Mike Obenauf To Stop Making Knives?

making a living is hard thats life. its not okay to take peoples money in deceit, period. I am glad I don't own one of his knives and I never will. I have been through shit and had times but never lost my integrity through it. Every man will enter a battle and lose it in his life, but what makes a man a man is that he does not lose who he is during that process. it is funny the people that own his stuff are the ones giving him a pass, perhaps hoping their knives don't lose value.
 
I personally never collected or purchased any of Mikes knives. Not my Genre but I have handled many of his knives at various shows and always thought them to be well build quality custom knives.

Its a shame that any person has to leave his passion for a 9-5 job because things did not work out. As a community of Knife makers and collectors the best we can do is offer Mike kind words and tell him that he has made some maybe bad decisions but like I tell my kids...if you end a string of bad decisions with the right decision then all is not lost. I believe Mikes post on CK&G is just that.

There needs to be forgiveness in this world. We need to route for the underdog. I hope Mike makes it back someday.:thumbup:
 
I agree that this is a regrettable course of events, and I agree that a little forgiveness is probably not a bad idea, depending on the circumstances. I disagree that his admitting his defrauding his customers makes him an honorable man. People here have amazingly low standards of what honor is.
 
I never said he was honorable, but I DO give him credit for standing up and saying what he said.
 
Joss said:
I agree that this is a regrettable course of events, and I agree that a little forgiveness is probably not a bad idea, depending on the circumstances. I disagree that his admitting his defrauding his customers makes him an honorable man. People here have amazingly low standards of what honor is.
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you don't read well do you? He said he was going to pay his customers back. how is that defrauding? ever order a product, not get the product and then get your money back? That's not fraud.
 
severedthumbs said:
making a living is hard thats life. its not okay to take peoples money in deceit, period. I am glad I don't own one of his knives and I never will. I have been through shit and had times but never lost my integrity through it. Every man will enter a battle and lose it in his life, but what makes a man a man is that he does not lose who he is during that process. it is funny the people that own his stuff are the ones giving him a pass, perhaps hoping their knives don't lose value.
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once again, a person who can't read.
 
bdws1975 said:
once again, a person who can't read.
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we have all heard the I'll pay it back line before. only time will tell what mike decides to do. we can only judge based on what has actually happened not the promises of a less than honest person.
 
severedthumbs said:
we have all heard the I'll pay it back line before. only time will tell what mike decides to do. we can only judge based on what has actually happened not the promises of a less than honest person.
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well, you should take your advice and NOT judge him before time tells what it will tell. You know for a fact he is less than honest?

(FYI, i don't have any of his knives nor do I know him)
 
I don't own any of his knives, I've never actually seen one outside of a magazine, and I am in no way saying that his taking customers money for orders that he couldn't finish was honorable. What is honorable is his coming forward on his own, before he was forced to, to admit he was wrong and take his licks like a man. Maybe it's because I have a soft spot for people who are down and out and struggling financially, I've been there before (I once spent a year living off of deer meat and $0.69 knock-off kraft dinner) but I'm inclined to throw the man a rope. Whether he uses it to make a noose or pull himself out of his hole - that's his decision.

Nathan
 
NDallyn said:
I don't own any of his knives, I've never actually seen one outside of a magazine, and I am in no way saying that his taking customers money for orders that he couldn't finish was honorable. What is honorable is his coming forward on his own, before he was forced to, to admit he was wrong and take his licks like a man. Maybe it's because I have a soft spot for people who are down and out and struggling financially, I've been there before (I once spent a year living off of deer meat and $0.69 knock-off kraft dinner) but I'm inclined to throw the man a rope. Whether he uses it to make a noose or pull himself out of his hole - that's his decision.

Nathan
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Nicely put.

Brett
 
NDallyn said:
I don't own any of his knives, I've never actually seen one outside of a magazine, and I am in no way saying that his taking customers money for orders that he couldn't finish was honorable. What is honorable is his coming forward on his own, before he was forced to, to admit he was wrong and take his licks like a man. Maybe it's because I have a soft spot for people who are down and out and struggling financially, I've been there before (I once spent a year living off of deer meat and $0.69 knock-off kraft dinner) but I'm inclined to throw the man a rope. Whether he uses it to make a noose or pull himself out of his hole - that's his decision.

Nathan
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Yes... that's what I meant ... exactly ... I have been there too ... man ... you are just lucky having deer meat .. i just had eggs for months when I was in the college.
 
Almost everyone has been there at one point or another, I don't condone it, but I do understand it. When you have to choose between fuel to go to work and buying groceries, hunting season suddenly becomes very important.
 
Joss said:
I agree that this is a regrettable course of events, and I agree that a little forgiveness is probably not a bad idea, depending on the circumstances. I disagree that his admitting his defrauding his customers makes him an honorable man. People here have amazingly low standards of what honor is.
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Honor is earned its not given...I didnt say he was an honorable man..I cannot be the judge of that..heck I do not even know the guy...all I can say is that he ended a series of bad decisions by making a right one. That in itself is a good move.
 
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