Most knife unfriendly places?

Originally posted by Chief_Wiggum
Statue of Liberty.

I took my Emerson to the Statue of Liberty, and when I saw all the signs saying No Weapons (I guess pens and pencils are out too:) I decided I'd do the responsible thing and declare my knife rather than trying to put it in my bag and try to take it through the x-ray machine. I had hoped that maybe they would give me a claim ticket and hold it for me (the Empire State building does this btw).

But oh no! The security guard says, "We're going to have to confiscate this". I say "Oh no you're not" and walk out before the Federal Park officer can make it over. I hid my knife in some bushes in the park and went back through.

What irks me the most about this experience is that Liberty Island is easliy accessible by any idiot with a boat. So if someone decided to attack the people on the island there really wouldn't be anything stopping them.

So while I'm walking around the park, how many park officers do you think I saw there to protect me. That's right. NONE.

If the government won't let me protect myself they should at least make an effort to do it for me.
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Oh man, sounds like you had the exact same experience I did. Did you hide your knife in a little hollow in the base of a tree a little way past Castle Clinton? What a coincidence if you did. :eek: Check this link to see my experience in the same situation. :barf:

Ash
 
Ash,

That's crazy! I think they must make a business out of confiscating knives. I didn't use the tree, I used some bushes right outside the castle. Anyone looking to find some nice knives, just check Battery Park, lol :)

I case you couldn't tell I was really infuriated. How ironic, going to see the monument that stands for freedom and liberty, but being denied any those exact rights.
 
Originally posted by yog
Not only do I live in the UK, widely known as one of the most knife unfreindly countries in the world.
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Amen to that. I mentioned in a past thread a copper mate of mine who tried to confiscate my SAK cos he thinks its a weapon. Saying that I'm currently on clinical placement in hospital and carry my leatherman everyday on my belt beneath my tunic and no one seems to care.
but the most knife unfriendly place I've been in are secure mental health units. even dinner knives; count them out, count them in.
D.
 
Good Afternoon All-

MSCHWOEB, good initial post.... What is making day-to-day travel difficult is the sheer randomness on how these rules may be applied to you or others in your sightseeing party.

For example, your knife may be legal in the movie theater, ferry, and museum, but not in the restaurant or the park. The knife may be legal at 60 Main Street but not at 100 Broadway up the street. Some places have metal detectors, and some don't. The really frustrating part of the situation is that your trusty EDC is likely 100% legal in the eyes of the law in ALL of the examples given! :grumpy:

In my personal situation, I'm a business professional who has to dress crisply each day to meet with clients in similar environs. Each day I have to ask myself, "Hmmm, can I bring my Mini-AFCK today because I think that the Smith Building had metal detectors installed three weeks ago..." Customers aren't too happy when you have to cancel a meeting via cell phone from their lobby because you can't obtain entrance due to a small knife. Needless to say, the follow-up question becomes, "Why would my vendor try to visit me with a knife, anyway?" Sheeple, sheesh!

Sadly, in pursuit of "reduced hassle factor," friends and family may ask you to leave knives at home to prevent difficulties. I'm getting very long-winded here, but that is exactly how peoples' spirit gets broken. Annoy, bother, hassle, and confiscate and they'll eventually cave-in to draconian regulations.

EXCELLENT TOPIC!

~ Blue Jays ~
 
Good Evening All-

P.S. Don't even bother to "telephone ahead" to see what the regulations are for different sites.

Asking about metal detectors or "permission" to bring knives/guns will immediately be met by a "VERBOTEN" response.

In a worst-case-scenario, it might inspire locations without these precautions to consider them.

~ Blue Jays ~

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I was issued a Police report deeming that my Scallion is legal, so incase of possible arrest or confication of a Spring Assited knife I can appeal it with this legal document. I reccomend when traveling keep some legal documents (in a bag that you'll be carrying with you, not at the hotel) drafted by a lawyer or a LEO. Deeming that your Spring Assited knife isn't a Gravity knife or a switchblade. This would come in handy much at a Security check point in museum or a Government buliding, but it would come in handy during customs or if your subjected to a Police search.

And for the record you can carry a knife up to 4" in NYC as long as it isn't an Automatic and it is capabale of folding. Balisongs are also legal. But a direct Gravity knife is banned.

In Canada you can carry any knife (expect an Auto, Bali or Gravity) fixed, folding, any size... what ever as long as a Police officer doesn't think your carrying it as a weapon. (In those "Unfriendly places" you can't carry any knife though).
 
A buddy of mine had to hide his SAK to get into see the Liberty Bell. On the other hand, in 2001 I did a year of Grand Jury duty and wore a Buck 110 on my belt every time I went and didn't even raise an eyebrow (Maine).
 
Well, i would have to say, the most knife unfriendly place was the house i grew up in in NJ with my mother, who was and remains very anti-knife/gun.

I recall buying a really neat Puma fixed, military type knife in NYC when i was very young, maybe 10 years old, and playing with it when my mom was at work, when she got home, i was lying on my bed, innocent as an angel, only problem was, i had forgotten that i left the knife sticking into the side of my dresser, well, last time i ever saw that knife! Then, i fell in love with a Cold Steel knife i saw in a knife mag, again i was about 10 or so, i ordered it, but being young, i didnt know you werent supposed to send cash, which i did, never saw the knife, it was years later i discovered the knife had in fact arrived, and was secretly intercepted by mom and thrown in the garbage. I remember yet another time that my dad, who didnt live with me, had brought me back a tiny little SAK from a trip to Europe, my mother confiscated it. So, when i was 18, and realized i could legally buy any rifle or shotgun i wanted, let alone knives up the butt, take a wild guess what i did. Yup, bought TONS of them, and still do, so, in a sense, i have Mom to thank for that! :)

When i moved out and had my own place, i took great pleasure, perverse to be sure, in making it a point to show my mother the various rifles and other weapons i had in my house, i was particularly gleeful when i showed her my newly acquired Uzi, the look on her face was priceless. :)
 
The Staples Center (where the Lakers and Kings play) has a pretty lame weapons policy too. Same with Dodger Stadium and, I hear, Disneyland.
 
During an encounter with the the Disney "Goof Troop" security at the entrance gate to EPCOT, I was informed that pocketknives with blades no more than 3" in length are allowed on Disney property. They waved me and my deadly Leatherman Wave thru after making sure it fit their criteria.:rolleyes:

BTW,
this is for Disneyworld in Florida. I'm not sure whether this pertains to Disney Land in Kalifornia.
 
Well, the nice folks at Disney in FL dont (yet) strip search or pat you down, and you'd be surprised how invisible a Kel-Tec P32 is in your front pocket. Not that i would ever bring a (gasp!) gun into Disney, I would never disrespect Micky Mouse that way, I'm just saying it can be done if youre so inclined and for some odd reason dont enjoy being defenseless... :)
 
LOL!
Good point, Megalobyte.
I often bring my Sifu along in me RF pocket and my ever present Axis AFCK in the LF. The Leatherman incident happened because I forgot about it in my fannypack which they do search. If they'd looked in the holster portion of the fannypack, they would've seen my Cold Steel large Vacquero. Imagine the looks on their faces when that 5" bladed, fully serrated Nogales pattern baby came out.:eek:
Hey Loosee! Looks like you got some 'splainin' to do!

All the best,
Mike U.
 
Maybe this is off topic but at least a some of the school districts in south Georgia now allow knives with 2" blades. Back on topic, the most restrictive place I have been for knives, other the the usual airports, courthouses, etc. is Washington, D.C. I love the Smithsonian but avoid it now because of the security nonsense. In fact, I dropped my membership and sent them a letter explaining why. Never did get a response though. I did have a security guard at a local venue say he was going to confiscate my knife, then he saw my Walther PPK. ;) He decided to just ask me nicely to put the items in my car.
 
The Vatican Museum! Large men with Berettas told me that I couldn't take my SAK Swisschamp in. There wasn't even a Swiss guard to argue with....

maximus otter
 
I live in the UK and personally i don't think the knife laws are that bad...it's the same old thing...you can carry a folding knife with a blade less than 3inches in length...which is quite sensible since if you really need to use a blade, 3 inches is enough...

so what else do you need? as long as you can prove to 'em that you're not using it as a weapon that's alright...

of course sometimes i do carry my BM721...which is a tad over 3 inches...but they never check you anyway...

i always have a back up plan...if i'm carrying a SAK i plan to tell the coppers that i was on my way to Argos to buy some flat packed shelving units and i need to have the knife to open up the box...of course if i do get locked up or something then my plan to become a forensic scientist is F"£"$$ to pieces...

thank you sir...have a nice day...
 
Got to be New South Wales Australia. Since 1998 in NSW you cannot carry any knife in public unless you have a good reason (extremely unlikely that anyone like you or me could have a good reason). Police are allowed to search you if you look suspicious (no, they don't need a reason). Police can also break up groups of 3 or more people (again, they don't need a reason)

Federal Government has completely outlawed:
double edged blades, balisongs, automatics including any kind of spring assistance, sale of any knife to anyone under the age of 18. Anyone breaking these laws??? Fines are crippling and while jail terms are not currently very harsh, theres been moves to increase sentences 10 fold (no, that's not an exageration).

Democracy? Not for long.
 
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