Moved from General Knife Discussion: Gil Hibben is selling his latest Rambo knife.

I believe the knife to be a great design for the setting of the movie. You can get a general idea of what Stallone will try to capture in this new Rambo movie just by watching Rocky Balboa and that is more realism and seriousness. That's what the knife is designed around, a simple script to fit the scene of a movie. I don't doubt Stallone's ability to be able to pull off what is going to be an awesome movie. With his skills he will be able to make the knife fit. It does look like a piece of junk, but it's supposed to and Stallone is going to use it in that classic Rambo way to kick some ass and the audience will love it. You guys are taking this way too seriously that I'm laughing behind this keyboard.
 
Never mind this thread is worthless. Hibben is a fine knifemaker and people will pay what people will pay. Ltd ed. Hibbens made by him go for a ton of money. Don't see why this will be any different nor should it be. You don't like it don't buy it. But I bet if most could afford to they would cause after the movie comes out it will be worth more in all liklihood. keepem sharp
 
DaveH said:
MisterSat, let me understand this, are you selling these knives or have some role in selling these knives?
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No, I am not selling them and have no stake in them whatsoever. I just get tired of people bashing Gil because he makes some knives that they don't like but others want.

I believe in being respectful to those who have earned respect. I know Gil occasionally visits these forums and It's just wrong for certain people to procalim a product a POS when they have never touched it. It's also wrong to call him a hack because he licensed some of his designs to UC.

Of course it goes with the territory that some people always have to tear down anyone who has achieved some level of success or celebrity. There will always be armchair quarterbacks who can sit back and critcize and second guess everything anyone else does.

If you don't like the knife or think it is too expensive you can say so without being insulting and name calling.
 
When I was younger I saw Rambo First Blood and it truly changed much of my thought process. The knives used in the movies are over the tops, yes they are, but I would love to have a First Blood knife from Lile, not UC. The movie was a turning point in my life. I am not a Rambo wannabe but I am now 40 and more prepared than ever for baad times. I can actually use a knife more fluently than almost anyone I know. I had one of those cheap knives with the round ball style compass in the handle and eventually moved up to a better knife and through time I actually ended up with several real knives so it was worth it to me. At this point in my life as a successful person I would pay for the Lile knife and show it around with the disclaimer that this is the knife from the Rambo movie that fueled me to become a better person and a better knife owner. Some people own Vintage Corvettes from when they were younger so what is the difference?
 
MisterSat said:
No, I am not selling them and have no stake in them whatsoever. I just get tired of people bashing Gil because he makes some knives that they don't like but others want.

I belive in being respectful to those who have earned respect. I know Gil occasionally visits these forums and It's just wrong for certain people to procalim a product a POS when they have never touched it. It's also wrong to call him a hack because he licensed some of his designs to UC.

Of course it goes with the territory that some people always have to tear down anyone who has achieved some level of success or celebrity. There will always be armchair quarterbacks who can sit back and critcize and second guess everything anyone else does.

If you don't like the knife or think it is too expensive you can say so without being insulting and name calling.
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With 90,000+ members, you will get a lot of ignorant buffoons spouting off. . . This particular sub-forum has a high concentration of them.
 
Gotta say, it doesn't look to impressive to me.. However Stallone hasn't come to my house and asked me to make a knife for his movie.. Good thing, I'm no knife maker. When I hear his name I always associate it with those cheap, crap knives sold on the late night t.v. I can understand that this was a business decision, but ya know what they say about first impressions. It sounds like he's a good person who obviously has a lot more talent than I do
 
Psycho_Boy_Jack said:
I think it is clear that anyone with a sense of practicality would not purchase this knife. Period.
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These will not be purchased and used by practical people. They will be purchased and become safe queens.

I am not the market for this kind of stuff. I use all of my cutlery. The most expensive knife I own cost just shy of $50.00.

I am not against this kind of silliness. If the guy can make a buck selling his knives to people who will never use them then more power to him.

I am sure he can make a good knife and he is a great guy. When I see his name my impression of him is clouded by the goofy looking art knives I have seen.
 
Horn Dog said:
Hah! Yeah, $1250 for that is even worse than $675 for the Bear Grylls knife. Please, somebody buy one so I can feel better! Rambo could have just gone into town and bought a cheap machete.
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For $1250 in that part of the world he could buy many machete's and the people to swing them lol
 
Actually the first prototype knife that Gil designed for the movie was a really neat knife and my favorite of the 4 or 5 designs he made. Stallone rejected it because it was too "finished" looking and didn't fit his vision of Rambo having to quickly hammer out another knife with very limited resources. He wanted something rough and crude looking but still big and powerful.
 
I don't think Gil Hibben cares what the people on this forum think of his latest Rambo knife. All 100 will sell very quickly, and the people that purchase them can look forward to the value of the knives increasing over the years. They will become instant collectables.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
I don't think Gil Hibben cares what the people on this forum think of his latest Rambo knife. All 100 will sell very quickly, and the people that purchase them can look forward to the value of the knives increasing over the years. They will become instant collectables.
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agreed.

all too often we get caught up arguing about whether we would buy something for a certain price.

or "why do people buy...."

or "id never buy...."


if someone here buys one, good for them. their money, their choice, they should buy what they want.


there have been far too many threads in this vein of late.
 
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Holy crap, it wasn't until I saw this pic that I had any sense of scale for this thing! It freakin' HUGE!

Is Stallone attempting to compensate for something?

If this is any guide the next Rambo knife will be 6 feet long, Like Sephiroth's sword in Final Fantasy video games. Better stock up on steel!
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All movie prop replicas are super high priced... Jeezus, get over it.

Look at the prices of any officially licensed movie crap, and you will see much worse.

Star Wars fans don't care that their 900 dollar custom lightsaber handle doesn't even come with a light bulb!

At least Rambo fans can get an expensive prop replica that can actually do what it shows in the movie...
 
I don't see why people are calling it ugly, either. It's primitive, it's simplistic, but that's GOOD sometimes. Would I pay $1250 for it? No, but that $1250 isn't because of the knife, it's because it's the Rambo knife. It's like buying a reproduction mask from V for Vendetta.

It's not a user, and it's not supposed to be. It's supposed to LOOK like a user.
 
Well, as an craftmanship achievement, that knife simply doesn't worth $1000.

But you pay for the name of the maker (just like real Loveless knives worths several times the price of copies some of them being as well made as the original).

You pay for the "Rambo" name.

Thanks to the exposure of the movie, and the name of the maker the price is actually likely to rise in the future, possibly more than many good pieces (I know, it doesn't make sense but that's the way it is), so it is (possibly) a better investment than some over (objectively better) pieces.
 
comoha said:
I don't mean to slam Gil Hibben across the board. He is responsible for many fine designs over the years, maybe that is why people are scratching their heads on this one. And I understand the movie context of the knife. I just am befuddled by the asking price for something that really doesn't seem to warrant it. Remember, this is a forum where folks are invited to express thier opinions on knife news...
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Agreed. Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Let me ask you this; Do you not try to get as much money as you can for whatever you do for a living?

If your employer or customers said "We are willing to pay you $100,000 because we feel your work is worth it." are you going to say "Nah, I can get by on $30,000. You take my work and get whatever you can for it but just give me the $30k." ?

To me, it's kind of like professional athletes. Many people thinks it's crazy to pay them millions for what they do. I'm sure most of them would play for much less if they had to. But, as long as the fans are willing to spend millions to watch them and millions more for merchandise with their names on it, why shouldn't the athelte get his share of it? If people are willing to pay you can bet that someone is going to collect. If it doesn't go to the athelete it is going to owners, managers and merchandisers.

Another scenario for you:

Suppose you are a custom knifemaker and a customer proposes that for the next 12-14 months they want you to design and make somewhere between 12-24 custom handmade knives for them. They want you to design the knives to be exactly what they want but they aren't quite sure what that is. The customer reserves to the right to change their mind frequently and you are obligated to drop whatever you are doing to make changes and get a new design made and shipped to them immediately.

In return, you get whatever you can make from the exposure of your knife. Collectors are willing to pay big bucks for an authentic handmade copy of the knife but you have to make each one by hand. How cheap are you going to sell your knife?

Please take into consideration, regardless of what some uniformed people might say, you cannot profile, drill the handle, surface grind, rough grind, heat treat, distress the blade for effect, final grind, cord wrap the handle over fitted leather pads, mark the blade, sharpen the knife and make the sheath in a couple of hours. I don't care how good you think you are, you cannot do it. Oh, and don't forget materials and overhead.
 
Cost notwithstanding, does anyone find the choice of steel funny?

Why make it from D2 instead of a more sensible 5160?
 
I think it's big, ungainly, ugly, and overpriced. All things being equal, though, I'd still buy that one before any of the other Rambo knives.

I understand why it's so expensive, but I guess I just don't care enough about collecting movie memorabilia.
 
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