Myke Hawke Gear

FortyTwoBlades said:
Honestly I really can't see how the "Talon Hole" is able to be supposedly patented and I doubt it would stand up in court if someone really wanted to press the matter (I suspect cases of infringement have only ever been settled out of court.) A hole in a short forward guard on a knife or sword almost CERTAINLY exists someplace historically. For a patent to hold up it actually has to be NOVEL. I'm pretty sure that a little research could dig up tons of "prior art" that would invalidate the Talon Hole. Probably no one wants to bother, though. Does anyone have a link to where the Talon Hole is patented? The only thing I was able to turn up was THIS ornamental design patent and to my understanding that's not going to hold up unless we're talking about full-blown counterfeits or knock-offs of the total design. For a design patent to be truly infringed the offending item must be "substantially similar" and simply having a forward lanyard hole located in a short integral guard isn't enough, especially since the feature is a functional one rather than purely decorative.I'm possibly wrong about all the above, as I'm no patent lawyer, but it kind of irks me when I see all the hullabaloo about "OMG TALON HOLE--TAKE IT TO COURT" and I don't see any real evidence that anything is actually being violated.Edit to add: By the way, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in specific with regard to the whole Talon Hole thing. It's just something I've seen a lot of over the years.
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You're not alone, it all strikes me as very petty too. More often than not it's the same bunch of kiddies that get all emotionally incontinent about “China” that seem to be on a constant witch hunt patrol for something they can run to “Boss” with. Too much free time and a constant need for approval strokes methinks.............I'm not into law either, but I kinda casually wonder how strong a position that talon hole thing is. How many makers have come foul of it and actually had to pay a single penny as a consequence. One might think that if the position held any decent footing rather than just throwing weight around with small hobbyist makers the real money would lay in pursuit of litigation against big international companies – ever seen a Jack Pyke Fieldman knife?...............When I recall that hole's function, to attach the “pizza cutter”, a great big ridiculous knuckle-bow affair for that pirate cutlass look I get to wondering – if I wanted to sell a knife with a hole there mebe if I added a detachable bit of pine wood baton across with a couple of wing nuts and called it “removable survival fishing bobbin attached at no extra cost” whether planks would be reporting it as “if you remove that bobbin there's a hole and that's a violation”. ….......Puh, anyway, no more from me 'cos I don't want to derail the thread into the weeds.
 
A mod should move this to W&C, I think a few people might have some none-too-friendly-words to say about these god awful knives.
 
Let the man live. No one is forcing you to like his designs or buy it.

It's pretty obvious that some of you don't like Myke Hawke.
 
I always thought his designs were not that usable looking. To much American tanto for me.
 
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I have nothing against the man--I just really strongly dislike his designs. :D
 
I might be stating the obvious, but I don't think this line of knives is intended for educated knife users. Most of the designs are almost fantasy knives, there's not even a passing reference to the steel used, etc.

I'm fine with the guy making a few bucks. Celebrities endorse all kinds of crap all the time, sometimes quality is not their first priority. I don't know him beyond watching a couple of episodes of "Man, Woman, Wild" (was that the name of his show?), he might be a pretty decent fellow for all I know. The whole SF thing doesn't do anything for me, but I understand it probably appeals to quite a few people and might explain why everything on that table has a bit of mall-ninja feel to it.

There's a positive aspect to TV survival gurus coming up with cheap knife lines: people who would otherwise not carry a knife might buy one. I've run into a few people who recently purchased some of the Bear Grylls Gerbers, because the picture of the bloke who drinks urine on the telly was plastered all over the box. They went from carrying no tools at all to carrying some crappy stuff, they might move on to better gear in the future.
 
Franciscomv said:
I might be stating the obvious, but I don't think this line of knives is intended for educated knife users. Most of the designs are almost fantasy knives, there's not even a passing reference to the steel used, etc.

I'm fine with the guy making a few bucks. Celebrities endorse all kinds of crap all the time, sometimes quality is not their first priority. I don't know him beyond watching a couple of episodes of "Man, Woman, Wild" (was that the name of his show?), he might be a pretty decent fellow for all I know. The whole SF thing doesn't do anything for me, but I understand it probably appeals to quite a few people and might explain why everything on that table has a bit of mall-ninja feel to it.

There's a positive aspect to TV survival gurus coming up with cheap knife lines: people who would otherwise not carry a knife might buy one. I've run into a few people who recently purchased some of the Bear Grylls Gerbers, because the picture of the bloke who drinks urine on the telly was plastered all over the box. They went from carrying no tools at all to carrying some crappy stuff, they might move on to better gear in the future.
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Agreed. :)
 
KuRUpTD said:
Let the man live. No one is forcing you to like his designs or buy it.

It's pretty obvious that some of you don't like Myke Hawke.
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Wow! Someone suggested killing him? I must have missed it! All I saw was people saying that they don't care for the lines of items that have his name on them. I seriously doubt that he, or any other celeb spokesmodel, have much to say about the design and production and marketing of products after they have signed that contract and been paid, and posed for the promo photos.
 
KuRUpTD said:
Another poster who doesn't love Myke Hawke :mad:
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Well... if you love the guy and are willing to buy any old thing with his name on it...

I don't love or hate him or any other celebrity. I learned that lesson when "say it ain't so" Pete Rose got outed.
 
It's hard to even get past the title of this silly thread. There's a reason it died a couple months ago.
 
I got to meet him at the NRA Convention. Seemed like a real down to earth guy. Was willing to visit with anyone and everyone. I am not crazy about his knives design but they have a good solid feel in the hand and would definitely take one in a bind. After seeing him on TV though, I thought he would be bigger!!! Little fellow. (Same thing with Joe Teti from Dual Survival.......he is cut but a little guy).
 
Smithhammer said:
It's hard to even get past the title of this silly thread. There's a reason it died a couple months ago.
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Or maybe that was just your wishful thinking?


DocGP said:
I got to meet him at the NRA Convention. Seemed like a real down to earth guy. Was willing to visit with anyone and everyone. I am not crazy about his knives design but they have a good solid feel in the hand and would definitely take one in a bind. After seeing him on TV though, I thought he would be bigger!!! Little fellow. (Same thing with Joe Teti from Dual Survival.......he is cut but a little guy).
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I've met him in persona a couple of times. He seems like a fine fella, and fun to talk to. Yeah, most of the SF types aren't all that tall. It's sort of like jet pilots...just works well with the job.
 
panzertroop said:
What's with the two watches worn backwards? This guy has became a joke.
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I guess, "two is one and one is none" type thinking?

llecardu said:
I don't get why he thinks a sharp back of his machette makes it chop better.....:confused:
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He seems like a solid dude but I have a problem with that machete.

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GTFO. Is it just me, but when I am hungry, thirsty, cold/hot and fatigued traveling over effed up terrain, do I really want to swing a sharp blade towards my head? And what is the logic of it anyway? I'm doing snap cuts on the way up (towards my face)? Also.......tanto.....for a machete? I'm not crazy about a handle that will be harder to customize to your hand, like a traditional, wood handled machete.

That being said, I hope he makes a bundle.
 
panzertroop said:
What's with the two watches worn backwards? This guy has became a joke.
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I guess, "two is one and one is none" type thinking?

llecardu said:
I don't get why he thinks a sharp back of his machette makes it chop better.....:confused:
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He seems like a solid dude but I have a problem with that machete.

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GTFO. Is it just me, but when I am hungry, thirsty, cold/hot and fatigued traveling over effed up terrain, do I really want to swing a sharp blade towards my head? And what is the logic of it anyway? I'm doing snap cuts on the way up (towards my face)? Also.......tanto.....for a machete? I'm not crazy about a handle that will be harder to customize to your hand, like a traditional, wood handled machete.

That being said, I hope he makes a bundle.
 
It's contracted through Condor so it should be quality construction but that doesn't stop the design from being nonsense. The handle is the same one used on their Combat Machete and it's quite comfortable, but the blade design looks like it came out of a Playstation 1 game it's so geometric.
 
I can kind of see at least some of the thought process on the machete. It's like two chopping blades in one. You have the downward curved one on one side, and a more parang-ish upward curved one on the other side. That being said, parangs often have a long, unsharpened section just forward of the handle to choke up for finer work. This one is unsharpened on one side forward of the handle, but not the other side.

I could see the tip acting as a skew chisel, but the various edges elsewhere mean you have nowhere to support and push with your off hand, so it really wouldn't do that well.
 
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