My 6 was too pretty...

Dropped it in the river when he was at the edge of the river
 
I don't baton anything, especially my knives. I carry a Browning folding camp saw with me in the woods. It saws firewood. That's what it is made for. My knives stay in good shape and are used for knife stuff, not lumbering. :D
 
I always carry more than one edge, even in the jungle where I carry a machete. But I also carry a water bottle and hydration pack. I've run into guys that trust their camelback so much they only carry that and no other means of storing water. So what do you do when you accidentally get a hole poked in it? What do you do when you accidentally lose your knife? What do you do when you break your knife? First rule is to train to avoid mistakes and to keep down equipment failure. Doesn't always work but it goes a helluva long way when it's in the badlands.
 
If you want to know the real truth, most survvial training is simply an adjustment to your current thought process, not actually learning skills.
 
i agree with the more than one blade. right now im thinking an axe, plus a medium fixed blade and a sak is damn near the best combo out there
 
Great thread. Just wanted to say "nice pix" to the OP and the book cover posters. :thumbup:
 
shunsui said:
Great thread. Just wanted to say "nice pix" to the OP and the book cover posters. :thumbup:
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Thanks- I really didn't mean for this to turn into a batoning/anti-batoning thread, just remembered how much I liked looking at pictures of the 6 "in action" before I bought it, and wanted to contribute to the knife pron.
 
tersfeld said:
Umm....Should we be frieghtened that you own this book Jeff?:D
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Don't be too scared it's not his its Mike's and even then the book shouldn't scare you as much as this

BTW this is in reference to either goats or sheep...I think goats,
and if that doesn't scare you this should.
cricketdave said:
I donned my new survival panties, grabbed my favorite ESEE blades and headed out into the wilds.

First I gathered some wood to warm the cockles of my heart.
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That chore accomplished with ease due to my amazing use of the RTAK2 I built myself a fire using my ESEE fire kit and my rc-6.
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ah my eyes.........WTF
thats worse then seeing some of my own links on Esee chat


R.A.T. said:
I think the real skill comes in learning how to do something with the least amount of work
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Thats how I live my life everyday.....;)
 
A knife isn't the right tool for splitting a big chunk of wood, but saying batoning should never be done is misleading.

There's nothing wrong with batoning your blade through wrist thick (or so) pieces to turn 'em into nice thin kindling. It's a lot easier and more controlled to create kindling this way than using even a hatchet, in my opinion. And this is coming from a guy who is NEVER in the woods without at least 18 inches of axe in his pack, even on a dayhike. I doubt there are many bigger axe fans on this forum than me, so if I'm biased its in favor of the axe and not the knife. That said, batoning is fine, and in fact quite convenient, but only in small doses :thumbup:

Oh, and I think an ESEE hatchet would be a nice way to convince people that batoning is unnecessary!
 
R.A.T. said:
Gotta love that new word "running" for using a tool. ;)

I've carried the small GB but now looking at the mini hatchet from Condor.
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I've got 4 of them on order right now. I'll be personally inspecting every piece I receive so I'll try to take some pictures whenever I get them. Looks like it''s going to be few weeks before anything even ships from El Salvador, though, so hopefully I don't pass out from holding my breath too long. :p
 
Thats what I really like about this forum and some special guys in here like you Jeff: even a normal thread about using your knife has the chance to turn into something of worth, sharing experiences and different philosophies :)

I have to admit that, before I joined this cult, had the feeling that all the "tacticool" stuff you see on YouTube videos is the way to go... But thats based on what I am coming from: a low amount of experience on "real" survival stuff!

After some weeks on this forum with all the high value information(and for sure loads and loads of FUN:D) my knowledge started to grow and my attitude towards some aspects changed... The most important thing that I learned is going out in the great outdoors and test your gear, modify your equipment and go out again. Train your skills, accept the experiences of others and make the best out of it ;)

The good thing about the ESEE tools is that I can rely on them if needed! My 4 did great on small baton'ing, I should rather say "processing" small firewood to have a better edge to catch the fire, Izzy and AH-1 are on their way and wont let me down as it was proven on the forum dozens of time.

For all the bigger woods-work I got the nicely designed "Sawvivor" which I really like because of its weight and size when its packed up.

A good kit is always evolving and should change with you, your knowledge and the circumstances it is needed for!
 
R.A.T. said:
If you want to know the real truth, most survvial training is simply an adjustment to your current thought process, not actually learning skills.
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You should put this quote on all the survival cards you include with ESEE products. :thumbup:
 
Bridog said:
You should put this quote on all the survival cards you include with ESEE products. :thumbup:
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yeah, I impressed myself with that one. I get freakin lucky sometime.
 
any knife can cut a little wedge , to be used for tapping into a crack in wood to split it.
 
Bare Rib said:
Don't be too scared it's not his its Mike's and even then the book shouldn't scare you as much as this

BTW this is in reference to either goats or sheep...I think goats,
and if that doesn't scare you this should.
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The guy sitting to the left of Mike use to date Pamela Anderson of BayWatch fame.
 
Dizwolf said:
wetterlings 19". Works like a charm.
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I've been thinking about a Wetterlings 14". I read somewhere (I'm pretty sure it was the Axe forum here) that the Wetterlings has a much better heat temper than the Condors. Of course the G.B.'s are at the top of the heap from what I read.
Much interest in what you guy find out about the Condor.
So far as I can see from my research, my list of preference reads like this;
G.B.
Wetterlings
Husqvarna
Gerber Sport Camp Axe (Same as Fiskars, but with sheath)
Fiskars
-Bruce
 
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