Need advice selling to brand new member

SunnyBunny

SunnyBunny

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Hi to all the mods and experts in the exchange forum. I received a "want to buy" for my $1000 listing price knife this morning. However when I check on the forum it is from a brand new member(6/28) and no info on the profile, so I reply with the following email :

"Hi XXXXXX,

Yes the Mistress is back into the safe and available.


However since you are so new I don't know how to respond. I want the best of experiences for both the buyer and seller because we are a community. Why don't I ask the guru in BF feedback forum "the Good, the Bad, the Ugly" on how to proceed, and fell free to participate in the thread, I sincerely want to work out the deal with you.


Thanks Sunny Austin,TX"

******** I know "When I doubt, DON'T do it" ********

Just wonder if there is another SECURE way than USPS MO/PayPal/Insured-tracking-delivery confirmation in CONUS.

Thanks for your advices and comments :) and please tell your stories to make us laugh or cry!
 
The onus is on the buyer to prove he is reputable since his reputation is nonexistent. Now multiply that by a thousand since you stand to lose a huge sum of money on a bad deal. Now take that sum and multiply it by a thousand again since there are red flags: no info on the buyer, at all, and joined *today*. Heck, he might have joined just to scam you for this knife. Not saying he did, but he could have... that's a red flag.

You clearly really, really want to sell this knife because despite your gut feeling, you are thinking about pulling the trigger, and you are asking questions you already know the answer to. No, there's no more secure method. If there were, you'd already know all about it since it would be the most popular method here.

Want secure? Have him send you the payment by bank cashier's check and don't send the knife until the money is deposited in your account. If he doesn't agree, back out.

Frankly, there's another red flag: if even a numb skull like me knows how badly you want to sell this knife, then a professional scammer sure as heck knows that and is banking on you ignoring your gut. The onus is on the buyer, who has no reputation. You don't have to (and shouldn't) try to make special arrangements to accommodate him; it's the other way around. Heck, have him come to your house with $1,000 in cash. :D

Just my 2 pesos.
 
Well. Done in one!?

Slap me Silly and call me Sunny :D

I will have to let the new guy know the answer is "NOT right now", of course if he come to my house with $1000 cash on the other hand....
 
hi again Sunny, i was the one that wants to buy your knife, i did not had much time to complete all the info ,please check my ebay 100% positive feedback with 463 transactions under the same name : maebba, most of them as a buyer, so before you make a decision please check my buyer feedback, this is my second day here , new and still learning about the big Busse Family so still need some time to see how things works,any questions send me a pm and beside your knife i place 2 or 3 other offers to buy also watching few of the busse for sale on ebay .

regards
 
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Use a postal money order. Ship the knife at the same time that you cash the money order at the post office (don't deposit it into your bank, as it can take up to 10 days for full processing). If it's bogus and the post office refuses to cash it, you don't ship. Make this a term and condition of your sale.
 
For me, I don't use paypal. I sold a chunk of my collection off the site a couple months back to a collector In GA, I don't do paypal or checks and he didn't feel comfortable sending cash or a MO so he held off. About a week later he e-mailed me back and ended up paying me in cash then I shipped the knives. You are a paying member to be here and in good standing as far as I know. If he wants to buy your knife he can send you Cash, PP, or a MO. They are $0.60 at walmart and if he does not trust you with his money then it can be his loss. Not hard to sell a Busse.
 
Payment only with paypal since i have 5000$ protection, and beeing a new member doesn't mean i am a high risk buyer, all of you start the same

respect to all
 
yes get the money first then ship the knife with makeing him sign for it with a tracking number. that way he cant say he never got it and demands his money back.
 
Whats the issue here, I don't understand...?

1st. The buyer sends payment (in the form the seller wants) to the seller. ...The risk is on the buyer here.

2nd. After payment ("clears") the seller ships item to buyer.

Why would the seller have any issue with who is buying as long as payment clears? You don't send an item before getting paid. Its the buyer who is at risk of scams.

Item should be insured and have a tracking number and confirmation of delivery.
 
RDog said:
Whats the issue here, I don't understand...?

1st. The buyer sends payment (in the form the seller wants) to the seller. ...The risk is on the buyer here.

2nd. After payment ("clears") the seller ships item to buyer.

Why would the seller have any issue with who is buying as long as payment clears? You don't send an item before getting paid. Its the buyer who is at risk of scams.

Item should be insured and have a tracking number and confirmation of delivery.
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I agree. Just because he is a new member doesnt mean he is out to scam you, i mean we all started just like him. If this was a knife you planned to buy sending $1000 to a new seller is one thing, but this is totally different. As the seller request payment upfront and make sure it clears before sending the knife. When you send the knife make sure you get a signature confirmation and insurance. Done.
 
Hi maebba thank you for joining.

Tetsujin 140.6 said:
Use a postal money order. Ship the knife at the same time that you cash the money order at the post office (don't deposit it into your bank, as it can take up to 10 days for full processing). If it's bogus and the post office refuses to cash it, you don't ship. Make this a term and condition of your sale.
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I didn't know you can cash at the PO, I will call and found out, thanks. Heard many bad stories about bank clear the MO or CC than turn around and declined it :eek:

turk.919 said:
For me, I don't use paypal........... If he wants to buy your knife he can send you Cash, PP, or a MO. They are $0.60 at walmart and if he does not trust you with his money then it can be his loss. Not hard to sell a Busse.
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Paypal is what I am worry about, too many horror stories about them favor buyer. Otherwise i have no problem doing business with establish member here using Paypal for its convenience.

blt-2-drg said:
I agree. Just because he is a new member doesnt mean he is out to scam you, i mean we all started just like him. If this was a knife you planned to buy sending $1000 to a new seller is one thing, but this is totally different. As the seller request payment upfront and make sure it clears before sending the knife. When you send the knife make sure you get a signature confirmation and insurance. Done.
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I agreed too. I sent maebba this link in my reply to him so he can participate. I guess it just raise a red flag when he join BF and email me right away, maybe he caught the Busse-fever :D

I pride myself being old school hand-shake deal kind of guy, tough for me to ask/request payment and stipulate all the terms like I don't trust my fellow knife enthusiast.

I will try to work out the details with our fellow member at any time. Since like the risks is lower for me If asking for USPS MO upfront, cash it at the PO right away or deposit in the bank and wait 14days? for it to clear before mailing the item, and that put the risk on the buyer, oh well.

Thanks for the inputs.
 
You are the seller, you get to set the terms. If you and a prospective buyer can't come to an agreement on that then don't make the deal. It doesn't mean anyone is a bad person, just that you couldn't do business this particular time. Not the end of anyone's world.
 
Postal Money Order is the way to go..... not reported to IRS, Cash at any Post Office. You will know right then and there if it is legit. Never go to banks with Money Orders unless it is from a known buyer, source.

As others said, as the seller, YOU set the terms you are comfortable with. I have sold a few Busses (As with most Busses, these were high dollar items) to members here with No post count. Always through methods I feel comfortable with. Paypal....not so much, too many horror stories!!! Easy to get paid these days. If you don't feel comfortable selling to him, I am sure someone else will. Make the sale ...unless I was one of the others he emailed....then don't make the sale, let me and I will let you know how it went.:eek::eek::eek:;)
 
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jujigatame said:
...........If you and a prospective buyer can't come to an agreement on that then don't make the deal.....
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Gravelface said:
Postal Money Order is the way to go..... not reported to IRS, Cash at any Post Office. You will know right then and there if it is legit. Never go to banks with Money Orders unless it is from a known buyer source...........
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Thanks to all those who chime in, really NICE to hear from new member :) and the old-timers :eek: :D
 
As i said still new here and need time to learn how this trades works, being long term ebay buyer i like to deal with pressing the BUY NOW key and paying for stuff that i am buying with paypal, not that i don't trust any others ways to pay the seller but i never used any other way then paypal. If is not against the rules of the forum i will place a new post with I WILL LIKE TO BUY a new nmfbm and fbm add. Respect to all and good luck with your trades
 
with all due respect you don't have any info or feedback either !!!!!!! i told the seller that can check my 100% positive feedback with 463 transactions on ebay almost all of them as a buyer under the same name.
Magnaminous_G said:
The onus is on the buyer to prove he is reputable since his reputation is nonexistent. Now multiply that by a thousand since you stand to lose a huge sum of money on a bad deal. Now take that sum and multiply it by a thousand again since there are red flags: no info on the buyer, at all, and joined *today*. Heck, he might have joined just to scam you for this knife. Not saying he did, but he could have... that's a red flag.

You clearly really, really want to sell this knife because despite your gut feeling, you are thinking about pulling the trigger, and you are asking questions you already know the answer to. No, there's no more secure method. If there were, you'd already know all about it since it would be the most popular method here.

Want secure? Have him send you the payment by bank cashier's check and don't send the knife until the money is deposited in your account. If he doesn't agree, back out.

Frankly, there's another red flag: if even a numb skull like me knows how badly you want to sell this knife, then a professional scammer sure as heck knows that and is banking on you ignoring your gut. The onus is on the buyer, who has no reputation. You don't have to (and shouldn't) try to make special arrangements to accommodate him; it's the other way around. Heck, have him come to your house with $1,000 in cash. :D

Just my 2 pesos.
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this is textbook scam. the guy does not know proper English. read his posts. He insists on paypal and tells you to look at ebay BUYER feedback.

I'd bet money you'll get robbed.

Maebba no offence if this isn't true but I haven't met many people who have a grand to blow on a knife that type that way.

"time to learn how this trades works"

"not that i don't trust any others ways to pay"

"i did not had much time to complete all the info"

Really?

I almost wouldn't feel bad if you got scammed, its that obvious here.
 
here is one of my item for sale on ebay: 230818754902 ,copy the nr open the ebay website and paste it on search ,from there click on the 463 nr next to my name,there you can see my seller or buyer feedback. hope that will change your opinion.

regards
 
living ins usa doesn't make me an American, and offense with s not c
monger4142 said:
this is textbook scam. the guy does not know proper English. read his posts. He insists on paypal and tells you to look at ebay BUYER feedback.

I'd bet money you'll get robbed.

Maebba no offence if this isn't true but I haven't met many people who have a grand to blow on a knife that type that way.

"time to learn how this trades works"

"not that i don't trust any others ways to pay"

"i did not had much time to complete all the info"

Really?

I almost wouldn't feel bad if you got scammed, its that obvious here.
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I buy all my knives off of Bladeforums with USPS MO's. I send it to the seller, he recieves it, cashs it, and sends me the knife. Its that simple.
 
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