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Milan Mozolic - I finally got a knife
- Thread starter Brummie
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Amazingly, this saga has continued. I reported in April last year, that the last communication from
Milan Mozolic
was in February. He got back in touch towards the middle of the year. Communication since:
7 May 2023: Knife and sheath completely finished. Please confirm address, so I can send it to you.
13 June 2023: I have to make you a new knife. Here's a photo. [For the first time, I received an actual photo of a blade blank.]
21 June 2023: Blade is heat-treated. [New photo sent showing HRC testing results.]
26 June 2023: I need to refinish the blade and do handle.
3 August 2023: Took longer than expected, but am finally done. What kind of sheath do you want?
Since then . . crickets. I actually got excited in the summer, seeing pictures of some work in progress for the first time. The knife was apparently finished in August (for the 5th time!), but no photos of the final product, and no communication since.
Milan Mozolic
was in February. He got back in touch towards the middle of the year. Communication since:7 May 2023: Knife and sheath completely finished. Please confirm address, so I can send it to you.
13 June 2023: I have to make you a new knife. Here's a photo. [For the first time, I received an actual photo of a blade blank.]
21 June 2023: Blade is heat-treated. [New photo sent showing HRC testing results.]
26 June 2023: I need to refinish the blade and do handle.
3 August 2023: Took longer than expected, but am finally done. What kind of sheath do you want?
Since then . . crickets. I actually got excited in the summer, seeing pictures of some work in progress for the first time. The knife was apparently finished in August (for the 5th time!), but no photos of the final product, and no communication since.
Hey Brummie have you still not heard back from Milan Mozolic?
I’m just curious because I recently started payment plan on Arizona Custom Knives for layaway for one of his Bowie knives. I had been eyeing it for a while now and finally was able to start a payment plan on it. It wasn’t until after I googled his name and saw this thread. You’d think I would have googled him being that way was eying this knife but all I went off of is seeing it on AZCK and being like “wow I want that Bowie” and just trusting that it’s a quality Bowie because it’s on the site.
I know I’m not dealing with Milan myself and my business is with AZCK but it does not make me feel good to support a maker who is a liar. Though I have to realize if I take notice of most of the maker’s of my knives are controversial yet I must have their knives. Such as Strider, Emerson, Chris Reeve even. People’s personalities can be abrasive and some might even have their integrity and word questioned but they have a notoriously successful product however that never excuses lying but also some people build their empires on lies.
Holy crap I’m rambling. I was just wondering what the situation was like an update and that I think it sucks I chose a Bowie made by a liar but damn it’s a nice Bowie. Im wrapping up my knife collection of about 11 knives, that’s my team. I had chosen that Bowie just looking at it and reading the description. I just found out about the maker’s lack of integrity recently though but I wonder if I still would have picked it up regardless. I’m not thinking resale value when I chose it, his reputation taking a dip and so it will probably depreciate I don’t know but I can’t afford to play this knife game where it gets to big and out of control and I can’t enjoy my knives. I think it’s wise to choose a team. I’m just in the back of my mind like it sucks the makers have bad reps but their knives prevail in my collection as the chosen ones.
I’m just curious because I recently started payment plan on Arizona Custom Knives for layaway for one of his Bowie knives. I had been eyeing it for a while now and finally was able to start a payment plan on it. It wasn’t until after I googled his name and saw this thread. You’d think I would have googled him being that way was eying this knife but all I went off of is seeing it on AZCK and being like “wow I want that Bowie” and just trusting that it’s a quality Bowie because it’s on the site.
I know I’m not dealing with Milan myself and my business is with AZCK but it does not make me feel good to support a maker who is a liar. Though I have to realize if I take notice of most of the maker’s of my knives are controversial yet I must have their knives. Such as Strider, Emerson, Chris Reeve even. People’s personalities can be abrasive and some might even have their integrity and word questioned but they have a notoriously successful product however that never excuses lying but also some people build their empires on lies.
Holy crap I’m rambling. I was just wondering what the situation was like an update and that I think it sucks I chose a Bowie made by a liar but damn it’s a nice Bowie. Im wrapping up my knife collection of about 11 knives, that’s my team. I had chosen that Bowie just looking at it and reading the description. I just found out about the maker’s lack of integrity recently though but I wonder if I still would have picked it up regardless. I’m not thinking resale value when I chose it, his reputation taking a dip and so it will probably depreciate I don’t know but I can’t afford to play this knife game where it gets to big and out of control and I can’t enjoy my knives. I think it’s wise to choose a team. I’m just in the back of my mind like it sucks the makers have bad reps but their knives prevail in my collection as the chosen ones.
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No, nothing since August last year.
As I said at the start of this thread, he does make very good knives. I wouldn't worry about buying one of his knives from a quality point of view. And I personally don't hold it against anyone who buys his products (I still own a couple). I just wouldn't advise anyone to order something to be made by him.
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So sorry to hear about this whole experience
Brummie
. Given his history, I wouldn’t trust anything he said at all, I wouldn’t trust his heat treat, his HRC claims, or anything else for that matter. 5 years of this utter nonsense is complete insanity and bs on his part and I would never trust this individual ever. Appreciate you making all of us aware to stay away from this individual.
Brummie
. Given his history, I wouldn’t trust anything he said at all, I wouldn’t trust his heat treat, his HRC claims, or anything else for that matter. 5 years of this utter nonsense is complete insanity and bs on his part and I would never trust this individual ever. Appreciate you making all of us aware to stay away from this individual.
This. If you can't trust him to act as an honest businessman, how can you trust him to be an honest knife maker?So sorry to hear about this whole experience
Doing a google search, it looks like Milan Mozolic is running a production company. He may not be making individual custom knives anymore. I don’t have Facebook or any other social media account, but I see a lot of pictures of Damascus steel patterned knives under his name. I would not trust the heat treat either.
Exactly. Amazing how when your moral compass is corrupted everything is tainted.
Bru,
I can’t contribute much except to say you are a gentleman. Like you in the good ole days the builds he made and fulfilled (two ground up orders) were all good, then he went off the rail. I can’t think of a worse place than on BladeForum to disappoint and having had people ordering his reasonably priced knives, WOW the consequences.
Here is a guy in his far away land, we have no sure sense of how making a living there is, I felt I was helping him out, plus the product was worth the cost and the waiting.
It could have gone better for him to bow out and find a partner to create more business, then return in good standing.
Pretty sad because we on this forum may have a trust for his story, there must be a STORY……
UPDATE: Milan sent me an email on Thursday (whether prompted by the renewed activity on this thread or not, I don’t know).
Reportedly, the knife is done and will be Fedexed by Wednesday next week. I’ve asked for a photo and tracking info.
If this time is any different from the last half dozen times the knife was mailed or about to be mailed, I’ll update the thread.
I also remain willing to reinstate the 2nd payment if I do get a quality product in line with the original order.
Reportedly, the knife is done and will be Fedexed by Wednesday next week. I’ve asked for a photo and tracking info.
If this time is any different from the last half dozen times the knife was mailed or about to be mailed, I’ll update the thread.
I also remain willing to reinstate the 2nd payment if I do get a quality product in line with the original order.
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Well, last week came and went. No photo, no tracking, no further communication. Feels like there just might be a pattern here . . .
Yeesh!
Exciting news - 5.5 years into my 3-month order, I've received a photo of a finished knife, and a Fedex tracking link for a parcel that should be delivered around the end of this week. Apparently, 7th time's a charm!
This is the same blade which Milan sent me photos of (as a blank) a year ago (see post #43 above), and which tested out at around 64 HRC. Now finished with a dark ironwood burl handle.
I'm not in the US at the moment, so it may be some time before I get to check it out in person, but will update this thread with my impressions when I do.
Update as of June 25 - knife & sheath arrived. I won't see it myself in person for some time, but it definitely does exist!
This is the same blade which Milan sent me photos of (as a blank) a year ago (see post #43 above), and which tested out at around 64 HRC. Now finished with a dark ironwood burl handle.
I'm not in the US at the moment, so it may be some time before I get to check it out in person, but will update this thread with my impressions when I do.
Update as of June 25 - knife & sheath arrived. I won't see it myself in person for some time, but it definitely does exist!
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I'm not quite sure I'll believe it til I actually have my hands on it, which may still be some time. But I'll be watching the tracking info carefully, and have folks at home send me some proof-of-life photos when it arrives.
And yes, I expect it to be great. As I said from the start, Milan does exceptional work, and to have a traditional piece in a modern high-performance steel (V4E) is a real treat. I haven't seen the sheath yet, but he also does good work on those.
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I do have to say that that is one gorgeous knife, f'ng beautiful...
Having said that, I'm curious here as well. Read a post in of the threads re. a buyer who didn't want his Mozolic knife after waiting three years and a couple PP disputes and said that it just felt tainted by having played out the way it did. Wondering how many are put off by that, or if the sheer beauty of them makes it worth it? I'm sure there is no right answer, we all like what we like and accept what we are willing to and there is no one size fits all here, but I've seen the same attitude with Survive as well (still don't get why they are more desirable than Busse or CPK for a SHTF knife).
Also curious if his knives are that well priced compared to more reliable makes here on BF, customs aren't really my thing so don't have a clue as to what an ABS certified maker charges compared to some of Milan's knives so wondering if it's worth dealing with this if the price point is that much better.
Brummie, edited out the feedback part, let me know if the above is too much of a threadjack and if you'd rather I'll start another or edit this one.
Winston
Edit... started a new thread re. the feedback question.
Having said that, I'm curious here as well. Read a post in of the threads re. a buyer who didn't want his Mozolic knife after waiting three years and a couple PP disputes and said that it just felt tainted by having played out the way it did. Wondering how many are put off by that, or if the sheer beauty of them makes it worth it? I'm sure there is no right answer, we all like what we like and accept what we are willing to and there is no one size fits all here, but I've seen the same attitude with Survive as well (still don't get why they are more desirable than Busse or CPK for a SHTF knife).
Also curious if his knives are that well priced compared to more reliable makes here on BF, customs aren't really my thing so don't have a clue as to what an ABS certified maker charges compared to some of Milan's knives so wondering if it's worth dealing with this if the price point is that much better.
Brummie, edited out the feedback part, let me know if the above is too much of a threadjack and if you'd rather I'll start another or edit this one.
Winston
Edit... started a new thread re. the feedback question.
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Usually it comes down to no one wanting to be “that guy” in the cases of obvious fraud, theft, etc. being “that guy” would be providing a valuable service to their fellow knife enthusiasts but that doesn’t seem to sway people. There’s also the almost as bad as the thief type that is willing to not say a bad word about someone because they’re getting a deal or freebies in exchange for keeping their mouths shut. See the many, many Facebook “influencers” for examples of those type of shills and enablers, and in some cases co-conspirators.
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When the maker has a large following and cult-like fanboys on Instagram, you're totally right.
I remember that same exact thing happening to Wanta Forge (Dylan Wanta).