My first knife design. Critiques and Comments welcome

So tonight I took a fresh piece of 120 grit paper to a nice 800 grit hand rubbed finish :(. I know I''m not the first person to do this but if any people who are thinking about making a knife are reading this are curious what that's like. The feeling of doing that falls somewhere between putting together a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle then ripping it apart the minute you finish. And bringing the hottest looking girl you've even seen back to your place and as you're rounding the bases you find out she's actually a man.

That one? ;):D

I agree it's some of my better work and worthy of being quoted again :D
 
ROFLMAO how embarassing that it was YOUR post that I misquoted so terribly!!! But yes, that is the one, I laughed my ass off when I read that the first time!
 
Wish I could see outside link posted pics on government computers. I always have to wait till the next morning to see the posts at home. Anyways nice knife! You were talking about being obsessive with your finish? Wait till you get to the point that you try to make all of the micarta rings look exactly the same on both sides! That sucks sometimes.

Sweet knife! just a suggestion, I went to the leatherworker.net forum and THAT place has EVERY SINGLE BIT of sheath making info and sheath makers -full time ones too- so you can get it all figured out. I would say the forum is 50 50 sheath and gunleather makers. Chuck Burrows posts both here and over at leatherworker.net, that guy makes some super sick leather creations.

I am cheap, I use tin snips to cut my leather, using the xacto takes too long cause you have to go back over it again and again till it goes through. At the minimum you are gonna need stitch needles, 3 cord waxed thread, a diamond punch for the holes, an overstitch wheel (makes dimples so the holes are evenly spaced when you punch em), stitching groover (that lets the row of stitching set in the leather instead of on top, looks cleaner), and contact cement. Some folks use barge cement but I use plain jane Dap contact cement from Depot.

Anyhow I am sure we will see a sheath thread posted by you soon, if you want I can wait till then or post a bunch of links here of stuff to buy. Then you can make sexy leather like this...
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or like this...
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If you have links of things I would need by all means fire away here. This way I (and any potential makers who manage to make it through this whole thread). Would have a one stop shop of what to do and not to do from start to finish making their first knife.
 
Let me know if it ended up with a "scary sharp" cutting edge.

Asked the man with hairless arms.:D

Good talking with you today, Fred

PS A very nice first knife; make sure and keep this one you will look back on it with fondness as you progress.
 
Once again, awesome knife.

These are the tools I have, of course everybody has their own ideas as to what works, or little tricks to make life easier. you get the point.


needles, think I have the small size.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/home/department/Lacing/1192-030.aspx?feature=Product_13

adjustable stitch groover
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...-Lacing-Tools/8074-00.aspx?feature=Product_15

Overstitch wheel Makes the dimples so your holes are even
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...g-Lacing-Tools/8091-00.aspx?feature=Product_7

Diamond hole punch, one prong. I chuck this up in my drill press and use it as an arbor press with it turned off. I also modded mine by grinding the cutting edge taller to punch more layers of leather at once. Go to depot and get a decent double sided mallet with the plastic side and the hard rubber side. Not too heavy, and not too light. The plastic side will not mushroom the top of the chisel or your stamps like a regular hammer will. I did not see the need to spend the money on a rawhide mallet.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/home/department/Tools/Punches/8065-295.aspx?feature=Product_8

Waxed thread. this will get you started, but it is not a lot.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...reads-Sinews/11207-003.aspx?feature=Product_4

When you decide that you are gonna make your own sheaths for every knife you can buy this. I had mentioned earlier 3 cord but I really meant 4 or 5 depending on how big the sheath is and what you are doing. This is unwaxed, no biggie to wax the pieces you need.
http://www.campbell-bosworth.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/6_71_73/products_id/1431

LEATHER!! I get a whole side from Wickett & Craig. Costs a lot up front but their prices are hard to beat sometimes. I get a whole side of standard grade harness in 9-11oz. Their grading seemed confusing at first, but after talking to them on the phone everything was peachy.
http://www.wickett-craig.com/pricing.html


Barge cement. Like I said I use contact cement from Depot but you can use this. Somebody said they changed their formula to make it more environmentally friendly but now it does not work as well. I dunno.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...514-01.aspx?feature=Product_1&kw=barge+cement

Dye. I started off not having a clue and bought the Eco Flow stuff. EVERYBODY hates that stuff, it is difficult to work with. The sheaths I posted above I used Eco Flow and it indeed sucks to work with. I had to use a wet toothbrush to remove excess residue. Also how I stumbled upon my process for the two tone sunburst too. Lots of folks use the fiebings spirit dye. My advice here is before you put any of that stuff on your semi finished leather, practice on scrap -a lot- till you find out what is rock solid for you. I also put pure neatsfoot oil on the leather after the dye is dry.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/home/department/Liquids-N/21997-119.aspx?feature=Product_60
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/home/department/Liquids-N/2100-114.aspx?feature=Product_80

Gum tragacanth. This you use on the edges of the leather so harden it up when you slick the edges. Makes it look real nice after you burnish and let it harden. Depending on how hard you burnish the edges you might have to touch em up with the dye again.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...0-01.aspx?feature=Product_3&kw=gum+tragacanth

edge slicker. I got this, chucked it up in my lathe and recut the outside edge so it would work for me. any sort of hard plastic with no sharp edges will work though. Some folks use polished bone.
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...2-00.aspx?feature=Product_4&kw=gum+tragacanth

Finish. Here's another area where you have to experiment before you put it on your hard work. I have tried dipping the whole sheath in warm beeswax and mink oil -that sucked for me-, and now I airbrush resolene. For me it is hard to brush on without getting brush strokes showing in the finished product. I got satin shene but have not really worked with it yet. After thinking about it I got away from the dipping in wax cause if yer knife gets put away after being ridden hard the moisture has nowhere to go and is kept on the knife. At least if you are only using an outer coating the leather will absorb some of the moisture.

http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/2270-127.aspx?feature=Product_1&kw=resolene
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/...611-137.aspx?feature=Product_1&kw=satin+shene

Some tutorials. I have not looked at this stuff in a LONG time so I do not even remember what is here, I have all this stuff piled in a knifemaking folder with all sorts of info about EVERYTHING under the sun.

More tutorials
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458285
http://knifenetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46105 Braided sheath

Leather carving
http://www.onestopcandle.com/leather/carveinstr01.php

Criollo sheath
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419261

Wow, that has to be the biggest thread I have ever posted! Oh, I forgot to add ALWAYS make a template out of paper or light cardboard first. Makes life easier. And use a welt!
 
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Looks like it turned out great, Fletch! I found your WIP familiar as my first knife was done with hand tools and I'll never forget that experience.

If it hasn't already been mentioned, consider buying the Wild Rose Trading/Chuck Burrows Sheath Making DVD and watch it before you buy any leather stuff. It is extremely helpful and will also give you a good idea of what the tools do and which ones you may or may not want or need initially.
 
Thanks again for all the comments guys. By the way what I would also really appreciate is anything you guys notice that could be improved upon, basically constructive criticism. I'm very happy and proud with the result but I also know there is plenty that could also be improved upon. So by all means feel free to make suggestions there.

I got some more pictures of it and sharpened it last night. Fred, it's not scary sharp yet but I was able to shave thin curls of paper with it...So it's getting there :D. My strop came today I need to get some buffing compound for it. It has one side leather and the other side is leather the other side is canvas. Not sure how the canvas is used :confused:. Anyway I took some more pics, today was nice overcast day however there was a slight misting raid so forgive the water spots in some pics. I wanted to get some finalized pics up (minus the sheath of course). I need to get a better camera, this one has no way of shutting the flash off so even with a light box I don't think it will be useful.

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THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE HERE!!! :thumbup:
 
Well done, Fletch. Did you like the result of micarta or will you use wood on your next handle?


I liked the micarta, however I have a bunch of blocks I bought from Burl Source on here the last few months and will definitely be putting them to use soon. I'm getting them organized to be sent out for stabilization.

gixxer thanks for the links.
 
Wow just read the whole thing (read bigern's thread last nite) and there is alot of info on here. I just bought my piece of steel this afternoon. Piece of O1, After reading this I am anxious and neverous about getting started. By the sounds of it I need to go buy sandpaper in the bulk. Is there any certain brand that anyone can suggest or just grab some at the Depot? Anyway man I hope mine comes out as good as yours and bigerns, (heading over to try to find that other guys thread now). U come up with a makers mark yet? I just like seeing everyones.
 
Wow just read the whole thing (read bigern's thread last nite) and there is alot of info on here. I just bought my piece of steel this afternoon. Piece of O1, After reading this I am anxious and neverous about getting started. By the sounds of it I need to go buy sandpaper in the bulk. Is there any certain brand that anyone can suggest or just grab some at the Depot? Anyway man I hope mine comes out as good as yours and bigerns, (heading over to try to find that other guys thread now). U come up with a makers mark yet? I just like seeing everyones.

The Depot has up to 400 grit, at least ours does. I got a pack of 150, 220, 320 and 400. Pick up a nice coarse file and a nice fine mill bastard.

It is intimidating, but you just have to go for it. Do take care with the plunge cuts and don't take off too much metal prior to your HT.

Take lots of pictures!
 
Wow just read the whole thing (read bigern's thread last nite) and there is alot of info on here. I just bought my piece of steel this afternoon. Piece of O1, After reading this I am anxious and neverous about getting started. By the sounds of it I need to go buy sandpaper in the bulk. Is there any certain brand that anyone can suggest or just grab some at the Depot? Anyway man I hope mine comes out as good as yours and bigerns, (heading over to try to find that other guys thread now). U come up with a makers mark yet? I just like seeing everyones.

There sticky that has a ton of knife making supplies links in it. Towards the bottom there is a post by a member (think it's oneil) that shows where he get's his sandpaper from. I just got some from there, haven't used it yet but oneil said he has no problems with it.

Haven't come up with a definite one yet, I have a few designs I've kicked around. Just not sure when I think I'm worthy of marking a blade I did.

One of the reasons I did this was to try and help people who are where I was at to get an idea of what it's like from someone in the same position they are. Just take your time and make sure you're happy with each step as you go through it is all I can offer at this time.....You've just read basically everything else I know :p
 
Dude, that turned out freakin awesome man!!! How did you go about sharpening it up and how did you finish out the scales?
 
Thanks. I used Fred's bubble jig to put the secondary bevel on it. And then used the Gatco sharpener I have. Then I did some semi final touching up on with my fine DMT diamond stone. I used the bubble jig and set the angle I wanted and just kept that angle consistent as I drew the blade across the stone. I'll still work on getting it a bit sharper with my strop over the next few days as well. It's sharp enough to shave fine curly pieces of paper right now, but it snags a bit at times.

The handle I sanded up to 8000 grit with some of the 3M polishing cloths I got from Stacy. I was going to finish it off by rubbing a diaper over it but that seemed a bit much even for me ;)
 
Sweet, I think I'm going to add one of those jigs to my tool list I'm acquiring. What degree did you put your secondary bevel at?
 
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