easily shed it even if my right hand is busy with a larger object...such as 4 yr old my daughter lol, plus it has the hydration compartment also. That said I really like the looks of that pack! I may end up picking one of those up for longer trips to the woods where I need to carry more gear. Thanks for the great review!!
 
what do you guys think - orange/foliage or ACU

Small roly and bottle holder or medium roly and bottle holder
 
I'm stuck on wether to get the falcon 2 in digi camo or orange/foliage !!

Can't decide !!

I'll give you the standard "get both" :p One can be a dedicated hiking pack, one can be a vehicle/home BOB... :D

Personally, the bright colors on the maxpeds weird me out...though the bumblebee Falcon is sort of cool. For my tastes, I'd go ACU.

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I found the lack of mesh external bottle holders on the Falcon meant I had to add to the outside dimension of the pack to carry water, as I am opposed to the bladder concept for hygenic reasons.. they can be a pain in the field to clean!
Adding anything big enough to carry a standard nalgene bottle meant my arm swing was impeded, not to mention the width increase makes it a pain to everyone else on public transit as I siddle down the ailseway! :(
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I agree:thumbup:. Adding anything to the sides of the Falcon takes away the streamlined nature of the pack and also makes it all a bit "floppy." The mini-rollypoly (that TAD gear pouch looks even better) is the least evil in this case. I like hydration systems because it makes it easy to drink often and while on the go, but they are indeed a pain to clean, especially in the field. That's one of the reasons I like carrying my guyot and cup as well if possible (the other reasons being the ability to make sterile water indefinitely, and the durability of nalgenes/guyots). Hydration bladders are also nice, because they allow me to carry 3L of water easily in one spot of need be.

[...]The Pygmy Falcon, I feel, overcomes these issues with the external bottle holders and a much deeper main compartment... Yeah, there is a loss in the ability to spread all the little essentials around the way the Falcon allows, but I carry my little kits in containers so that I can switch them easily between packs based on how much I may want to carry...
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I am using the Pygmy as an EDC pack, and am absolutely loving it so far. I am going to do a few hikes with it too, to see how I like it, but like I said above, I'd love to see Maxpedition come out with something a tad bigger than the Falcon-II, with the integrated mesh bottle pockets of the Pygmy. That would be a great pack for me :thumbup:

I have the exact same system for my kits, Joe :thumbup: My FAK and PSK are now packed in otterboxes/pelican boxes and I love being able to switch them between packs or pick what I want to carry.

Having this thread resurrected makes me want to do another thread with my current set-up. It's interesting looking back and seeing how your thought and gear has changed.


Heres a couple photos for you. I'll put them in my TG Round Pouch bottle holder thread here also.

Thanks PM66 :thumbup: I like that pouch because folded up, it's smooth and flat. I might give it a try sometime, since my HAWG has side compression straps that would probably keep the pouch from flopping around too much. Definitely looks wide enough; is the guyot nested in a cup in your pics? It looks like it might be a bit too tall, but definitely worth a try when I have the extra coin :)
 
Thanks PM66 Definitely looks wide enough; is the guyot nested in a cup in your pics? It looks like it might be a bit too tall, but definitely worth a try when I have the extra coin :)

The Guyot is nested in the GSI cup inside the cinched pouch. There is a few extra inches on top before you cinch it. Plenty of room inside. The 48oz Nalgene won't cinch up but does fit.
 
I can't believe I missed this to start with. That's a great looking set up you have going on there Russell! Maxpedition puts together some great packs with really well thought out compartmentalization, and attachment options. I carry my RC-4 in the same location as you carry your Izula, and then my izula in the Janus pouch. I'm really loving my Sitka for my uses...it's a little smaller and easy to deal with in an urban environment, and with the single shoulder strap (which is more comfortable than most might think) I can easily shed it even if my right hand is busy with a larger object...such as 4 yr old my daughter lol, plus it has the hydration compartment also. That said I really like the looks of that pack! I may end up picking one of those up for longer trips to the woods where I need to carry more gear. Thanks for the great review!!

They definitely do put out great stuff Brian :thumbup:. Especially for "everything in it's place" freaks like me. Even though I've moved more towards modular containers, I still love nifty pockets and compartments :D. Fonly has this pack now, would love to see what he's done with it :). One of these days I'm going to do a review of my Pygmy, since it's geared towards urban survival as my EDC commute pack.

It's sort of funny, looking back on your gear chase and seeing your progression or oscillation. Just a little while ago, I was regretting selling this pack. I ended up with a Camelbak mil HAWG, but I had seriously considered buying another Falcon-II:o:). Sometimes you don't know what you have until it's gone :). Even looking back at my kits and bat-belt...man, a lot has changed :D

Seeing as you already have a Sitka, I think you'll be pleased with a Falcon or Pygmy for the longer woods trips :thumbup: Thanks for stopping by, Brian!

The Guyot is nested in the GSI cup inside the cinched pouch. There is a few extra inches on top before you cinch it. Plenty of room inside. The 48oz Nalgene won't cinch up but does fit.

Excellent, thanks :thumbup: Come to think of it, my pop-can stove might fill that extra few inches nicely, so the added height might not be a problem...
 
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Fonly has this pack now, would love to see what he's done with it :).

Hehe, Ill get some pics up tomorrow. Its been my goto pack for SAR, as well as the HSGI Warlord V4. Both carry what I need and the falcon has had the crap kicked out of it but still looks great. I've had it on both sides of canada now, and has worked great for me. I still love the thing.:D:thumbup:
 
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