I'm still laughing, this is great, thanks!!!! I agree wholeheartedly!
Ok, as a huge Tolkien fan, I have to ask you this, what is a down (I keep picturing the Barrow-Downs in my mind)? Is it a burial ground or something else? Thanks!
Minimalist camping without a fixed blade
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I'm still laughing, this is great, thanks!!!! I agree wholeheartedly!
Ok, as a huge Tolkien fan, I have to ask you this, what is a down (I keep picturing the Barrow-Downs in my mind)? Is it a burial ground or something else? Thanks!
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Look, I am not sure "essential" is even an appropriate word, given the degree of judgment involved. But here is a start on a list of folks who recommend a fixed blade knife for those who go into the wilderness:
http://www.instructables.com/id/10-essentials-for-wilderness-survival/ ("Fixed blade knives are ideal.")
http://www.wildernesssurvivalskills.org/essential-equipment-for-long-term-wilderness-survival/
http://www.wildernesscollege.com/survival-gear-list.html
http://www.thebugoutbagguide.com/wilderness-survival-kit-list/
http://survivalcache.com/wilderness-survival/
http://morethanjustsurviving.com/survival-gear-list/
http://offgridsurvival.com/101survivalgear/
https://gearjunkie.com/survival-gear-10-items-to-survive/2
http://survival-mastery.com/basics/survival-essentials.html
http://www.secretsofsurvival.com/survival/Top-10-Survival-Gear.html
https://www.raymears.com/Shop_By_Activity/Essential_Camping_Equipment/
http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/search/label/Knives
https://youtu.be/H6n9s-zlgfE
https://youtu.be/Lll-4jDAVzA
http://www.wildernesstoday.com/best-survival-knife/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/R19EV56ZZ0D1D2
http://americanbushman.blogspot.com/2008/03/what-to-carry-by-dave-canterbury.html
http://morethanjustsurviving.com/dual-survival-knife/
https://www.facebook.com/1245082475...4508247561387/359732390705637/?type=3&theater
http://www.outdoorcanada.ca/essential-outdoor-survival-gear
As to whether Mors, Ray, David, Lofty, and Las are "widely accepted" I leave to others.
Depends on where and the duration. I mostly pack out the dog's shit (I carry ziplocks and a shopping bag just for that) and bury mine (I carry a trowel just for that).Do NLT campers bag up their poop and bring it back for disposal, as with dogs at city parks?
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77377.How_to_Shit_in_the_Woods
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The definitions aren't truly mine. They are community formed and commonly accepted. You can accept them or not. Either way they will still be community formed and commonly accepted.
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Ah, sweet irony. When carrying ounces can apparently mean the difference between life and death, LNT ultra-lighters are carrying around their own feces in plastic bags, to throw in the trash, so that a huge petroleum-fueled truck can pick it up and bring it to a gigantic cat-hole filled with trash!
How about lists from those who have actually thru hikes the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, Pacific Northwest Trail, the Ouachita Trail, etc. With a focus on living in the backcountry vs preparing for a survival event.
Unless you ALWAYS carry a bushwhacking fixed blade, you will likely not have one on you in the unlikely event you find yourself in a survival situation.
Would you rather I just left the dog's shit where it lay so you can enjoy later? Perhaps I can even ensure its upstream from where you'll filter your water.Ah, sweet irony. When carrying ounces can apparently mean the difference between life and death, LNT ultra-lighters are carrying around their own feces in plastic bags, to throw in the trash, so that a huge petroleum-fueled truck can pick it up and bring it to a gigantic cat-hole filled with trash!
Ah, sweet irony. When carrying ounces can apparently mean the difference between life and death, LNT ultra-lighters are carrying around their own feces in plastic bags, to throw in the trash, so that a huge petroleum-fueled truck can pick it up and bring it to a gigantic cat-hole filled with trash!
Exactly. Plus they carry in mined hydrocarbons to boil & cook with.
HEET and denatured alcohol are mined hydrocarbons?
Regardless, a white gas or alcohol stove won't leave evidence it was ever fired up and used.
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I think it's very polite of you to not leave dog poop in the middle of a well-used trail or campsite. Cats are a bit more polite than that, hence a "cat-hole."
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What would you suggest? A wood fire in this this forest on that day?
Truthfully, I'd suggest camping here instead:
Truthfully, I'd suggest camping here instead:What would you suggest? A wood fire in this this forest on that day?
I've hiked and camped in both of those environments. Why limit your enjoyment of the outdoors by season, terrain, or geography?
First time I took my son camping when he was a tot was on Bellows on the windward side of Oahu. More than 20 years later he took the top pic above on one of our outings in the mountains of Virginia.
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I guess it's just that there is no limit to my enjoyment of tropical waters, but cold, wet and/or hungry instantly becomes no fun to me. :]
You don't have to be cold, wet, or hungry. We weren't that day.
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True...and no mosquitos.
I would bring a fixed blade big enough to split coconuts in either environment.
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..... yes it is, Western NSW in the best season (rain wise) is the past 30yrs I think. Funny you say that, I collected a bunch of bites from gnats or the like that blistered when I topped them with some sunburn. All things considered the Western Brown Snakes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonaja_nuchalis) that abound here are a bit more of a worry, though I did only see the one this trip.
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Sodak, Downs are just rolling chalk hills. Wikipedia explains well. Lots of little hamlets with thatch cottages and weatherboard houses. Cider making and hops farming; plenty of pubs too. Pretty idilic, so perfect for Tolkiens Shire.
Changed a bit since the book was written. Tommy fighting in the trenches of WW1 was doing so to defend the shires... pretty England.
Watership Down, rabbits, was also set on the Downs. The place is heaving with rabbits.
In Wales and The Lake District some of the most famous walks are seeing the florna change due to the amount of people who drop banana skins and apple cores. Basically people are carrying up minerals and matter that does not exist on top of these hills. Other than cutting paths into the hill side they are changing the habitat from their waste products. Biodegradable for sure, but too much in the wrong place.
The other one is carry a stone to the top to the point there are huge piles.
Really doesn't take much.
Changed a bit since the book was written. Tommy fighting in the trenches of WW1 was doing so to defend the shires... pretty England.
Watership Down, rabbits, was also set on the Downs. The place is heaving with rabbits.
In Wales and The Lake District some of the most famous walks are seeing the florna change due to the amount of people who drop banana skins and apple cores. Basically people are carrying up minerals and matter that does not exist on top of these hills. Other than cutting paths into the hill side they are changing the habitat from their waste products. Biodegradable for sure, but too much in the wrong place.
The other one is carry a stone to the top to the point there are huge piles.
Really doesn't take much.
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