Modern GEC Hybrid Line

I really like your idea. Personally, most of GEC's knives have bored me lately. A stag knife with micarta bolsters would look really good.
 
EyeDog said:
Just my feeling that the 'traditional' has a certain place in the knife world and companies like GEC can carry that forward to others.

Mike
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Ok, I agree with you... Partially. I really enjoy traditionals and love what GEC does. I also like that people of my generation still have a company like them making quality examples. I just wish there was a widely available evolution of the style. Right now it's limited to customs, which are fine if you have $500+ to blow and want to wait 6-12 months. Otherwise an orange g10 single blade trapper just doesn't exist. There's plenty of companies turning out the stag variety though.
 
I'm planning a Zulu spear in CPM20CV once my Dart EDC batch is done. But production companies runing steel like that? Maybe, maybe not.
 
ATwistedStaple said:
Ok, I agree with you... Partially. I really enjoy traditionals and love what GEC does. I also like that people of my generation still have a company like them making quality examples. I just wish there was a widely available evolution of the style. Right now it's limited to customs, which are fine if you have $500+ to blow and want to wait 6-12 months. Otherwise an orange g10 single blade trapper just doesn't exist. There's plenty of companies turning out the stag variety though.
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Canal Street made half moon trappers with 14-4 Cro-mo steel and micarta covers. Sounds exactly like what you want.
 
Personally I would be very happy with a model 72 or 73 in 440C. I am not convinced that the powdered steel blades realistically give me better performance than a carbon steel or even 420hc Buck knives. My knives are far from heavy use.
 
It might work if GEC formed a new company a la Northfield and Tidioute -old company names run by a single organisation and producing distinguishably different products on the same frame. Errr what I mean is say a 47 Viper from Northfield(the high end range) is built different to a Tidioute (the discount range) with different handle choices. Are they gunna do that? Probably not for the logistical reasons abovementioned.
But hey-I'm such a moderns noob that I had to search up what emerald silver twill is.Not to my taste at all.
Rough Rider for the handle and trapper style maybe but I doubt you would get super steel from them.
I seem to remember someone suggesting a firemans #73 with fire hose micarta scales about a year ago. I was mega keen on that but it simply dropped off the radar. Someone even did a lay up with the fire hose micarta .
I like the idea but I'd say Case not GEC.

gotta love a bit of controversy.:)
 
ATwistedStaple said:
I like the custom maker trend of using modern handle materials and blade steels in traditional knives. I've been on the lookout for a slippie with Emerald Silver Twill forever it seems.

I'm pretty sure there's a largely untapped market for a production line in the same vein. Case makes some G10 models, but I don't trust their QC enough to ever buy one online. What I'd like to see is GEC coming out with a new line of knives of this type. G10, Glass Fiber, Carbon Fiber, M390, S35VN, etc. Hopefully if we can show enough support for such a line it'll happen. Hence the thread.

What do we think folks?

Personally I want to see a single blade #92 with Orange G10 or a #42 with Emerald Silver Twill first.

I've mentioned the idea to GEC and the good folks at KnivesShipFree.com. Time to put some pressure on.

PS: I quite like 1095 and don't really care much about the use of higher end powdered stuff, but I think it might help the line succeed. What do we think?
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I have no desire for GEC to go down that road.

If you're trying to rally folks here (the majority of whom love "the tradition" in traditional pocket knives) to "put some pressure" on Bill Howard to change his vision... a vision that's been in the making longer than some forum members have been alive... well, you've got a long row to hoe.

If you want to know why that is, I recommend reading Great Eastern Cutlery by David Anthony and watching the "GEC Tour" video by "Crawford County Outdoors" (it's on YouTube), and hanging out on the porch for a spell longer.
 
They already use micarta.

Just making more knives in 440C would be a start.

I don't own any of theirs in stainless.
 
supratentorial said:
A custom services provider on the Bladeforums Exchange could swap out the handle materials on any knife you want. There are a lot of guys doing really nice work.
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This actually seems like it would be the perfect thing for the OP. You want a GEC with modern handle materials and don't care too much about super steels? Hit up one of the expert modders that lurk here and I'm sure they could hook you up with some new covers on one of your GECs. It'd probably end up costing less than what GEC would charge to do it at the factory anyways. Shoot me a PM if you need the name of some of our resident modders.
 
I always thought it would be kind of cool if someone made a line of knives that had traditional materials in tactical designs and tactical materials in traditional designs. Flipper with brass bolsters and jigged bone handles? Stockman with anodized Ti bolsters and lightning-strike carbon fiber scales?

For some reason I think that would be epically awesome.
 
ATwistedStaple said:
Ok, I agree with you... Partially. I really enjoy traditionals and love what GEC does. I also like that people of my generation still have a company like them making quality examples. I just wish there was a widely available evolution of the style. Right now it's limited to customs, which are fine if you have $500+ to blow and want to wait 6-12 months. Otherwise an orange g10 single blade trapper just doesn't exist. There's plenty of companies turning out the stag variety though.
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Jim Dunlap or Gene Wiseman can make you a single blade trapper in Orange G-10, with CPM 154 or CPM D2 for under $300 in a few months at most.
 
I don't think any of you are getting it. Perhaps I just need to look into starting my own company. I don't want an Orange G-10 trapper in M390. I don't want a Barlow in carbon fiber and super blue in 3 months for $200 after a few emails with a modder. I want the existence of a company that offers all of these things to dealers who keep them in stock. I want what GEC does now, but with different materials.

I like stag and smooth bone as much as the rest of you, but that's already being done. No sense discussing it as a new business plan for anyone. Clearly this wasn't the right demographic to address.

Also, I'm kind of in the same mindset that the modern powdered steels aren't worth the trouble or expense, but in my experience most people who want to pay $175 for carbon fiber handles would rather pay $225 for carbon fiber AND super steel.
 
ATwistedStaple said:
I don't think any of you are getting it. Perhaps I just need to look into starting my own company. I don't want an Orange G-10 trapper in M390. I don't want a Barlow in carbon fiber and super blue in 3 months for $200 after a few emails with a modder. I want the existence of a company that offers all of these things to dealers who keep them in stock. I want what GEC does now, but with different materials.

I like stag and smooth bone as much as the rest of you, but that's already being done. No sense discussing it as a new business plan for anyone. Clearly this wasn't the right demographic to address.

Also, I'm kind of in the same mindset that the modern powdered steels aren't worth the trouble or expense, but in my experience most people who want to pay $175 for carbon fiber handles would rather pay $225 for carbon fiber AND super steel.
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It sounds like you have all the answers to questions that no one is asking. Good luck with your future endeavors.
 
EyeDog said:
Just my feeling that the 'traditional' has a certain place in the knife world and companies like GEC can carry that forward to others.

Mike
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I agree with Mike even though I do not own a GEC knife. They are very pretty traditional knives in my opinion.

My husband and I have looked at them online many times. He still carries a traditional pocket knife every single day and he does not have hand arthritis. He may (?) get one for our anniversary but he will pick out exactly what he wants!

Cate
 
ATwistedStaple said:
I like the custom maker trend of using modern handle materials and blade steels in traditional knives. I've been on the lookout for a slippie with Emerald Silver Twill forever it seems.

I'm pretty sure there's a largely untapped market for a production line in the same vein. Case makes some G10 models, but I don't trust their QC enough to ever buy one online. What I'd like to see is GEC coming out with a new line of knives of this type. G10, Glass Fiber, Carbon Fiber, M390, S35VN, etc. Hopefully if we can show enough support for such a line it'll happen. Hence the thread.

What do we think folks?

Personally I want to see a single blade #92 with Orange G10 or a #42 with Emerald Silver Twill first.

I've mentioned the idea to GEC and the good folks at KnivesShipFree.com. Time to put some pressure on.

PS: I quite like 1095 and don't really care much about the use of higher end powdered stuff, but I think it might help the line succeed. What do we think?
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Reading just the bolded text, there seems to be some ambiguity. Folks registered their thoughts, now it seems you don't like where this discussion led. This is, after all, the traditional sub forum, a place to enjoy traditional knives. GEC for many fans, is a kind of grail send, an anachronistic reincarnation of something that was missing in the knife world, so any suggestions of rocking the boat will result in some lukewarm responses. I speak from experience on this matter, as a thread I started about why doesn't GEC produce more knives in 440C taught me some lessons about these things. I think you are seeking something which probably can only be achieved through a custom build type scenario, with back and forth discussion between you and the maker regarding materials and style.

To expect any manufacturer to produce something with a particularly distinctive feature, like the Emerald Silver Twill, is kind of ludicrous really. GEC does produce knives in Micarta, and some wonderful examples in acrylic. They do seem to march to their own drum, and that is part of the charm of their product. If you want something really particular, the great thing is that today you can make it happen, but not at a price point comparable to off the shelf regular production product. Then again, that was never really a possibility at any time, or any place.
 
ATwistedStaple said:
Plus, the point of the thread isn't to discuss whether or not you THINK they will, but whether or not you want them to.
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Nope, no interest whatsoever.

Modoc ED said:
I think you should seek out a custom maker to make that slip joint with Emerald Silver Twill that you've been looking for forever.
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Good suggestion :thumbup:

ATwistedStaple said:
I'd just like to see something like what Davison puts out, but at production knife prices and availability.
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As Sitflyer said, "Good luck with that." :thumbup:

ATwistedStaple said:
Thanks. Before you said that I thought I was in charge of the thread. Couldn't find the form to reprimand these posters for the life of me. Demerits even!
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:D

ATwistedStaple said:
I don't think any of you are getting it.
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ATwistedStaple said:
Clearly this wasn't the right demographic to address.
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I think you're probably right on both counts there :thumbup:
 
I think the knives GEC currently produce are just fine.

I just want them to use more matchstrike pulls and give me a 93ot on the GEC 82 frame.
 
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