MAYBE the most beautiful and affordable traditional luxury European knife EVER!

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Alex17

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When it comes to traditional beauty, Le Français beats them all.
Simplicity, beauty, quality, elegance, 8 different woods and colors, and a lifetime-guarantee: Le Français is unchallengeable in the "European no-bullshit EDC" category. None of its numerous owners ever complain. If you like 0% snobbish European luxury, this is your next love affair.
Brand: Perceval.
Price: 115/265 Euros.
You'll find them easily: search "atelier Perceval" on Google, go to their site, then switch to the English version (top left of the page) and you're in.

Manufacturer link http://www.couteau.com/le-francais_1_.html :thumbup:

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I love the lines on that! It's definitely going on my 'to buy' list.

What is the steel used on that? I'm going to have to do some research on dealers it seems.
 
arjung said:
What is the steel used on that?
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My link to the manufacture has been censored, for reasons I just don't understand: why does the forum prevent people from getting in touch with one of the most respected knives maker in Europe? This is a mystery to me.
Anyway, Perceval loves to discuss with consumers: ask them all you wanna know. You'll find them easily: search "atelier Perceval" on Google, go to their site, then switch to the English version (top left of the page) and you're in. But beware: you're gonna love what you see... ;)
 
Alex17 said:
My link to the manufacture has been censored, for reasons I just don't understand: why does the forum prevent people from getting in touch with one of the most respected knives maker in Europe? This is a mystery to me.
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Bladeforums is partially supported by members/dealers who pay a not-insignificant chunk of change for the privilege of advertising/selling their stuff here. Giving free advertising to dealers that aren't paying subscribers would be unfair to those that contribute to and support the forum.
 
Planterz said:
Bladeforums is partially supported by members/dealers who pay a not-insignificant chunk of change for the privilege of advertising/selling their stuff here. Giving free advertising to dealers that aren't paying subscribers would be unfair to those that contribute to and support the forum.
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All right, but Perceval IS NOT a dealer, it's a traditional manufacture that deals its own knives. So the forum prevents access to its site, to its philosophy, products and catalog, which is meaningless in my eyes. If you prevent forum members to reach manufactures, you prevent traditional knive-makers from existing online and doing what they love so much: discussing about their passion with their consumers and fans. That's why I still don't understand. I'm not criticizing the forum: just defending traditional manufacturers. But thanks for the explanation!
 
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Your post is very much an advertisement. You gotta pay for those on here.

I like the knives, but they seem a bit expensive for what you get. Sure, they look nice, but they better have some super steel or something at that price.
 
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Alex17 said:
My link to the manufacture has been censored, for reasons I just don't understand: why does the forum prevent people from getting in touch with one of the most respected knives maker in Europe? This is a mystery to me.
Anyway, Perceval loves to discuss with consumers: ask them all you wanna know. You'll find them easily: search "atelier Perceval" on Google, go to their site, then switch to the English version (top left of the page) and you're in. But beware: you're gonna love what you see... ;)
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Or you could just tell us which steel is used?
 
It might have some classic styling, but torx screws and a liner lock strike me as modern rather than traditional. If I want a French knife steeped in history and tradition, I'll get a laguiole, especially for those prices.
 
Lolwut? Is fandom advertising? Do you REALLY think I know those guys personally, work for them and get paid? Can you hear my laughter? :)

I don't know what kind of blade it is (it's a Swedish 19C27 with a cryogenic treatment steel, but I don't know enough to tell you what it means), all I can say is that every serious knives expert in France has one, and I've never seen a disappointed buyer on knives forums, ever. The fact that you don't know Pereceval doesn't mean it doesn't deserve lots of attention. Perceval is a beautiful, elegant, respected brand - and this is not advertising. And yes, it's expensive, but it's a luxury product, you know. If you accessed to their site, you could check what kind of brand it is. Sorry for you if you don't.
 
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Planterz said:
It might have some classic styling, but torx screws and a liner lock strike me as modern rather than traditional. If I want a French knife steeped in history and tradition, I'll get a laguiole, especially for those prices.
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Laguiole is a popular industry. Perceval is a small and highly respected independent knives-maker. When you wanna eat a good steak, do you go to MacDonald's just because you know the name and never trust what you don't know?
 
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Alex17 said:
Lolwut? Is fandom advertising? Do you REALLY think I know those guys personally, work for them and get paid? Can you hear my laughter? :)
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You're not getting it. Nobody thinks you're a shill. But advertising for a non-supporting dealer is against the rules. You're free to agree or disagree, but if you don't follow them, you can find your stay here coming to a quick end. I don't disagree that sometimes this rule can hit some grey areas - like if a manufacturer's website is the only place to purchase, but the rules say that you can't link to a place where they're sold unless they're supporting dealers. You're as free as you want to discuss the knife, but linking to sales page is a no-no. If someone's interested enough, they can find it easily enough on their own on the internet. It's far easier for the mods, and fairer to the supporting dealers to enforce a "no tolerance" policy rather than make a judgement on a case-by-case basis. Simply put, if you can buy it from the website, but they're not paid supporting dealers, don't make a link.

You'll also want to check your attitude. I understand your enthusiasm for this hobby (or profession) that we all share, but challenging the rules is the quickest route to a short stay. You're a guest in this house, and if you're asked to remove your shoes, it's your place to comply, not challenge just because you act differently on your own. Take some time and familiarize yourself with the rules and the ways to earn infractions (which can lead to banning if numerous or severe enough). I'd say refamiliarize yourself, but obviously you didn't familiarize yourself in the first place.

Those are fine looking knives. Talk about the knives, and not where to get them, and the mods won't "censor" you.
 
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Planterz said:
You're not getting it. Nobody thinks you're a shill. But advertising for a non-supporting dealer is against the rules. You're free to agree or disagree, but if you don't follow them, you can find your stay here coming to a quick end. I don't disagree that sometimes this rule can hit some grey areas - like if a manufacturer's website is the only place to purchase, but the rules say that you can't link to a place where they're sold unless they're supporting dealers. You're as free as you want to discuss the knife, but linking to sales page is a no-no. If someone's interested enough, they can find it easily enough on their own on the internet. It's far easier for the mods, and fairer to the supporting dealers to enforce a "no tolerance" policy rather than make a judgement on a case-by-case basis. Simply put, if you can buy it from the website, but they're not paid supporting dealers, don't make a link.

You'll also want to check your attitude. I understand your enthusiasm for this hobby (or profession) that we all share, but challenging the rules is the quickest way to a short stay. You're a guest in this house, and if you're asked to remove your shoes, it's your place to comply, not challenge just because you act differently on your own.
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain instead of firing me, I appreciate a lot.

I really don't get the idea that an independent manufacturer's website is what you call "a non-supporting dealer": I think it's an absurd idea that completely kills the greatness of independent manufacturing and online networking, particularly outside of the US. BUT it's okay, of course, I'll respect the rule from now, you can trust me. I definitely can behave and STFU when I don't agree... I'd be in jail forever if I didn't in real life. :)
 
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Lookit, the knives look nice and all, but they are over-priced for what you get. The base model costs like 150 USD and all you get is a simple liner lock and a cheap 19C27 Sandvik blade with wooden handle slabs. Compare that to a Spyderco Paramilitary with expensive S30V super-steel and G10 handles and a compression lock for just 100 USD! There is no contest. The knives you are promoting look really nice, but there is nothing special about them, other than that they are overpriced.

In fact, the philosophy behind them is a bit confusing, since they are designed to look old-fashioned, yet they feature allen screws and a liner lock. Furthermore, 19C27 Sandvik is not really the best steel choice for this type of knife. It's better suited for industrial cutting blades, because the carbide structure is coarser and it has a very high wear resistance, which coincidentally makes it very hard to sharpen; which also contradicts the point of having it in an EDC knife.
 
Your posts are kind of coming across as an advertisement, but I think you must simply be a huge fan.


On pop music forums we call this type of behavior "stanning". It's nothing to be ashamed of.
 
elegant? yes. overpriced? yes, when you take into account the sum of all parts. EDC? I prefer ease of reach and ease of opening; lack of a pocket clip and needing 2 hands to open it doesn't cut it for me, but I agree it's an elegant knife.
 
I'm sorry, I don't see the elegance in this knife, simplicity yes, but no elegance IMHO.

It is just too plain and lacks a little something in order for it to stand out both aesthetically and economically in my mind.

For me couteaux Thiers' 'Rotoshpere' has that little extra...and for half the price (obviously it is factory made though)
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Or for a slightly higher price a 1515 by Manu Laplace. They are quite tasty indeed!
 
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stoffi said:
Compare that to a Spyderco Paramilitary with expensive S30V super-steel and G10 handles and a compression lock for just 100 USD! There is no contest
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Okay, right, but the Para is not rare: it comes from an international industry, you can find it anywhere. Perceval is not an industry - or, at least, definitely not as much as Spyderco. It's a very small company. You'll never find Le Français in French supermarkets - which are places where you can find Opinels and cheap Laguioles.
 
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when you take into account the sum of all parts
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So you're saying that the whole luxury industry is a joke. For... how much money a Chanel N°5 really costs? I'd say: 10% of the market price, not more. A Français is a luxury product, any French expert will tell you. It's a product you offer only to the people you really love.
 
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