Micron Knives

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sdebree said:
Hiya! Jack’s mom jumping in here to clarify some things…

He’s been working us to death!! LOL His dad and I never realized how much work we would be doing after retirement! When Jack says it’s been 3 months fixing up the new old building, you wouldn’t believe the difference we’ve made in such a short period of time. Can’t wait to get into actual production. But for now, I’ll go dispose of another load of renovation trash!!
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Pardon me, but what is this supposed to clarify exactly?
 
I'd rather it not be entertaining. I don't find the situation amusing at all.

It should be a forum for simple questions and straightforward answers. A lot of folks got bilked by Survive! - any association with them, perceived or otherwise, deserves the increased scrutiny.
 
Boru13 said:
Just curious but what type of steel and who’s doing the heat treatment.
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Looking at magnacut for our first one, with vacubraze and PHT getting some business with the prototypes!

Handles are g10/fr4, as we use those quite often in the electronics prototyping world, so I've got it on hand. The sheaths though, any input?
 
What's the name of your existing machining business and will it continue to operate alongside the knifemaking?

Do you have any employees or is this a one-man operation?

Are your parents working so hard at helping because they have money invested into the existing business, the new business, or both?

What was the conversation like between you and your mom that caused her to come here and make an account to take part in this thread?
 
Ilikesharpstuff said:
What's the name of your existing machining business and will it continue to operate alongside the knifemaking?

Do you have any employees or is this a one-man operation?

Are your parents working so hard at helping because they have money invested into the existing business, the new business, or both?

What was the conversation like between you and your mom that caused her to come here and make an account to take part in this thread?
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Kelley-Tron Machine Co. Is the main show. Day to day operations are me and two full time machinists. My parents and I are equal owners and moved down here after they retired. I am beyond grateful for their help, but they know they are not required to be here slaving away.

And she did that on her own, she's not the only one. My GF and all my friends are following along, just without accounts, so say hi!

There was extensive conversation about whether or not I should introduce ourselves this way. I don't regret it yet, I think it'll be worth it in the long term to establish ourselves this way.

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RHINOKNIVES said:
Jack, I would appreciate a pic of Olive the Doggo & Guy has proven to be lower than whale shit if he gave his dog away in the equipment deal!
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That's more like it
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MicronKnives said:
Kelley-Tron Machine Co. Is the main show. Day to day operations are me and two full time machinists. My parents and I are equal owners and moved down here after they retired. I am beyond grateful for their help, but they know they are not required to be here slaving away.

And she did that on her own, she's not the only one. My GF and all my friends are following along, just without accounts, so say hi!

There was extensive conversation about whether or not I should introduce ourselves this way. I don't regret it yet, I think it'll be worth it in the long term to establish ourselves this way.
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So without any discussion or knowledge of your activity here, your mom coincidentally decided to join Bladeforums just 2.5 hours after you made this post?

Is Micron Knives just the brand name of knives (to be) made by Kelley-Tron Machine Co? They're not separate business entities?

Any pics of this prototype knife?
 
Ilikesharpstuff said:
So without any discussion or knowledge of your activity here, your mom coincidentally decided to join Bladeforums just 2.5 hours after you made this post?

Is Micron Knives just the brand name of knives (to be) made by Kelley-Tron Machine Co? They're not separate business entities?

Any pics of this prototype knife?
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No there was plenty of discussion between us this entire time, I apologize but I don't remember what the conversation was like that led up to her making an account.. probably "should I make an account" followed by "hell yeah why not" then "okay"

The two are separate entities. Micron Knives LLC designs, manufactures, and sells knives. Kelley-Tron will be unaffected by the operations of Micron Knives.

No pics yet, I think some videos of us making the knives will be the first time we release images.
 
The True North said:
Pardon me, but what is this supposed to clarify exactly?
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Ilikesharpstuff said:
So without any discussion or knowledge of your activity here, your mom coincidentally decided to join Bladeforums just 2.5 hours after you made this post?

Is Micron Knives just the brand name of knives (to be) made by Kelley-Tron Machine Co? They're not separate business entities?

Any pics of this prototype knife?
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You bet I joined after Jack posted his first post. It makes perfect sense for me to read the comments as I have a stake in this venture and I’m working right along side Jack and his dad to make it happen. I am very excited for the future and can’t wait to see this shop up and running!
 
MicronKnives said:
On a more positive note, here is a pic of our building! This place was abandoned for quite some time and has taken months of work to get where we are not. Also attached is a before and after of the bathroom.View attachment 2760274View attachment 2760275View attachment 2760277
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Your dad looks like a legend. I genuinely hope all of the hard work that everyone has invested pays off. Nice to see your family supporting you, keep to your values and everything should pan out.
 
Look, I know you think you want to make knives for ecommerce. Lots of upstarts think the same, but they never get any good advice, so I'll help you out.

First, you go get yourself 500 railroad spikes, a coal farrier's forge, and a 3 lb ball peen hammer, a good pair of vice grips, 500 lbs of coal, and a piece of railroad mainline.

You take those railroad spikes and you start forging them into knifes, one by one. Forge them completely to the final knife shape, none of this sissy grinder nonsense. Keep forging until every spike is a knife.

Then you take the knife billets and you start heating them up until they glow enough to where a magnet doesn't stick to them anymore, and dunk it in the creek. Do this for all 500 of them.

Then, maybe, just maybe, you'll be ready to make a knife worth a darn.
 
MicronKnives said:
Looking at magnacut for our first one, with vacubraze and PHT getting some business with the prototypes!

Handles are g10/fr4, as we use those quite often in the electronics prototyping world, so I've got it on hand. The sheaths though, any input?
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First of all, I have no practical experience in knife making, so my opinion about knife making is mostly based on what I read on the internet.
I like things that are as functional and durable as possible, and require as little maintenance as possible. That's why I would choose plastic sheath material. Within this, I would choose Boltaron, because as far as I know it is better, more durable than Kydex (and especially more durable than Holstex), it starts to soften at slightly higher temperatures than Kydex and becomes less brittle at low temperatures. Within Boltaron, if you can get it, the 4332 version would be better, but 4335 is also good, the latter is perhaps easier to get and a little stronger, but it can withstand more extreme temperatures a little less and is less tough.
For the handle material, I would also choose G10, it is very durable, easy to obtain, and available in many colors.
In terms of steel, I think the most balanced (wear resistance-toughness) is CPM 3V, and among stainless steels, MagnaCut, so I would choose these first if the knives are intended for harder use, but wear resistance is also important. Of course, proper heat treatment is essential for these steels as well (e.g. appropriate low temperature tempering cycles, and if greater hardness is required, cryo treatment as well).

And I wish your company and you the best of luck!
 
MVD said:
First of all, I have no practical experience in knife making, so my opinion about knife making is mostly based on what I read on the internet.
I like things that are as functional and durable as possible, and require as little maintenance as possible. That's why I would choose plastic sheath material. Within this, I would choose Boltaron, because as far as I know it is better, more durable than Kydex (and especially more durable than Holstex), it starts to soften at slightly higher temperatures than Kydex and becomes less brittle at low temperatures. Within Boltaron, if you can get it, the 4332 version would be better, but 4335 is also good, the latter is perhaps easier to get and a little stronger, but it can withstand more extreme temperatures a little less and is less tough.
For the handle material, I would also choose G10, it is very durable, easy to obtain, and available in many colors.
In terms of steel, I think the most balanced (wear resistance-toughness) is CPM 3V, and among stainless steels, MagnaCut, so I would choose these first if the knives are intended for harder use, but wear resistance is also important. Of course, proper heat treatment is essential for these steels as well (e.g. appropriate low temperature tempering cycles, and if greater hardness is required, cryo treatment as well).

And I wish your company and you the best of luck!
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Awesome info, I appreciate the effort you put into that. The plastics world did not extend past injection mold die work, so I'll have to be careful with how we move on with sheaths.

Thank you for the kind words as well!
Synov said:
Chill out guys. Just because he doesn't understand all the history here with Guy and every nuance of the forum culture, doesn't mean you need to jump down his throat. At least wait for the knives to come out before you scare him away :rolleyes:
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Hoping my knives are well received, even though they won't be smashed up pieces of railroad.
 
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