Mossberg Shotguns

While I am not crazy about their service, I find MY 590 to be vastly superior to any Remington that I have ever shot, but it is not smoother.

I have had one jam, changed the follower to orange plastic, and have had no further problems. It is weighted correctly for me, and once Hans Vang did his massaging, is accurate as all getout. I replaced the "cheap plastic safety" on mine as well, I had a500 20ga. once where the safety lever cracked.

I have a Vang comp'ed Gunsite Police model 1187. It is a wonderful social shotgun. ;)

However, I don't think a customized shotgun is a fair comparison to a factroy stock shotgun. If you have the money for one of Hans Vang's shotguns, then you wouldn't be considering a ~$200-250 model.
 
On a related note, how do people rate the Benelli Nova shotguns? Admittedly, I would like to find an old Ithaca Model 37 police model but, they seem to be a rare finds these days. The Benelli Nova pump seems to share some of the same features. The dual action bars seem very smooth and should be less likely to bind. The aluminum and plastic components seem to be of high quality so, that is less chance for corrosion in a pickup beater model. And, bottom eject for the shells seems like a good idea too.

And, Benelli has the Marine shotgun contract (though not with this specific model). ;)
 
On a related note, how do people rate the Benelli Nova shotguns? Admittedly, I would like to find an old Ithaca Model 37 police model but, they seem to be a rare finds these days. The Benelli Nova pump seems to share some of the same features. The dual action bars seem very smooth and should be less likely to bind. The aluminum and plastic components seem to be of high quality so, that is less chance for corrosion in a pickup beater model. And, bottom eject for the shells seems like a good idea too.

And, Benelli has the Marine shotgun contract (though not with this specific model). ;)

In the shop I work at, Benelli is most sought after by hardcore shotgun lovers. They are about as good as it gets without going custom. Benelli specializes in shotguns and they make a keen product. You pay for them though. But dollar for dollar, and after reading tons online today, I dont think you can beat the Mossberg500. Its not PERFECT but its reliable from what I have read and very economical as far as price goes. But yea, Benelli's are top notch.


Then again i am sure that there are guys who have mossbergs and remingtons that they would put up against a benelli and would hold up just the same...
 
mossy might have been the low bidder but if the gun wouldnt even fire a case of shells and not break i would like to think we wouldnt purchase it for our military, surely they wouldnt do that.

i have had several buds with mossys and i have at least 2 of them myself, and never a problem, sure i like my remington 1100 better for most stuff, my 870 too, but the mossbergs i have been around all fired just fine.

if ya had one that was total junk i would say its the exception rather than the rule, a bad experience with them would probably turn me off too though so i see were ya are coming from.
 
Just got back on. I have not put many rounds thru it, I load4 rounds of 4 shot in the tube. I wanted it only for H.D. I have both an 870 and 1100 for hunting. My theory is someone hearing the action working will get the message..........................
 
Just got back on. I have not put many rounds thru it, I load4 rounds of 4 shot in the tube. I wanted it only for H.D. I have both an 870 and 1100 for hunting. My theory is someone hearing the action working will get the message..........................

Very true Soren. And in that case, the Mossberg and Remington, hell, any shotgun, make that noise.. and in that case, all it really requires is for whatever gun youhave to fire when you pull the trigger because WHEN you do, carnage is going to follow.... I really cant even imagine a double alt buck shot fired in a hall way or stairwell. whew.
 
That is why I am suprised so many people talk about a pistol for H.D. First itsmuch more difficult for the average person to hit what they are shooting at (esp. in the middle of the night) and if you miss, the bullet enda up going thru your house and God knows where! Don't get me wrong, for many folks a pistol is fine, but for the average Joe, I don't think you can beat a shotgun for home defense. Number 4 shot will go thru 1 layer of drywall and stop.
 
the mossberg 500 is a very reliable economical shotgun that with proper care and feeding will last a long time. that being said i'm an 870 man myself. You can pick up used 870 express very reasonbly at a gun show and use the money saved to pick up an extra barrel. that way you have the short useless home defense barrel {18 - 21"} and you have the full length barrel with screw in chokes to go shoot ducks, quail or just whatever needs shooting. later, ahgar
 
The shotgun is the best home defense weapon in the world, I know that much. And also worth noting, double alt buck is about the only thing you can go toe to toe with against someone with a FA weapon. if the invader or attacker has a FA firearm, unless you are a criminal illegally owning a FA weapon or a licensed Class III holder, you should have a shotgun, 12 gauge, double alt buck. I just hope no one breaks into my apartment because the drywall and walls are so damned thin... 12 gauge double alt buck will kill my neighbors 3 doors down.
 
The shotgun is the best home defense weapon in the world, I know that much. And also worth noting, double alt buck is about the only thing you can go toe to toe with against someone with a FA weapon. if the invader or attacker has a FA firearm, unless you are a criminal illegally owning a FA weapon or a licensed Class III holder, you should have a shotgun, 12 gauge, double alt buck. I just hope no one breaks into my apartment because the drywall and walls are so damned thin... 12 gauge double alt buck will kill my neighbors 3 doors down.


How is it that you always manage to post the most idiotic mall-ninja drivel I have ever read?

BTW, It is called "double aught buck" if you feel some need to spell it out. Otherwise known as #00.

"Alt" is a key on your keyboard.
 
Aught. thanks. How is anything I posted "mall ninja"? Isnt what i posted reality, should the gun be fired in the circumstances i listed?
 
And also worth noting, double alt buck is about the only thing you can go toe to toe with against someone with a FA weapon. if the invader or attacker has a FA firearm, unless you are a criminal illegally owning a FA weapon or a licensed Class III holder, you should have a shotgun, 12 gauge, double alt buck. I just hope no one breaks into my apartment because the drywall and walls are so damned thin... 12 gauge double alt buck will kill my neighbors 3 doors down.

this part- basically the entire thing. I do agree that a shotgun is a good home defence weapon. The rest? All one can judge a person by online is what they write.

You have an annoying tendency to nibble on little bits of subjects, then regurgitate sweeping generalities ad infinitum, even though you don't have a clue.

For previous reference, your Obsession with ATC and MBC, and your idiotic thread about gun control. If you don't want people to think you are clueless, why do you post the evidence?
 
Rat, i am not "obsessed" with anything. I do like ATC and enjoy reading up on MBC. You say that I am "clueless" based on the fact that I disagree with you on certain things. That doesnt warrant "clueless" in my opinion, just a difference in opinion which is perfectly fine.
 
Rat, i am not "obsessed" with anything. I do like ATC and enjoy reading up on MBC. You say that I am "clueless" based on the fact that I disagree with you on certain things. That doesnt warrant "clueless" in my opinion, just a difference in opinion which is perfectly fine.

You have not been reading your own posts, I take it? :confused:

Clueless is a bit of an understatement. By definition, those mired in a perpetual clueless state are unaware of that fact.

"Clueless about being clueless" it is a moribund mindset.
 
Trying to get water out of a dry well is pointless.

Feel free to start up a thread in W&C detailing how you actually do have a clue if you want.

Denial is the first step towards acceptance.
 
My first home defense guage was an 870 Police that also had a Pachmayar Vindicator pistol grip kit along with the wooden stock. Pistol grip is very easy to whip around but is very uwieldly when firing and recoil and control was not worth "the look". I kept the standard wooden shoulder stock on it. Sold it when I needed some cash and someone wanted a cool looking all black 12 guage.

Later I picked up a Mossberg 590 in a trade. Decent gun, held a fair amount of ammo and overall was a reliable gun. I found it a little too big for a house gun so I traded it off for a Remington 03-A3. It was a great jackrabbit gun.

Sometime later, I had some extra cash and prior to Y2k (remember that one?), I thought to beef up the homefront with another scattergun and found a good deal on Mossberg's "economy" line, if it's not already inexpensive enough. It's the Maverick 88. Since it sits stored most of the time, I couldn't see spending the wad on one so for about 150 bucks, it's turned out to be something I'll probably keep. Looks to be the same action as the 500 and the only real difference I can see is it has a cross bolt safety like a Remington rather than the typical Mosseberg tang safety. It also accepts the standard Mossberg barrels and accessories if you want tha "cool" look...

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Nice picture hatchetjack. The mossberg i was looking at was the one with the pistol grip so its size definitely wouldnt be too big.

Rat - get a life. encouraging me to start something on an internet forum shows that you have no life and troll on blade forums in some attempt to make yourself feel better. I pity the fool that gets off to knocking people on a "knife forum" of all places.... by calling them mall ninjas when they disagree, then as some cheap portrayal of how "hard" they are, they invite you to W&C to pick an online fight or to talk more crap. Hey RAT, if you dont like my threads, how bout staying off of them. Aside from your shotgun which appeared to be nice, your advice hasnt been worth a dime. So its real easy pal. If you dont like my threads. Do not post in them. Have a great day.
 
Maybe my point needs to be boiled down to the nitty gritty. . .

in the form of a one line poem:

Nothing wrong with this thread, everything's wrong with your head.
 
And also worth noting, double alt buck is about the only thing you can go toe to toe with against someone with a FA weapon. if the invader or attacker has a FA firearm, unless you are a criminal illegally owning a FA weapon or a licensed Class III holder, you should have a shotgun, 12 gauge, double alt buck.

You're fantasizing about being attacked in your apartment by "invaders" with submachineguns??? :jerkit:
 
No I wasnt fantasizing about anything. What is it with you and your tag team boy Rat? "obsessed" "fantasizing"???? You and Rat's words. Once again, I am correct. You just dont like to admit that it is fact that the only thing that will allow one to have a chance against a FA weapon is a shotgun. But rather than do the noble thing and contribute to the thread, you and Rat wanna start crap and blow things out of proportion.
 
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