My Fellow College Students

[Fonly]

Skammer, wake up and realize that: Not every day of life is a SAR mission

No, but every one is a possible. Taking some non major precaustions WILL help you in situations where you would other wise become another casualtee.

 

[Skimo]

My college is silly, they have "no weapons" posted, I haven't asked if they mean knives, the picture with the words has a pistol, so I just bring a folder in my bag, sometimes my mil issued rain suit.

2 bic lighters, one's about empty, a tin of Swedish snoose and maybe extra shoelaces, those thing always break when you need 'em.

 

[skammer]

Not talking about SAR Dougo. This is day to day survival and edc. I pointed out some gear to you and you went off. Yes, I do have a "to the point" speaking style, a leftover from the military some civilians can't comprehend.

EDC is just that "carry". Your truck only counts if you can get to it. The multitude of examples where people have suffered because this was not possible is well known. You have put all your eggs in one basket in your trucks BOB. It makes no difference if its a student pack, a laptop case of an office type to the purse of a salon stylist.

Doug, I am not a student I do this for a living.

You did ask the question dude.

Skam

 

[Joben]

Gentlemen, I respectfully suggest that this thread, despite good intentions, got off on the wrong foot and has been going nowhere useful for 3 pages now.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Not talking about SAR Dougo. This is day to day survival and edc. I pointed out some gear to you and you went off. Yes, I do have a "to the point" speaking style, a leftover from the military some civilians can't comprehend.

EDC is just that "carry". Your truck only counts if you can get to it. The multitude of examples where people have suffered because this was not possible is well known. You have put all your eggs in one basket in your trucks BOB. It makes no difference if its a student pack, a laptop case of an office type to the purse of a salon stylist.

Doug, I am not a student I do this for a living.

You did ask the question dude.

Skam

1. Thread title: "My Fellow College Students". By your own admission, you don't qualify. Shut up? No, not at all, but understand he's asking what works for others around school, not out in the wilds.

2. Leftover from the military? We were taught to cooperate, not conflict with each other. Show a little courtesy, hard as it is for you. Adapt.

 

[Myal]

I dropped out of school at 14 or 15
My carry then was a folder , a bic , a small pair of pliers and a double ended screw driver , as well as a flat piece of spring steel that breaks off the street sweeper truck brushes .

I found that made a neat lock picking tool Just a thing I had , competeing with my brother to see who could pick what locks the fastest ... the closest we came to criminal activity was to take the lock off someones locker we didnt like and replace it with someone elses lock ... and remove it for a fee after they went thru an apropriate amount of anguish

the pliers and screw driver were more carried for the purposes of getting the junker car we drove the couple kms down our farm track from the house to the ( only across our paddock , not on the road , we walked the last km ) bus stop going .

at the time I wasnt into survival ,just carried what I used regular ... the lighter was for lighting the bunsen burners inscience class , beat the hell out of the electric sparker thing we were supposed to use

 

[skammer]

1. Thread title: "My Fellow College Students". By your own admission, you don't qualify. Shut up? No, not at all, but understand he's asking what works for others around school, not out in the wilds.

2. Leftover from the military? We were taught to cooperate, not conflict with each other. Show a little courtesy, hard as it is for you. Adapt.

"It makes no difference if its a student pack, a laptop case of an office type to the purse of a salon stylist."

EDC is EDC, thought I explained that.

I was taught to learn from experienced people, and when I knew what I was doing I taught and shared it with others. Not to sugar coat subjects and to get to the point because it all matters now. PC and touchy feely dialogue was for liberals and REMF's.

When I am a student and I am often, I listen and learn. Its interesting that people I teach in real life appreciate the straight forwardness and professional approach and they pay me to be that way.

I did show courtesy.

Skam

 

[dougo83]

I'll just kind of try to adress these in blue

Do you plan for anything that can happen while at school, I realise you may not get snow, and it probably doesn't get that cold, but it doesnt have to be freezing at night to get hipothermia, cold, and wind can give it to you at night, even in the middle of summer, do you get storms in your area often? Some things are not a part of my kit, but should be obvious. If it's cold, I'll have a jacket. Raining? A rain coat. I don't carry this stuff on my person all day. Water? I usually carry a nalgene just because I don't like disrupting classes to walk out to get a drink. As far as weather-related illness, I am never far from my dorm or truck, both of which are fairly-well equipped.

Do you have trains, trucks with dangerous goods in the area? something else you should think about. Are there any big reasons that you would need to get the hell out of dodge? The only concern near here is a dam. If someone wanted to blow it we would have trouble. Again, my truck is stocked so I would be pretty well able to jet out.


My AFAK, that everything for sanatation mostly, CPR mask, needed bandages, hand sani, the N95 are something you should have, especially with the crap thats going around these days and in urban enviroments. I don't carry alot of the CPR/FA stuff because I am not trained(outside of the most basic FA course) and am not entirely qualified to render much aid since I got out of volunteer firefighting.

-Knives for sure, nothing too crazy, but serrated edges, mulitools and needed things.
-Some basic firestarting stuff, just a ferro rod and tinder.
-What ever gadgets, phone, light (at the time a mag lite) mp3 player
-Needed clothing, hats, gloves.


If you travel alone, I would sugest gear to make sure you can get by, by your self. keeping over a 1/4 tank of gas in the vehicle, if you can half tank at least, that way if you need to get out, you can.

 

[Liam Ryan]

When did skammer the troll return? I have been away too long, maybe.
Anyway, all I have on me is my edc keychain, and it's usually in my locker outside the shop. I am in machining and take a LM micra ps4, sliver gripper tweezers, a small led light, and a thumb drive. That's it besides the cell, but my buddy in class takes his gerber multi tool on his belt every day, I may bring the full size LM wave and show him a real multi tool on Monday.
I should probably bring along more, but there are first aid kits all over the school, my rain jacket would be a good thing to bring, I guess.

 

[skammer]

When did skammer the troll return? I have been away too long, maybe.
.

Troll? Liam you must have better than that being a Caper and all.

Skam

 

[Liam Ryan]

Believe me, I am quite tempted. But the rules are clear, I simply cannot do it.

 

[Liam Ryan]

Double tap, itchy trigger finger.

 

[cmdionne]

Believe me, I am quite tempted. But the rules are clear, I simply cannot do it.

Things have been bad around these parts lately, haven't they? :grumpy:

 

[Esav Benyamin]

skammer, keep it up and you're on your way out.

 

[dougo83]

No, but every one is a possible. Taking some non major precaustions WILL help you in situations where you would other wise become another casualtee.

True enough. However, on a college campus there are certain situations that are not even in the realm of necessity to me. My backpack is the result. As I have stated, I do keep a pretty comprehensive setup in the truck, where I spend most of my life anyway.

Gentlemen, I respectfully suggest that this thread, despite good intentions, got off on the wrong foot and has been going nowhere useful for 3 pages now.

Funny things happen when people cannot read.

Not talking about SAR Dougo. This is day to day survival and edc. I pointed out some gear to you and you went off. Yes, I do have a "to the point" speaking style, a leftover from the military some civilians can't comprehend.My grandfather was a PJ for 15 years, my brother is a Leatherneck, I am going into USCG MLES, my line of work puts me in contact with many retired servicemen...I think I have dealt with the military enough. You are just obtuse and disrespectful of what others have to say and act as though your SAR experience is the absoloute solution to every problem.

EDC is just that "carry". Your truck only counts if you can get to it. Nothing stands between me and my vehicle here. The only thing that woudl change that is an active shooter scenario where my kit would be useless without a firearm anyway.

The multitude of examples where people have suffered because this was not possible is well known. You have put all your eggs in one basket in your trucks BOB.In your mind, yes. However, you missed the entire point of the post because you were busy looking for another SAR tirade.

Doug, I am not a student I do this for a living.Then why did you respond at all? The post was directed, as EB pointed out, to students. How do you teach if you cannot read?

 

[Fonly]

Addressing your reply dougo:

I was thinking more along the lines of AMK heat sheets, that were on you, but if you have something similar in the vehicle, than you are covered anyways.


I take it your more less just looking for some odd's and end's to stick in your school bag eh?

In that case, just some things to cover basics, get a small AMK SOL kit, add some purification tab's, then pick up two extra heat sheets. Dont have to get them all at once, but collectivly will run you around $30. knives you've got covered, small light you've got covered so your good, other than that I think you would be good. Like I said, just try and cover the basics, thats what I do anyways.:thumbup:

 

[myright]

One of my bigger concerns would being have to shelter-in-place at school. I was thinking about it while in class the other day. I was thinking what if we were locked in our class room and couldn't get out for an extended period of time.

I started to take notice of all the things people had with them and noticed it would pretty much be utter chaos if there were a survival situation. There is one window and the room is on the third floor. There are quite a bit of people packed into a small space and there are some conflicting personalities. Also - since it's a CJ course there are some pretty strong personalities in there as well - Type A people - but then there are the sheeple and the people that like to disrupt class.

Water would be the #1 concern since it appeared me and about 4 other people were the only ones that had anything to drink with us at all. I'd have to go out on a limb and say I am probably the only person with a flashlight in there, aside from the teacher who is an LEO.

I try to keep all this in mind when stuffing things in my bag.

 

[PayetteRucker]

not officially a student right now, but will be in a matter of months. EDC will be two pens, the HEST, a water bottle, wallet, my zippo, suunto x-lander watch and a to-do list on a pocket notebook. Don't have my school bag yet, I'm thinking a North Face Skareb 40 or a Mountainsmith Approach. Hmm...

 

[PayetteRucker]

One of my bigger concerns would being have to shelter-in-place at school. I was thinking about it while in class the other day. I was thinking what if we were locked in our class room and couldn't get out for an extended period of time.

I started to take notice of all the things people had with them and noticed it would pretty much be utter chaos if there were a survival situation. There is one window and the room is on the third floor. There are quite a bit of people packed into a small space and there are some conflicting personalities. Also - since it's a CJ course there are some pretty strong personalities in there as well - Type A people - but then there are the sheeple and the people that like to disrupt class.

Water would be the #1 concern since it appeared me and about 4 other people were the only ones that had anything to drink with us at all. I'd have to go out on a limb and say I am probably the only person with a flashlight in there, aside from the teacher who is an LEO.

I try to keep all this in mind when stuffing things in my bag.

A shelter-in-place? in college? you gotta be kidding me, if they call for a shelter-in-place I'd walk out. thankfully public colleges in Idaho allow CCW (at least I'm told) so I'll be packing as well.

 

[dougo83]

Addressing your reply dougo:

I was thinking more along the lines of AMK heat sheets, that were on you, but if you have something similar in the vehicle, than you are covered anyways. I have wondered about the value of one on campus. The only need I could see on campus would be if a tornado did sufficient damage to the building I was in. OTOH, if the building is that severly damaged, I am gonna jet out anyway.


I take it your more less just looking for some odd's and end's to stick in your school bag eh?
I was honestly just wondering what, if anything, other people in a similar situation carried.

In that case, just some things to cover basics, get a small AMK SOL kit, add some purification tab's, then pick up two extra heat sheets. Dont have to get them all at once, but collectivly will run you around $30. knives you've got covered, small light you've got covered so your good, other than that I think you would be good. Like I said, just try and cover the basics, thats what I do anyways.:thumbup:I'm gonna assume these heat sheets are better than the crapy ones that they sell all over the place?

Water would be the #1 concern since it appeared me and about 4 other people were the only ones that had anything to drink with us at all. I'd have to go out on a limb and say I am probably the only person with a flashlight in there, aside from the teacher who is an LEO. I try to keep all this in mind when stuffing things in my bag.

Exactly, I try to keep what I might need on me. It's the same reason I carry more gear when I am on a group hike than I do when I hike alone. If needed, I can hand out extra gear to make light work for more people.

not officially a student right now, but will be in a matter of months. EDC will be two pens, the HEST, a water bottle, wallet, my zippo, suunto x-lander watch and a to-do list on a pocket notebook. Don't have my school bag yet, I'm thinking a North Face Skareb 40 or a Mountainsmith Approach. Hmm...

I am really liking my CamelBak Daxio. I don't carry a bladder in it, of course, but it is perfect for school.

A shelter-in-place? in college? you gotta be kidding me, if they call for a shelter-in-place I'd walk out. thankfully public colleges in Idaho allow CCW (at least I'm told) so I'll be packing as well.

You might...or you might be scared shitless like everyone else in the room. You never know 'til you are there. I, for one, wouldn't have the option. Every time we have a campus emergency, they call me anyway.