Negative Feedback Given - Admin PLEASE Read - I've reported this 4 times.

Popping out if the wood works. My initial comment proves who's at fault. Let the mods read our messages and deal with this. Tell your buddy hi for me.

Did you not read what I actually wrote before you slung this crap at me? :rolleyes: I gave you ammunition to get the feedback removed more easily because the buyer broke a clear rule here on BF when he left retaliatory feedback. You response was inappropriate and uncalled for.
 
Did you not read what I actually wrote before you slung this crap at me? :rolleyes: I gave you ammunition to get the feedback removed more easily because the buyer broke a clear rule here on BF when he left retaliatory feedback. You response was inappropriate and uncalled for.

I am so sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you said I wrote the OP (negative review) so that warranted revenge from the buyer for him to leave negative feedback. Please, please accept me apologies. I'm wound up and I've made two oversights I sincerely regret - again I'm sorry.


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I am so sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you said I wrote the OP (negative review) so that warranted revenge from the buyer. Please, please accept me apologies. I'm wound up and I've made two oversights I sincerely regret - again I'm sorry.

Accepted. Now report that again, and start a thread in Tech Support. In the title, say Retaliatory Feedback. Point out that you left valid feedback on Jan 23, and he retaliated on Jan 24. Spark take this much more seriously than unjustified feedback. FYSA, that's recently been made into a 30 point infraction.
 
Thank you for your help. I posted this same post in tech but will do so again tomorrow following your recommendation. Thanks for accepting my apology - means a lot.


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If you just posted, change the title and add the note about it being retaliatory. No need to have 2 threads.
 
There's a handful of folks that don't like me on this forum, and while that's unfortunate, I can live with it and will continue to treat people with respect unless it is not reciprocated. I've met great people here that have become good friends and that are well respected in the community. This post is about feedback I was given quite some time ago and to this day I'm so angry it was ever allowed to stay and tarnish my reputation, and also disappointed that I've written the moderators 4 times asking to remove this review because it is so blatantly wrong on so many levels. I'm simply asking a moderator to look into the details of this transaction as I've seen other requests from people responded to. All of the evidence is below but I'll give a high-level overview of what happened.

I mainly collect "traditional" knives and had a very rare mammoth ivory knife for sale. I bough the knife from a member of this forum and it was described as "new". Upon receipt of the knife I noticed a line down on the scale of the knife that seemed off to me. It was if someone had "filled" a crack in the mammoth bark scales, however I'm not a knife maker and have no idea what had happened because the knife was smooth to the touch and the seller assured me it had arrived that way from the distributor. So, when I decided to sell, I made a specific mention of this "line" and said it could indeed be a crack but because I wasn't sure the terms of the order were strict - $50 off what I paid in the even it is damaged and "no returns, buyer assumes all liability". The buyer that ultimately purchased the knife has me take at least 5 close up pictures of the scale where the line/crack was, understood the terms of the sale, and proceeded with purchasing it. When the buyer received the knife he immediately wrote me messages calling me a liar and that I should have known because I'm a collector - again. I'm no expert on mammoth but even still I had an inclination it might be damaged which is why I set terms and discounted the knife.

The feedback he left was: Beware! Rude and purposely misleading on a badly damaged knife!

The problem with that statement is that I was anything but misleading and that can be read through he and I's communication on this forum and the terms I set. Integrity is important to me, so I said I would refund him the entire amount, which I did, and to smooth things over even further asked if he's like to keep the knife. He obliged and said he'd donate it to charity which was a complete load of sh$t. The buyer recovered the knife with mammoth bark and sold it on eBay for $400.00. So, out of this deal, I lost my knife, refunded $150 or so and got a negative review in return. He however got a knife, his money back and profited $400 from the sale on eBay after the knife was recovered. How is this acceptable and why won't anyone help me to get this review removed? The specifics of the listing, etc. are below.

Original listing: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...r-Jack-in-Mammoth-Ivory?highlight=weaver+jack

In response to his review:

" Regarding "purposely" misleading, my listing read: "I purchased this knife from the forum for $200 around 6 months ago. The seller pointed out the line on the handles but never mentioned it was damaged. The line that appears looks like a crack in the ivory from the pin, and a small line also appears on the other side. I can run my finger across the handle and it's very smooth to the touch; I can't feel an indention from a split in the mammoth. Nonetheless, I'm selling it for $50 less than what I paid and seller assumes all risk if purchased. Please comment below "I'll take it" and follow up with a quick PM.

The language in the listing:

"I reserve the right to sell to whom I choose.
Northfield #563211 Mammoth Ivory / Serial #06 | SPF Pending Funds (use F & F and review my ratings, I will not offer returns)
*I've included a few photos that show the handles in light where you would see an indention of the mammoth was cracked. To be clear, it may very well be cracked, but I cannot feel anything but smooth ivory when I run my finger over it."

7 photos were included. I made it clear I didn't know if the knife was damaged as a previous BF member sold it to me exactly as I listed it and said it was new.

The buyer selling the recovered knife on ebay:

The buyer who reported me was given a full refund and said he'd donate to charity. He called me a flipper yet he recovered the knife and is selling it on eBay for $350.00. I paid $200, then sold and refunded $150, and now he's making profit.

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Can a moderator please respond. If any community members want to jump in please do.

Albert

I have dealt with Albert and he is a knife enthusiast a class act and a straight razor. No bs no nonsense.

Albert is as honest as a kid and a valued bf member.
 
I checked the information you've provided here in this thread and also your original listing. I can confirm what you've said here is accurate in regards to the description of the knife in your original sales thread. The only edits where to mark the knife "SPF."

This looks like buyer's remorse to me or an overall lack of reading comprehension. Maybe all the buyer saw was the attractive price and jumped without reading the entire listing. Either way, you went out of your way to avoid a problem and ended up getting shafted for your efforts.

Spark is only one who can reverse negative iTrader feedback and we'll try to get that done for you.

I think the buyer should see some form of consequence for this kind of behavior. I mean, this is no different then the typical paypal scam (e.g. get refund and keep the knife.)
 
I think the buyer should see some form of consequence for this kind of behavior. I mean, this is no different then the typical paypal scam (e.g. get refund and keep the knife.)

Agreed!!
No reason for guys like this to be here.
Joe
 
Change the name of the thread here or in the tech section? Thx again brother.

Actually it's sister!:)

For what it's worth I too think that this stinks. I hope you come right.

Cheers

Steven
 
OP - I feel you and am in full support for your negative feedback to be remove. Hopefully that will happen. I just want to point out a critical typo in your original sales post: "seller assumes all risk if purchased." I think you meant "buyer" didn't you?
 
Agreed. I've asked the buyer to chime in if he'd like - however I imagine he'll go hide in a dark corner instead of being a man.

Update: He logged on at 2:17pm and read my message to him about this forum and must have decided there's simply no way he can defend himself. So we can consider this closed. Please Admins, remove the negative review and consider banning him from BF for taking a knife he claimed he'd donate to charity and flipping it on eBay after it was re-covered with mammoth bark scales. Not only did he receive a free knife after my "no returns and buyer accepts all liability" after even admitting there could be a crack in the mammoth, he got his money back and profited an additional $350.00 or more. The worst part of all of this is that he left his negative review to tarnish my reputation.

I don't get your point. The knife was going to charity and not meant for profit. The buyer references who he used for the scales to be changed in the ebay photo I added. If you have a defense for him getting a refund, a free knife and then flipping on ebay I'd like to hear it.


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hello ahbiv,
I have not had the pleasure of knowing you and I know it's hard to read inflection and tone in written words on the forums. But let me clarify - I'm not defending anyone. I did read your comment that he profited an additional $350 or more. So I was simply asking whether it costs money to rehandle the folder - honestly I do not know the costs involved, whether it be shop time or material costs. If it does involve resources (costs), then I'm wondering how one would ascertain the amount of profit?

In any case, I do agree that since both agreed to a refund and subsequent charity, then he should not have gone ahead to sell it, regardless of the above. I hope this situation works out for you as you did give a full refund and I can see from the charity arrangement that you're a good man so this is undeserved.

warm regards from the other side of the globe.
 
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OP - I feel you and am in full support for your negative feedback to be remove. Hopefully that will happen. I just want to point out a critical typo in your original sales post: "seller assumes all risk if purchased." I think you meant "buyer" didn't you?

Thank you for pointing that out. I made the change and it was an error on my part.
 
hello ahbiv,
I have not had the pleasure of knowing you and I know it's hard to read inflection and tone in written words on the forums. But let me clarify - I'm not defending anyone. I did read your comment that he profited an additional $350 or more. So I was simply asking whether it costs money to rehandle the folder - honestly I do not know the costs involved, whether it be shop time or material costs. If it does involve resources (costs), then I'm wondering how one would ascertain the amount of profit?

In any case, I do agree that since both agreed to a refund and subsequent charity, then he should not have gone ahead to sell it, regardless of the above. I hope this situation works out for you as you did give a full refund and I can see from the charity arrangement that you're a good man so this is undeserved.

warm regards from the other side of the globe.

Thanks and best regards.
 
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