My bk2 broke under the scales!! WTH!

I see why the stresses of batoning handle-side instead of tip-side would cause a break easier than this, but I also see why Ka-Bar wouldn't consider this warranty-worthy. In the past, though, the broken BK2s have been covered, dunno if that's any consolation. Best to just calm down, and let the warranty department work it out with you.
 
KingMC said:
I see why the stresses of batoning handle-side instead of tip-side would cause a break easier than this, but I also see why Ka-Bar wouldn't consider this warranty-worthy. In the past, though, the broken BK2s have been covered, dunno if that's any consolation. Best to just calm down, and let the warranty department work it out with you.
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Loud and clear!
It's not my fave Becker, but I AM bummed it broke there. I'm confident that it will be handled professionally.
 
In the spirit of this thread I decided to take my potentially overhyped over priced chunky salami slicing whittling knife out to task.

First just a shot of the knife and Senior Baton.



Decided to pound it's smug little face through a piece not too big, but it has a whole load of branch nubs sticking out including one sizeable knot...


Okydoky...


Next, it's hard to tell, but this almost 5 inch chunk has almost a complete twist in it. Weird trees...







Picture with bonus photo bombing finger and Senior Baton



Shavings? Nah, impossible.


Edge?




Sorry your BK2 bit the dust, I'm sure KA-BAR will do what is necessary to help you out. Stuff happens... However, one of the last ones was because a dude was smacking his 2 with an axe. KA-BAR has always been good about working with customers, and trying to find solutions to problems...
 
Well, you have a really great attitude about it and I'm glad, for your sake, you cleared that up.
I didn't know there were several other recent breaks. My newest one is about 2yrs old and. Like yours was, I haven't really knocked the new off real good and haven't tried batoning at all. Makes me curious as to the strength of mine!

I'd prob just ask the mods to move this to the BK&T subforum... Pretty much the same folks there but there's more traffic.
 
imho, this is not official, they will cover you on this

imho, opinion... you batoned with poor form. i'd watch some videos.

if you want to baton, get a BK3 or a froe ;)

you hit the wrong end of the knife, in a way, i would expect a lot of knife with skele-handles or thinner blades to snap

which... happened.

imho, skele-handles on the big boys are a bad thing. it's cheaper to go back to squared spines and solid handles. practical too.

but, not my knives, not my circus :D just my opinion.

i won't give up my old solid tang knives, and the few i've designed? no rat tails. no skele-handles. solid. tapered profiles even better.
 
Bladite said:
imho, skele-handles on the big boys are a bad thing.
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I agree. I can't help but think that all three of the knives referenced in this thread would have survived had they not had skele-handles. And if they hadn't survived, they wouldn't have broken where they did. That's just a guess on my part, of course. But it's an educated guess. Other than the skele-handled BK-2, how often have you seen a full tang knife break under the scales? :confused:
 
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Bladite said:
imho, this is not official, they will cover you on this

imho, opinion... you batoned with poor form. i'd watch some videos.

if you want to baton, get a BK3 or a froe ;)

you hit the wrong end of the knife, in a way, i would expect a lot of knife with skele-handles or thinner blades to snap

which... happened.

imho, skele-handles on the big boys are a bad thing. it's cheaper to go back to squared spines and solid handles. practical too.

but, not my knives, not my circus :D just my opinion.

i won't give up my old solid tang knives, and the few i've designed? no rat tails. no skele-handles. solid. tapered profiles even better.
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I know,
You're right.
It wasn't the best way to do it at all. I simply, in my wildest dreams didn't think that she'd crack in the tang. I'm hoping for the best....
 
iwouldhurtafly said:
In the spirit of this thread I decided to take my potentially overhyped over priced chunky salami slicing whittling knife out to task.

First just a shot of the knife and Senior Baton.



Decided to pound it's smug little face through a piece not too big, but it has a whole load of branch nubs sticking out including one sizeable knot...


Okydoky...


Next, it's hard to tell, but this almost 5 inch chunk has almost a complete twist in it. Weird trees...







Picture with bonus photo bombing finger and Senior Baton



Shavings? Nah, impossible.


Edge?




Sorry your BK2 bit the dust, I'm sure KA-BAR will do what is necessary to help you out. Stuff happens... However, one of the last ones was because a dude was smacking his 2 with an axe. KA-BAR has always been good about working with customers, and trying to find solutions to problems...
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That brings up an interesting point: I've seen this knife (not yours) basically take apart radiators and fridges, baton wood from hell, and after a regrind and polish, look as slick/useful as ever, that thread (dang, I need to find it now!) was what basically decided me on getting a 2.
 
Ugh, that sucks. However, not unexpected with the technique used.
Batoning on the handle-side will cause nasty undamped stressed much like impact from throwing. Remember that a chunk of hardened steel will ring like a brittle spring, and all the stress concentrating features are on the handle side. Even with a solid tang, you would still be at risk from the sharpening notch and the handle bolt holes (mostly the first one).

I hope Ka-bar covers you and you get back out in the field with the beast.
 
That one is an old roll stamped model. I'm guessing the OP was laser etched? Dunno if that'd make a difference but it may factor in for the investigation as for the time period it was manufactured.
 
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I've always lamented on Ka-bar's Heat Treat....weak, weak, and weak! and oh! they don't warranty batoning and paint stripping! WEAAAK!!!!
 
NCSlice said:
That one is an old roll stamped model too. I'm guessing the OP was laser etched? Dunno if that'd make a difference but it may factor in for the investigation as for the time period it was manufactured.
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Mine was/is the newer variety. Laser etched. 😕
 
knife chop said:
I've always lamented on Ka-bar's Heat Treat....weak, weak, and weak! and oh! they don't warranty batoning and paint stripping! WEAAAK!!!!
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Why do you feel this way? I've beat the snot out of my Becker's with no issues. I do, however, wish the 2 still had a solid tang.
 
knife chop said:
I've always lamented on Ka-bar's Heat Treat....weak, weak, and weak! and oh! they don't warranty batoning and paint stripping! WEAAAK!!!!
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Shoo troll, you're not making any point worth making, and you're trying on the wrong audience. :rolleyes:
 
Should KABAR not honour the warranty: strip the blade piece and handle piece. Take a grinder or dremel and chamfer the edges of the break downward on both sides. Take pieces to a qualified welder and have them weld said pieces together with high grade filler. Grind down excess. Take whole knife and have WHOLE knife heat treated professionally. Add scales again. Cut down abandoned building with fixed knife. Because you can..

No, I'm not kidding. Well, except for the building thing. Having it welded back together professionally then re heat treated will result in a perfectly fine blade once more. Good solid welds will hold as well as solid pieces. Yes it will cost you some coin to do so though. Obviously, if it is going to cost more to fix than by a new knife then, well, buy a new one. Get an axe whilst your at it.
 
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