Most overrated knife?

Haze said:
Not sure to be honest,

I cant see it being too over the top as its just half a knife :p

I would probably expect to pay ~$100 give or take.
The blade will have to be hand ground and fitted, you will also have to eat the cost of
materials right off the bat so its always going to cost more than a "factory made" balde.
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that's not tearable. might be worth it to pick up a real beat up emerson and try having that done to it
 
Too many people are entranced by the latest and greatest. The older steels are known quantities when it comes to plentiful supply at decent prices, heat treating, and solid performance. Newer steels might be better, but at what cost to the manufacturer having to start the learning curve on a new steel and another new steel and another new steel? When the 154CM performs so well, it's vanity alone that would play with anything else.

Of course there are companies like Kershaw and Spyderco that do very well with a multiplicity of steels and new designs. Emerson is in the business of making a different sort of knife, and he does it very well. But since his business model doesn't track someone's favorite other company's, someone will feel Emerson is "wrong". That's narrow-minded, short-sighted, and probably due to lack of experience with the Emerson (or Strider or other knives) being criticized.

One thing I value in the Emerson model is the stability of the same steel and the same G-10 with liners and the same liner lock. That means when I get a new Emerson, the difference is in the new design alone, and I can work out the advantages of it without having to factor in materials and technology. These knives are for using, not showing off.

(Got a CQC12 framelock, can't complain about those differences! :D)
 
I've got a couple of Emersons, and like them a lot. The only reason I wouldn't buy any more knives from them is because they are not left hand friendly. Spyderco and Benchmade do a better job for the lefties like myself, so they get my money. :)
 
Not that Big Ern doesn't clearly know what he's doing with 154CM, but a part of me would love do see him do a blade in D2, just for the curiosity of it. I'm guessing that D2 probably isn't corrosion resistant enough for his intended clientele, though.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Too many people are entranced by the latest and greatest. The older steels are known quantities when it comes to plentiful supply at decent prices, heat treating, and solid performance. Newer steels might be better, but at what cost to the manufacturer having to start the learning curve on a new steel and another new steel and another new steel? When the 154CM performs so well, it's vanity alone that would play with anything else.

Of course there are companies like Kershaw and Spyderco that do very well with a multiplicity of steels and new designs. Emerson is in the business of making a different sort of knife, and he does it very well. But since his business model doesn't track someone's favorite other company's, someone will feel Emerson is "wrong". That's narrow-minded, short-sighted, and probably due to lack of experience with the Emerson (or Strider or other knives) being criticized.

One thing I value in the Emerson model is the stability of the same steel and the same G-10 with liners and the same liner lock. That means when I get a new Emerson, the difference is in the new design alone, and I can work out the advantages of it without having to factor in materials and technology. These knives are for using, not showing off.

(Got a CQC12 framelock, can't complain about those differences! :D)
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As my Dad would say, " If it ain't broke, don't fix it " ;)
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Too many people are entranced by the latest and greatest. The older steels are known quantities when it comes to plentiful supply at decent prices, heat treating, and solid performance. Newer steels might be better, but at what cost to the manufacturer having to start the learning curve on a new steel and another new steel and another new steel? When the 154CM performs so well, it's vanity alone that would play with anything else...
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Exactly my sentiment. Having been exposed to a large variety of steels, I have come to see 154CM as a great steel with known characteristics. I really don't require anything more. If asked for an alternative steel, considering toughness, edge holding and corrosion resistance, I would go with CPM154.
 
APF---Yup! FWIW, On my latest folder, I had a choice of the CPM's, S30V or 154-CM. I chose the latter.
 
WoodenChicken said:
I've got a couple of Emersons, and like them a lot. The only reason I wouldn't buy any more knives from them is because they are not left hand friendly. Spyderco and Benchmade do a better job for the lefties like myself, so they get my money. :)
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Emerson now has Wrong handed / Left Handed knives.
 
WoodenChicken said:
I've got a couple of Emersons, and like them a lot. The only reason I wouldn't buy any more knives from them is because they are not left hand friendly. Spyderco and Benchmade do a better job for the lefties like myself, so they get my money. :)
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they offer left handed knives but i think you have to order them strait from EKI
 
folderfan2093 said:
which one did you get?
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I got a CQC-7. And for your other question, before I would have said something like S30v as a steel I would have preferred. I think there might be some custom Emersons that have this steel but I could be wrong. But after playing with my knife a lot now I think 154cm is perfect for this knife.
 
Monnymac said:
I got a CQC-7. And for your other question, before I would have said something like S30v as a steel I would have preferred. I think there might be some custom Emersons that have this steel but I could be wrong. But after playing with my knife a lot now I think 154cm is perfect for this knife.
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I have never heard of an EKI with S30V.

There is some older customs from way back in the day with ATS34 IIRC, there is also some customs with damascus and a very few Ti blades but other than that its all 154cm.
 
i dont think emerson made anything in S30V...............and 154 and '34 are about the same thing, except the '34 is from japan, ya probably know that though haze.

emersons and striders seem to inspire either love or hate in folks imho a lotta folks read about liner lock problems on the net yrs ago and still wanna ride that dead horse so they have something to harp about even though imho most have never even seen an emerson much less handled one lol.

i know i have had hundreds of knives thru the yrs and have tried virtually every thing out there, and i always go back to emerson, that must mean something.

prior to '03 or '04 they did have a rough finish somethimes and a few also had lock issues but thats all in the past now.

do some still have liner lock issues? sure every brand has defects, but its not a big problem anymore imho,

another issue is the grinds, folks cant learn/dont wanna learn new things and cant sharpen them and get them sharp so ya aget the "ya cant get them sharp" BS, or in some cases they just dont care for CG's, which is imho really what most all of them are regardless of what EKI wants to call them, while its not really a con (at least to me) even as much as i love EKI's i dont think its a pro and a std "V" grind imho wouldnt be a bad thing, if i had a nickle for every person who has posted they bought a commander expecting a std 'v' and were disappointed i could buy a commander, if not 2 lol.

so many high dollar knives are hot sellers i dont think price has anything at all to do with anything, i suppose they might be a tad overpriced but so are a lotta spydies/BM/MT/SKI/etc etc and it doesnt slow sales on those any at all, so like i say i dont think that has anything to do with it, heck at one time i thought $100 was very high for a knife, so in that context a lotta knives are overpriced lol..

i suppose they are a bit different than other brands and arent for everyone, i like 'em though, probably my favorite brand.
 
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damn! that commander in s30V is exactly what I am looking for! Just needs a framelock but I would take it! now the bummer.......i am broke! Any way. If someone wants to know who and what does Mr Emerson stand for. search youtube for surviving the kill zone. part1. where Mr Emerson introduces himself.
 
Lycosa said:
FEIW---I like the concept behind the frame-lock but isn't it over kill??
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Its just about right in my book :thumbup:

Simple to use, easy to clean, strong/secure and is able to be given new life if/when it finaly wears out.
 
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