My curiosity of Rough Rider, needs to be resolved...

[JPD1998]

Here's one of my favorite RR patterns, I wish Case would make one in this size.

 

[Fanglekai]

Which model is that

 

[untamed]

Which model is that

Second that query! (?)

 

[JPD1998]

It's a small folding hunter with red bone scales. But it's a perfect size and is smooth opening.

I found one like it on the web, the model # is RR519

 

[untamed]

^ Much obliged!

Any thoughts on their fixed blades? Specifically the "Long Rifle" series wide bellied skinner?

 

[SaintlyBrees]

Because of this thread, I have ordered 3 RRs to "see for myself". I have a Peanut, a Moonshiner Canoe, and a Utility Knife on order. Right at $50 with shipping. Not much invested and a variety of types to play with.

 

[cchu518]

Because of this thread, I have ordered 3 RRs to "see for myself". I have a Peanut, a Moonshiner Canoe, and a Utility Knife on order. Right at $50 with shipping. Not much invested and a variety of types to play with.

That sounds like a lot of fun for $50! Please report back! I personally love my two RR's!

 

[Will Power]

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Careful Z, the Dog Bone Jacks are extremely sharp and unexpectedly pointy as I just discovered!
Full disclosure; band aids are an essential part of my gear. Your Scouts are doubtless better trained in knife handling.
Oh, and the whistle works ......for dogs anyway.

For me, RR represents not just very good value and, usually reasonable quality/always sharp, but something else.

As this photo shows and other posts have stated, they also offer unusual and interesting patterns, knives you can't get elsewhere. This Dogbone looks very interesting and the bone is actually reminiscent of GEC's Frontier Bone. Other interesting patterns, the Eureka Stockman, linerlock Small Sodbuster, single spring Half Whittler, Deer Slayer (for fans of the big knife) Their Barlow range is well executed and I often carry their Mini Copperhead with Clip master. They are an interesting supplement to our knife diet and provide an inspiration to buy other traditional knives from more costly or hallowed cutlery companies. In the end, they can stand on their own merits.

Regards, Will

 

[jon_slider]

band aids are an essential part of my gear.

I carry superglue for similar reasons

I have ordered 3 RRs to "see for myself".

all for under $50 , congrats!
looking forward to your in hand pics and first impressions
here are some to hold us over

a peanut like this one in my favorite RR cover, faux tortoise?

or in Pertinux blue maybe?;-)

or one of these whimsical fellows, whose literature reads.
It's a groovy day, man, when love, peace and friendship rule.

a moonshiner like this in corncob jigged bone, including the cool stainless flask?

and a utility knife in prostate blue?

Or did you mean a Utility tool like this Red Pick bone?

 

[Pipeman]

^ Much obliged!

Any thoughts on their fixed blades? Specifically the "Long Rifle" series wide bellied skinner?

The long rider series has a very bad handle IMO and a nasty "leather sheath" that is more like hard cardboard. I would suggest the knife in the pic. It comes in a nylon sheath and the handle is a pale colour. I think it's the best all round hunter they make. An obvious Loveless design for the most part. Sorry for the darl pic. I dyed the handle to match the sheath I made.

Regards

Robin

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[mr_badexample]

The rr congress knife is one of my favorites. I wish they made a half congress.

 

[zippofan]

Thank you for the in hand pic Leogreg, now I know I want the Dogbone Jack, that's a nice size :thumbup:

I wondered about the whistle too

Cheers,
Griff

 

[SaintlyBrees]

all for under $50 , congrats!
looking forward to your in hand pics and first impressions
here are some to hold us over...

or in Pertinux blue maybe?;-)

Or did you mean a Utility tool like this Red Pick bone?

Thanks. Yep, the Moonshiner comes in the barrel with the 2 oz. flask. Kinda cool, I think.

Close on the blue - went with turquoise like this one:

And I almost went with red bone, but chose autumn. Utility knife is what dealer calls it, but I would call it a camp or scout knife like this one:


And, yeah, I'll post in here with pics and impressions when I get them in.

 

[PocketKnifeJimmy]

Well, got in my tiny RR leg knife. Is it the quality of my Tidioute (GEC) French Kate leg knife?... No way... but the RR was under $8 shipped... the Tidioute was over $70 shipped.

What I did not like about the tiny RR knife.....
One, it had some rust on the tang area where the RR trademark is stamped. Though I know stainless can rust, I have NEVER received a new stainless steel knife with rust on it. Some Flitz removed the rust.
Two, the blade has some wobble.
Three, the blade is not even close to centered... actually rubs in on brass liner.
Four, the "china" marking on the pile side tang is very mickey mousey... that itself looks cheap.
Five, a little bit of Rem oil got on the bone as I was oiling the joint, the pink easily started bleeding from the scales.

What I like....
One, a decent sharpening.
Two, it has decent bone fitting and decent overall look.
Three, pins are real in the bone scales, going through the bone and into and through the brass liners.
Four, it's so inexpensive, and it's decent enough overall, that the flaws can be forgiven... it is a cute little bugger!

Will I add it to my collection?... Probably, but verdict is not in yet. Will I buy another?... likely not.

 

[PocketKnifeJimmy]

Well, I've read it often here... if there is no picture, it didn't happen. Well, a Rough Rider knife has made it into my collection. AND, the picture above proves it happened, lol!

Compared to the tiny Victorinox Classic next to it, the RR is truly pretty miniscule... that actually makes me like it more (nolvelty factor)

 

[untamed]

The long rider series has a very bad handle IMO and a nasty "leather sheath" that is more like hard cardboard. I would suggest the knife in the pic. It comes in a nylon sheath and the handle is a pale colour. I think it's the best all round hunter they make. An obvious Loveless design for the most part. Sorry for the darl pic. I dyed the handle to match the sheath I made.

Regards

Robin

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Thanks for sharing. Yep it does look inspired by Loveless.

 

[LEOGREG]

"Will I add it to my collection?... Probably, but verdict is not in yet. Will I buy another?... likely not."

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, has it occurred to you that choosing a "novelty knife" may not represent the maker at its best?
Perhaps they leave such frivolous designs to their apprentices? Is not comparing an RR to a GEC a bit like comparing a Toyota Camry to a Ferrari? I have a dozen GECs and think they are the finest production knives one can buy today...BUT...
if I subject them to the kind of scrutiny I've noticed by others on this thread;

My first GEC a really stunning Northfield Cotton Sampler, the jigged bone had a couple of splinters that I had to carefully sand down lest they be sheared off in my pocket.
My second GEC an exquisite ebony Tidioute toothpick whose bolsters were so proud that I spent an hour and a half obsessively sanding them down with 1500 grit sandpaper before they were flush.
My third GEC a 2009 Northfield blood red #23 linerlock, a #9 in terms of opening and closing with an edge like a butter knife (not a simile, just a fact) and random stains from the etching on the blade.
And what's with the countersunk pins on many GECs or the blade drop?
My forth and fifth GECs, pretty much perfection, an ebony Real Harness Jack and a Blackwood sheepsfoot TC Barlow, both WAYNORTH SFOs.
My point? You can't judge a maker based on a single instance.
Here is a kitchen photo taken tonight (wish Deskil would reveal his indoor lighting secret)
Spinal shots of two knives I got in the mail this afternoon; a Silver Age, Case redbone Barlow and a brand new RR sawcut bone trapper. I find that back shots of knives reveal a great deal about construction and build integrity. I would love to hear from the naysayers and damned with faint praise members of this forum why one is vastly superior to the other.
If you just hate, hate, hate stainless, say so, but consider that the overwhelming majority of Case products are now available only in this steel.

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My apologies to all if this reads like a rant. As a sweetener I'll gladly send you one of my RR Canoes if you'll PM me your address Jimmy. An unbiased review would of course be nice but not necessary. If you don't like it then pass it on to one of the other esteemed members of this forum.
Sincerely
- Greg

 

[Will Power]

Greg, you make a very valid point about showing the spine construction/finish of a knife. It's indicative of gaps or raised springs, liner faults, poorly fitted handles etc and speaks volumes about the quality.

Big fan of GEC too but I dislike the sunk pins they can often come with, three flush/domed pins and one sunk hole is off-putting for me at least.

 

[PocketKnifeJimmy]

It is novelty because it is shaped like a lady leg, and yeah, it is a small knife. But as for quality of build, which is not terrible, especially considering low price, it still is a knife in their lineup. When I look at my tiny trapper from Case, do I see a difference in overall quality from their bigger knives?... No. In other words, I am pretty sure, from my readings here and elsewhere, that my findings on this knife do fit the findings that many others find on RR. I gave my findings honestly and true... no sugarcoating, and even added the knife to the collection. As for Gec, or even Case and Queen, they are the ones to compare to, since I was comparing to my domestically made knives which are all Rolls Royce when one compares prices alone (and that almost proves true comparing any RR to any knife made almost anywhere in the world, on price alone). I did make it a point to list the price difference between the gec and rr products. The cheesy applied "china" marking, seems to be common on all, if not most, of RR knives. Rust on a new stainless steel RR blade., while possibly not a common thing, was encountered on my specimen. Everything I wrote was on the up and up... and though this knife is a $7.50 shipped knife.... I don't believe my getting a bigger RR, or splurging for "high end RR" costing a big $15, would have guaranteed me a big better difference When I buy a small novelty case or Gec (smaller size or unique styling), I expect their quality to be on par with the rest of their products... and with those company's, I do find that. I think RR too likely makes these knives comparable to their other knives, and my review of my little RR knife, is very much on the same plane as many other RR reviews.

Oh, btw, as for stainless steel.... I own different types of steel in my knife collection. I purposely like the diversity. But, stainless makes up about 65% of my collection, and if I had to choose to only have stainless or carbon steel.... I would choose stainless for my collection. Glad I will never have to choose. But, yes, I prefer stainless.... so no stainless hater here.

 

[LEOGREG]

I'm quite sorry if I implied that your review wasn't on the up and up Jimmy, I meant no such thing, nor were my remarks directed specifically at you. However I do think it's somewhat unfair to judge anything on such a limited sampling. Are you at all interested in my offer?
P.S. Actually I much prefer carbon but don't hate stainless ;-)
Sincerely
Greg