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I'm looking forward to seeing a few build along threads on the knives you make. I have to say looking at your facebook page as well as your website seeing the types of knives you have made with seeing the tools you have in your shop in those pictures is impressive.
 
I was getting there, just not as bluntly.

LOL and here I thought I was being tactful ;0)

aren't you curious of the common knife or the traditional knife of an area

Absolutely... I would love to see what would be considered an EDC in his cast. I also did a google image search using the word moghal and have found some beautiful curved daggers.

I guess the question remains as to weather mughal bros is making custom knives from start to finish or simply buying cheap premade blanks and putting handles on them...time will tell I guess
 
I'll make one post and let it rest at that. If this becomes a big argument and gets nasty, it may get moved to The Good Bad Ugly. If it gets back to his knifemaking and such, I will leave it here.

I have been aware of Mughal-Bros Knives, who is now WB Knives, posts from several places. He mostly posts defending his knives. He says he is not RR Knives. He joined BF a month ago on this and another forum with his "Very First Knife I Made". He said he joined BF to sell his knives, and that is what he has done. He has posted this thread because there were people who questioned him in his sales threads. They should not have done that, as it is not allowed to post such content in a sales thread. He bought a knifemaker membership and has the right to sell. If you have a question or problem with his work or other things, post that in The GBU.

I do find it interesting that Muhgal-Bros Knives becoming WB Knives seems like the M was flipped to the W.

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It is interesting that he immediately had a full line of knives in many styles, and his shop and the knives don't look like they go together. There are a lot of coincidences with his data/photos/wording/etc. that implies he is the same as RR Knives. I personally know I have seen these same "My Shop" photos in the past. His post imply a humble and simple knifemaker working in a small shed..... but the finished product is of a factory level. I will leave it to you folks to decide if the photos of his "shop", match the products and if the are similar/identical to another maker/company. What they are made of and what they are worth is mainly a discussion between him and a buyer, but whether everything he says is on the up-and-up as described is a cause for thought.
This is his "Second Ever Knife That I Made."
http://www.australianbladeforums.co...ascus-Pig-Sticker-Knife-.&p=154907#post154907
For more photos of his products you might want to take a look at his website.
http://wbknives.webs.com/apps/webstore/
 
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I respect your desire to keep this from blowing up Stacy but I struggle to sit idly by while this guy actively tries to rip people off
Im surprised at the level of tolerance from the admins.
WB was on Australian blade forums for weeks spouting his non-sense and claiming to be a 'knifemaker', before being shifted to a dealer membership.
As you said, he disputes any connection to R+R but they post the same knives. The facebook pages are as good as identical!
You bring it into the open and then he turns into a brick wall.
Why is there any tolerance for such lies and lunacy?
 
So I will ask again (Knife related?) What is the name of the company you buy your 1095 steel from?
People here including myself have no problem answering that simple question...

Agree would really like to see a traditional blade from your area I am a Big Persian style fan. Think we get jaded hanging out here and turf protective. As Stacy says you pay your entry you are Free to post what ever you make in the Knifemakers section.
On that note expect to get called out if there are doubts to Steel origin, Blade Blanks, Kit knives Etc!
 
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Sadly, and Gladly, Bladeforums is an open forum. Anyone is allowed to purchase a Knifemaker/Dealer/Service Provider membership and sell here.

As a Bladeforums member and knifemaker
, I detest people who try and hide who they are or what they sell. If someone in Lahore Pakistan or Lancaster PA wants to sell knives, whatever the source, whatever the quality, whatever the materials, that is fine. There is a place in the knife market for those knives, too. Just be up front about what it is.

As a moderator, I am fully aware of people on BF who are not what they claim to be. We have kit knife guys who sell as custom makers; people who buy Pakistan blades and sell them as 1095/15N20 quality damascus ( often claiming to have made the damascus by hand); members who have multiple registrations; and people who claim skills and projects they clearly have never done. Unfortunately, this is part of an open forum, and certainly part of the open social media and internet anonymity. It isn't BF's place to expose or control these people. I and other moderators send PM and email to many of these folks telling them to knock it off or advising them to post only what is true....but we can't make them do it unless they violate some of the rules. When necessary, we sometimes publicly confront the issue in the open forum. Sometimes they just go away when exposed. In the very worst cases, we assign points, or ban the faker. This may or may not solve the problem, as many who leave by request or in anger just come back with a new email, and a new membership.....just the way it is on the internet.

What can Bladeforums Members do when someone seems a real fake and/or parasite on Bladeforums?
Report every thread or post that is clearly egregious. Give exact reasoning related to the posts or poster. Give links to other places that prove the lie ( like BFAUS) Just saying "Pakistan knives are junk." won't help. Saying, "I see this same person has sold ten of those "First Knives" on this forum -XXX.abdc/link. If enough people complain, Spark and/or the super mods can deal with the situation by popular request.
Also, post in Tech Support as well as the other sub-forums where these issues are discussed. Say that the quality of BF is being compromised by these people and call them out with specific information. This isn't the place for a witch hunt, but it is the place for facts and figures. The truth will out the people who need exposing. If the offending member gets belligerent, argues offensively, or gets vulgar or threatening with the mods in off line discussions, or becomes a forum disruption, it can be dealt with permanently.

What you members can not do is post in any sales thread negative or non-buying comments. Ask a question, ask for better photos, ask specifics about the item being sold - but DON"T interrupt his sales thread with any other differences of opinion. Send him an email or PM with those discussions. If you disrupt a sales thread, YOU will be the one getting dinged or eve banned.

However, if someone posts in Shop Talk and makes these claims, you are free to call him out and ask pointed questions. Just keep it civil and decent.
 
Well friends my name is WB as i told you before but i made my username mughal-bros . is there any law that i must use my real name to make an account on BF ? another thing is that i told u before i don't know rr cutlery and yes i made an account on ABF . why can't i make my account on there also is there any law also ? guys we are here to talk about knives and u people said i have to give u proof and i am giving u proofs . i am making a knife and sending u pics and i made a movie also i will post here later so let's do talk about knives only please .

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If you're unfamiliar with R&R Cutlery, I would contact them, because it looks like you guys are making the same tracker knife. I could be wrong, though.

This pic is from your webstore, your "first tracker knife":

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And here is a strikingly similar "tracker knife" from R&R Cutlery, on his Facebook page:

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Just a thought.

Sam
 
If you're unfamiliar with R&R Cutlery, I would contact them, because it looks like you guys are making the same tracker knife. I could be wrong, though.

LOL thats the loudest beoch slap I have ever heard...all the way from oregon to pakistan and I heard it back here in michigan ;0)

Mughal its good to see you found a broom and cleaned up your shop a bit ;0)
 
sir this is a very famous knife here today's bcz it sells very good so i made this one as i saw pic but i don't know if someone else is making the same one also . you can find hundred's of same knives made by different makers . just bcz 1 knife is matching u saying i am rr cutlery ?
 
sir this is a very famous knife here today's bcz it sells very good so i made this one as i saw pic but i don't know if someone else is making the same one also . you can find hundred's of same knives made by different makers . just bcz 1 knife is matching u saying i am rr cutlery ?

Whether you are RR Cutlery or not is irrelevant to me. To make a nearly identical copy from a picture is basically impossible based on the length of time you say you have been making knives. What this tells people here on this website, with the wealth of experience learning to make knives is you are confirming that these are "kit knives" that you assemble at best, or that you are just a reseller of these mass produced knives. The more you try to prove your point with circular arguments the less credible you look. I wasn't going to respond to this thread as it is so obvious what you are doing, but the excuse in the last post irritated me.
 
I'm sorry, but I just don't believe you hand made that knife and the many others you say are handmade by you....all in the last month by a brand new maker who has never made a knifeb before.all by yourself ... and certainly not with the equipment in the first post photos.
 
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wow sir i am going to put a video here about how i tamper my knives so let's wait . if u don't believe then i am a proud knife maker that i don't have equipment like you guys and i am making beautiful knives .
 
wow sir i am going to put a video here about how i tamper my knives so let's wait . if u don't believe then i am a proud knife maker that i don't have equipment like you guys and i am making beautiful knives .

How about putting up a video of you grinding a knife from start to finish and proving these guys wrong? :rolleyes:

I don't care whether or not you make your knives or buy them as I would never purchase one but if you're going to make claims it is only rational to expect people to ask for proof.
 
As a moderator, I am fully aware of people on BF who are not what they claim to be. We have kit knife guys who sell as custom makers; people who buy Pakistan blades and sell them as 1095/15N20 quality damascus ( often claiming to have made the damascus by hand); members who have multiple registrations; and people who claim skills and projects they clearly have never done. Unfortunately, this is part of an open forum, and certainly part of the open social media and internet anonymity. It isn't BF's place to expose or control these people. I and other moderators send PM and email to many of these folks telling them to knock it off or advising them to post only what is true....but we can't make them do it unless they violate some of the rules. When necessary, we sometimes publicly confront the issue in the open forum. Sometimes they just go away when exposed. In the very worst cases, we assign points, or ban the faker. This may or may not solve the problem, as many who leave by request or in anger just come back with a new email, and a new membership.....just the way it is on the internet.
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Multiple accounts is a violation of the rules and bannable.
 
wow sir i am going to put a video here about how i tamper my knives so let's wait . if u don't believe then i am a proud knife maker that i don't have equipment like you guys and i am making beautiful knives .

If you're selling (and making ) making hundreds of knives per month as you say you do; then you have to be HT'ing several per day as a matter of routine.

Shouldn't have taken this long ?




http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Damascus-Tracker-Knife-2909_165121315.html

That's pretty clear,

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Number of Employees: 51 - 100 People


Reselling mass produced commodity goods, not a custom knifemaker as any organization that I know of defines it.
 
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