Can Paypal gift be taken back? If not, then have the buyer pay that way. If there is a problem with the knife, gift his money back after he returns the knife. It's your knife, I know I would not want to be screwed out of $1000 with how tight money is these days. When I was a new guy the first purchase I made here was $100. I mailed a $100 bill to the seller and got my first feedback. YOU (SB) have earned trust and feedback, the new guy has NONE. Idc about ebay. I have feedback on ebay because my whole family uses my acct. BUT, it is also saying something that he has stuck around even though you have doubts.
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USPS money order. Don't deposit it at your bank. Go and cash it at the Post Office.
Really, no other method is as secure. Even if he paypals you from a confirmed account, he can reverse charge it long after he has the knife, then you are fighting the claim without your knife or the money.
Tell him to USPS Money order, and don't mail the knife until you have it cashed at the Post Office.
With this method, I would sell to anyone in the US.
Really, no other method is as secure. Even if he paypals you from a confirmed account, he can reverse charge it long after he has the knife, then you are fighting the claim without your knife or the money.
Tell him to USPS Money order, and don't mail the knife until you have it cashed at the Post Office.
With this method, I would sell to anyone in the US.
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The GB&U forum saves the day.Dodged a bullet there, Sunny.
I think that's it for now. Live and learn. Thanks for all the inputs and best of luck to everybody
Let's close the thread and everybody enjoy July 4th and our FREEDOM to play with sharps
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A week later and no more posts from maebba. And all 8 of his posts are right here in this thread. Looks like my gut feeling was right. He joined BF just to scam you out of a knife. What a sad loser.
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It is pretty tough when you are new here, not saying the buyer was 100% (or not for that matter) but just a year ago I had zero feedback or "profile" here, I like to think most folks would be comfortable dealing with me now but I was truly grateful to those guys from the Busse Clan that did when I first turned up.
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That is not fair. This fellow could have been a future contributing member here just as easily as he could have been a scammer.
It seems like a very big assumption that this person is a "sad loser".
Treat people as you would like to be treated.
I like the PMO idea, and I am not sure why meabba would not want to do that simple thing in order to get a knife that would cost $1000 - that is a lot cheaper than paypal fees.
Oh well - let's all try to remember that everyone that joins here is new at some point, and a lot of the time a new member finds BF because they are looking for a knife.
Not everyone is a scammer. See what the few bad apples do to our perception?
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Maybe he joined just to buy a particular knife that was for sale here. You're assuming a lot with this post, with no hard facts to support that assumption.
There are more than a couple of forums where I'm a member but only have 1 or 2 posts. It's not because I'm a scammer. It's because I wanted one single bit of advice/information and I got it.
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My previous career has unfortunately bestowed NO TRUSTING ANYONE on me. I used to be a Loss Prevention Manager for multiple stores with a rather large retailer and have seen theft from employees and customers alike. Believe it or not the majority of theft from a company comes from its employees. I have dealt with everyone from part time cashiers / stockers to managers and pharmacists stealing from companies. Some of the cases were as small as candy / drinks for breaks and some were as large as tens of thousands of dollars in merchandise or time theft. People have risked their lively hood and sole source of income to steal and I have seen pharmacists lose their licenses and managers who have life long careers totaled and go from six figures to minumum wage. I have had customers who make seven figures a year caught stealing, lawyers, doctors, cops...you name it we have caught them stealing.
With the prior stated, I am new to BladeForums...I have very few posts and NO feedback. I am learning the ways of this forum and as I do so I have learned that if you are a buyer or trader the seller or trader with the most positive feedback set the terms of the deal. Thus I am in the middle of my first trade, actually a trade that I commited to before really thinking about it. A trade where my knife (Benchmade Model 46-101) is in the other individuals hands and I am awaiting my new knife (Busse Hog Muk LE). I was extremely hesitant sending my knife to someone I do not know in hopes of recieving something in return but knew that it was the way of the forum and they had the feedback.
My question is why does everyone rely on feedback, join dates and posts so much? In theory wouldn't I be able to do the following? If I wanted to scam members what stops me from creating registered accounts every day since I found these forums and post from them. I could create fake transactions between these accounts on the forum and leave fake feedback on these accounts myself. I could then let these accounts mature a while all while posting daily and creating my feedback on occasion. After a while of doing this if that is all you rely on you probably would not question the fake member what so ever, right? I understand that this is all we really have to rely on and hope all goes well but isn't it flawed or am I missing something?
I being a new member decided to pay for the top account to try to alleviate the questioning of me being a scammer...but really does that even do anything? Isn't the $50 or whatever I paid a small price to pay if I was going to scam someone out of a few hundred or more dollar knife? To me it really seems that there is no way to fully protect yourself from getting scammed at this point. These are my thoughts... Am I just off my rocker or does this make sense to anyone?
With the prior stated, I am new to BladeForums...I have very few posts and NO feedback. I am learning the ways of this forum and as I do so I have learned that if you are a buyer or trader the seller or trader with the most positive feedback set the terms of the deal. Thus I am in the middle of my first trade, actually a trade that I commited to before really thinking about it. A trade where my knife (Benchmade Model 46-101) is in the other individuals hands and I am awaiting my new knife (Busse Hog Muk LE). I was extremely hesitant sending my knife to someone I do not know in hopes of recieving something in return but knew that it was the way of the forum and they had the feedback.
My question is why does everyone rely on feedback, join dates and posts so much? In theory wouldn't I be able to do the following? If I wanted to scam members what stops me from creating registered accounts every day since I found these forums and post from them. I could create fake transactions between these accounts on the forum and leave fake feedback on these accounts myself. I could then let these accounts mature a while all while posting daily and creating my feedback on occasion. After a while of doing this if that is all you rely on you probably would not question the fake member what so ever, right? I understand that this is all we really have to rely on and hope all goes well but isn't it flawed or am I missing something?
I being a new member decided to pay for the top account to try to alleviate the questioning of me being a scammer...but really does that even do anything? Isn't the $50 or whatever I paid a small price to pay if I was going to scam someone out of a few hundred or more dollar knife? To me it really seems that there is no way to fully protect yourself from getting scammed at this point. These are my thoughts... Am I just off my rocker or does this make sense to anyone?
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That would probably work once, however I know the mods can trace IP Addresses, so once one account commits fraud they could probably find out the others belong to the same person and ban all accounts (I know this because trolls being banned signing up under a different name and being banned again before even getting to post again) and there goes the months of work and logging on and fake transactions and posting. If I were to put that much work into for one transaction it I'd much rather find something that'd I make more money on, which I think you could with something like firearm forums (eotechs, or other accessories) maybe some kind of collectible coins forum.
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I understand IP tracing but that is extremely flawed as I could use a Proxy and reroute my IP, could even utilize several Proxies and make it almost impossible to trace. I could also utilize Dynamic IPs to make my IP change randomly which would make it more difficult as well, IP tracing is great for no proxies and static IP addresses. (I know all this and am far from an expert) Why would it be one transaction, maybe one transaction per account at minimum and who knows how many maximum...utilize several accounts at once and that creates several transactions. Lastly how does an eotech or gun accessories mean more money then a custom or high end production knife? You get your hands on a Hinderer or anything higher end and boom, $800 profit immediately.
I am not arguing that it can't be stopped but just playing a little devils advocate here. Just trying to point out that the idea that posts, feedback and join date do not prove that you are dealing with an honest person. We all can only hope that the individual we are dealing with is a honest individual as all true knife lovers are!!!
I am not arguing that it can't be stopped but just playing a little devils advocate here. Just trying to point out that the idea that posts, feedback and join date do not prove that you are dealing with an honest person. We all can only hope that the individual we are dealing with is a honest individual as all true knife lovers are!!!
Noting dealing with humans is perfect or foolproof. I can recall at least two instances within the past couple of years where long time members with lots of legitimate feedback suddenly threw it all away through a single act of bad behavior.
On the other hand, I have bought dozens of knives on BFC and have yet to send funds and not receive the knife.
On the other hand, I have bought dozens of knives on BFC and have yet to send funds and not receive the knife.
I am a new member and last week purchased a knife from a Gold Member seller on this forum. The member I purchased from had exactly one post - to sell the knife. As he requested I sent payment via paypal and am waiting for the knife -- it is a Chris Reeve. I do anticipate receiving the knife this week. Fingers crossed.
Can someone PLEASE PM ME or give me a short explanation of why GIFTING PAYPAL is a bad idea for the "SELLER"? I understand froma buyer side... Or if you are the SELLER and you receive payment vi a paypal BUT YOU REQUIRE SIGNATURE and FULL INSURANCE?? I never had a problem. I shipped all over the world.. No issues,, i guess iam lucky. My next shipment the guy will say he signed for a box of rocks
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If gifting money via Paypal for purchase of goods is bad for one party then isn't it bad for both parties on the whole? A deal where one person can get screwed more easily than the other is not a good situation and not one that we should put ourselves in, or ask others to put themselves in.
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The way I understand it is that if it is gift the buyer can not file a claim if he does not get the item as the gift tab is not for buying.On the other hand if someone buys an item the normal way and the seller sends it,the buyer gets it the buyer can still say that he did not get it and Pay pal sides with the buyer most of the time.Even if the seller has all the proof that is was shipped and received the money can be held up for a long time while pay pal sorts things out.
I hate to post this in case some crook did not know about it but depending on how your account is set up someone could rip a seller off like this.My account is tied with my debit card,pay pal sees that card as a CC so if I send cash it is instant but if there is no money in my account and my debit card does not back the purchase the seller would get the money taken back out of their account a few days later after they had shipped the item.I had this happen to me on 20.00.It was a mistake on the buyers part and he made it right as soon as he set his new bank account up in pay pal.
I hate to post this in case some crook did not know about it but depending on how your account is set up someone could rip a seller off like this.My account is tied with my debit card,pay pal sees that card as a CC so if I send cash it is instant but if there is no money in my account and my debit card does not back the purchase the seller would get the money taken back out of their account a few days later after they had shipped the item.I had this happen to me on 20.00.It was a mistake on the buyers part and he made it right as soon as he set his new bank account up in pay pal.
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