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Microtech: This is just preposterous!
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I was honestly being 100% sarcastic & just kidding around with, Sean; I'm pretty certain that he knew this. I guess watching that cartoon that was posted, along with the strong coffee I drank this morning, got me a little wound up...
My sincerest apologies, Sean, for my attempt at trying to be funny.
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Apologies from everyone Rev, I would like to keep this thread on topic because I feel like it is an important consideration for the consumer if they cannot sharpen their own knives without fear of voiding their very important warranty.
What I am curious about is whether this insert is specific to OTF's (which seems to be the only thing MT has been making lately) or if it applies to all of their knives. Hopefully there will be a new run of Deltas/Whalesharks/D.O.Cs and someone can confirm that it's the same.
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I would also like to know this, as I have been considering a halo v and doc for sometime now. This would definitely be a deal breaker for me so hopefully someone with more knowledge can shed some light
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I'm golden John man, no harm.
In all honesty a no sharpen policy is complete BS on non auto knives. So are don't adjust the pivot rules, don't lube the knife rules. Knives are tools that need to be sharpened and maintained for proper function.
***Although, I can see why Microtech would not wan't autos with so many mechanical parts messed. They install those proprietary screws for a reason, so you won't take it apart. If you need it sharpened send it in and pay the $15-$25 bucks and save the hassle. I know 30 to 45 minutes of my personal time is worth more than that.***
My apologies to Misanthropia, if I was a bit sarcastic. I'm sorry.
In all honesty a no sharpen policy is complete BS on non auto knives. So are don't adjust the pivot rules, don't lube the knife rules. Knives are tools that need to be sharpened and maintained for proper function.
***Although, I can see why Microtech would not wan't autos with so many mechanical parts messed. They install those proprietary screws for a reason, so you won't take it apart. If you need it sharpened send it in and pay the $15-$25 bucks and save the hassle. I know 30 to 45 minutes of my personal time is worth more than that.***
My apologies to Misanthropia, if I was a bit sarcastic. I'm sorry.
My brother carries an ultratech daily and has since I gave it to him 3 Christmases ago. Some of the OTF knives are very compact for daily carry.
As far as sharpening voiding the warranty, that's ridiculous, at some point knives will need to be sharpened with use.
Microtech has been an abysmal trainwreck and extreme failure of a knife company for years now. I see that they just keep getting worse. But to be honest this is not surprising to me. They have done so many shady things in the past, (literally too many things to list) that this does not seem out of the ordinary for them. The only thing that I am surprised about is the fact that they are still operating.
Quick question: Is Anthony Marfione the owner of Microtech? I purchased a A. Marfione C.F. Killswitch from another member here on the forum. This is a Marfione custom & not the DOC Killswitch collaboration model done between Strider & MT. If Marfione, is the owner of MT, are the policy/warranties the same as with his custom made automatic knives? I looked at his website, & I couldn't find any information related to warranties.
http://www.bladeops.com/Marfione-Custom-Killswitch-DOC-Automatic-Knife-Ca-p/mtkillswitch.htm
http://www.marfionecustomknives.com/main.html
http://www.bladeops.com/Marfione-Custom-Killswitch-DOC-Automatic-Knife-Ca-p/mtkillswitch.htm
http://www.marfionecustomknives.com/main.html
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I agree that knives need to be sharpened with regular use. Deduction leads my low IQ to believe this warranty applies to autos/otfs due to guys jacking them up. Pay the money and have them sharpen and keep the warranty intact or sharpen away and run the risk of voiding the warranty. Hell guys, most rules and regulations suck I know I've enforced laws for 15 plus years.
John, I have a brand new Custom Anax and it doesn't come with any warranty paperwork.
John, I have a brand new Custom Anax and it doesn't come with any warranty paperwork.
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With a lot of these autos bought on the secondary market it isn't always easy to just send them in for service. Often these companies require military or LEO ID proof to return the knives to the owner. Obviously there are ways around this but it's just one more hassle and for sharpening it's just stupid.
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Does seem like a silly policy. With that said, I have owned literally 40+ microtechs over the years and each and everyone of them were top notch.
I am pretty sure that warranties can be changed at any time and a company can refuse to abide by their older warranty whether or not an item is purchased/produced whilst it was still in effect. Estwing is a pretty good example of this.
I just got off the phone with Microtech & talked to two different people. First off I am going to read the exact wording on a "Lifetime Limited Warranty" card.
Microtech will not warranty products due to loss, damage caused by abuse, neglect, misuse, accident, improper blade sharpening or disassembly.
I was told if the blade is sharpened on a wheel the warranty is void. If it is sharpened on a stone with lite oil, it will not be void. My comment to that
was: " Can I assume that there is someone there who can tell if a knife has been sharpened on a wheel or a stone?" I was told that there is. I am far
from be a knife sharpener so I could make no further comment. Doubt this helps the debate much, but I tried.
Microtech will not warranty products due to loss, damage caused by abuse, neglect, misuse, accident, improper blade sharpening or disassembly.
I was told if the blade is sharpened on a wheel the warranty is void. If it is sharpened on a stone with lite oil, it will not be void. My comment to that
was: " Can I assume that there is someone there who can tell if a knife has been sharpened on a wheel or a stone?" I was told that there is. I am far
from be a knife sharpener so I could make no further comment. Doubt this helps the debate much, but I tried.
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I appreciate you taking the extra steps to get to the bottom of this.
I think its easiest for myself at least to just keep the collection microtech free and save the hassle. Hell I guess that just means I can have more knives from Ernie and Chris. At least they let you maintain your tools
I figure they had to put that in there for the inevitable clown who ruins a blade on his electric grinding wheel.. And then sends it in for a free slab of elmax or whatever blasé steel of the week. I have quit a collection of microtech productions and customs and they are some of the finest knives available . They are a little pricey but if you want the best you have to pay for it.
I talked with a very nice lady from Microtech today and it was explained to me that "normal" sharpening of the blade will not void the warranty, but if you butcher the blade by whatever means, to the point that the blade has to be replaced or a total regrind needs to be performed to repair it, then it will not be covered under warranty. It will be at Microtech's discretion in determining whether the blade has been butchered enough to void the warranty. I don't see this being any different than other companies who won't perform warranty work if they feel you have used your knife in a way that it was not intended for......screw driver, pry bar...etc.
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If this is the truth, they seriously need to change the wording on their insert then to reflect that it's only people that really ruin their blades sharpening it that will void their warranty (like any company).
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Ditto. There's a reason company's pay to have proffesionals word things such as a warranty. Saves confusion for the customer, and prevent loss of business for the company.