Neighbor Opens Package

[Buck_110]

Dave, Buck 110.....your comments have been juvenile and irresponsible.

Recommending starting a neighborhood feud and a vendetta of dirty tricks for revenge over nothing is profoundly inappropriate advice.

How are our younger readers going to learn proper behavior with you guys spouting off?

Talk like that gives the place a bad name.

If you were joking.....it was a very bad joke.

Standing up for yourself is proper behavior! I am a MAN, and I was brought up to always be a man. Your "One who runs away today lives to run away another day" attitude is NOT how I was brought up; nor is it what I will EVER do.

 

[BG42EDGE]

Sure, I'm a man, too.

Being a man means having the courage to face a situation head on and do the RIGHT thing.....not pull some sneaky tricks to get revenge.

 

[Bucksstophere]

Well, that is where you are very wrong!! Once the package has left Buck, they have no further legal obligation; it is entirely the responsibility of the shipper, in this case UPS. Buck would not have to reship and go after UPS; that would be entirely between you and UPS, especially since the item has been tracked as being delivered. Buck's customer service is second to none, and I would sincerely hope that you would not call Buck and demonstrate that type of demanding attitude.

As a retired second in command of a purchasing department that did 65 million a year, i disagree. Further I was not saying what i would do, i was only stating what the legalese was. They may very well have the stipulation you speak of somewhere in the 'contract' but if they do, i missed it.

Id like to point out that "blaming" Someone and pointing out who is responsible are two different things. If your kid breaks an item in a store the parents are not 'blamed' but they still are responsible

 

[knarfeng]

I read this morning and it's bothered me all day that somebody would blame Buck because of an error by the shipping company. I don't see the connection.

I see no foul on Buck, nor on the neighbor. I open packages without looking at the address sometimes myself. The neighbor was honest enough to realize the stuff wasn't his and he gave it to you. Stuff happens. Get over it.

 

[300Bucks]

Well,

Another good reason to live out here in boondocks America. I know Postmaster and carrier, most of the UPS drivers. FedEx guy moved to his folks hometown so don't know the new one,..... yet..... and yes it can be done, even in a town of 8,000
300Bucks

 

[Buck_110]

Sure, I'm a man, too.

Being a man means having the courage to face a situation head on and do the RIGHT thing.....not pull some sneaky tricks to get revenge.

You can call them tricks if you'd like. It sure beats the alternative of getting physical. "Head on" as you state implies getting physical. Physical doesn't scare me in the least. It's the whole getting arrested thing for becoming physical thing I choose to avoid. On my property though, that's another story entirely. In my state, you're all mine.

 

[Telechronos]

Standing up for yourself is proper behavior! I am a MAN, and I was brought up to always be a man. Your "One who runs away today lives to run away another day" attitude is NOT how I was brought up; nor is it what I will EVER do.

OH, GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!

Now this has become an attack on one's manhood.

This tempest in a teapot has generated 45 posts so far..........

Nothing has been said that indicates any compromise of the knife or the boxes and opening them should be done by the intended recipient to confirm quality anyway. I know of no collector that adds points for a virgin box unopened at any time after it left the factory. He'll open the box to determine if the correct knife in the highest quality was sent.

Why should Buck spend one dime to send back 2 identical knives in two identical boxes just because a neighbor (and often that implies more than someone living in close proximity) probably innocently opened a package escapes me.

You might also want to research the law that says title to an item passes when it is delivered to a qualified shipper properly addressed with the proper fees paid. At least that is true in my State.

Let's talk about Buck knives.......

Merry Christmas all

Telechronos

 

[BG42EDGE]

You can call them tricks if you'd like. It sure beats the alternative of getting physical. "Head on" as you state implies getting physical. Physical doesn't scare me in the least. It's the whole getting arrested thing for becoming physical thing I choose to avoid. On my property though, that's another story entirely. In my state, you're all mine.

In this case, since there was no need to either "get physical" or play dirty tricks, you're just talking nonsense (as you have been all along).

Now would be a good time for you to stop digging.

 

[jb4570]

He He He,

Where is the popcorn.

It's nice to see that we all have our own ideas on how to handle things. Enjoy life my Buck brothers as it's over way to soon.
jb4570

 

[Bucksstophere]

OH, GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!


You might also want to research the law that says title to an item passes when it is delivered to a qualified shipper properly addressed with the proper fees paid. At least that is true in my State.

Let's talk about Buck knives.......

Merry Christmas all

Telechronos

It certainly can be that way but it doesnt have to. In my business we bought 95% FOB Destination. Maybe the default for consumer purchases is as you say. I dont know.

 

[Buck_110]

In this case, since there was no need to either "get physical" or play dirty tricks, you're just talking nonsense (as you have been all along).

Now would be a good time for you to stop digging.

What do you mean by "digging"? I suppose a big, wet, sloppy kiss for the neighbor that knowingly opened a package that wasn't his is in order. A follow up of holding hands and singing 'Kumbaya' would be the perfect finish. And there you have your desired ending.

 

[Buck_110]

He He He,

Where is the popcorn.

It's nice to see that we all have our own ideas on how to handle things. Enjoy life my Buck brothers as it's over way to soon.
jb4570

You're right about that! It is over way too soon. I LOVE history. Looking back at past civilizations makes one realize just how temporal our lives truly are. The worst part is knowing that there will come a day when we are here no more. The more I ponder that, the more I've come to realize that I should use my safe queens.

 

[MustardMan]

Ease up!

UPS made a bad delivery. The neighbor opened the package without looking at the label, thinking it was for him. He looked inside and wondered who sent him knives, then realized whose package it was, and delivered it to the rightful owner. He's the good guy.

This is easily the most sensible thing I've read in this entire discussion.


The people jumping all over the neighbor, not knowing him at all or having ANY idea of his intentions, crack me up. I get, on average, 3 or 4 packages a week - some for me, and some for my significant other. I rarely check the label before opening them up. Sometimes I see something that's obviously not mine, and leave it on her desk.


To immediately assume the neighbor checked the label and saw it wasn't his package before opening it is downright ridiculous, and to insinuate that threats against that neighbor are in order is downright childish. Grow the hell up, people.

 

[Psychopomp]

What do you mean by "digging"? I suppose a big, wet, sloppy kiss for the neighbor that knowingly opened a package that wasn't his is in order. A follow up of holding hands and singing 'Kumbaya' would be the perfect finish. And there you have your desired ending.

um... The only person who did anything wrong in this whole situation was the UPS guy. And he made an honest mistake. Mistakes do happen and when they do revenge isn't the best action.

Keep in mind that this is December and packages are flying around all over the place. Chances are very good that the neighbor was expecting a package as well, one shows up and he opened it. "Oops, not mine."

I've opened mail that wasn't mine before because it was put in my box by mistake. In everyone one of those cases I've either hand delivered and apologized or dropped it in the correct mailbox with a note explaining why it was opened. No harm, no foul.

No one did anything wrong here. Two little mistakes are all I see happening.

 

[gundude73]

if i was you i would inform the postal inspectors. it is a federal offense and unethical to open up someone elses mail. either that or you could just confront them and ask why they felt as though they felt obligated to open your mail.

 

[MustardMan]

if i was you i would inform the postal inspectors. it is a federal offense and unethical to open up someone elses mail. either that or you could just confront them and ask why they felt as though they felt obligated to open your mail.

First, it was UPS, not mail - big difference.

Second, how do you know the person read the label before opening it? This is UPS's fault, not the neighbor's.



Man, you people are freaking ridiculous.

 

[Bucksstophere]

This is easily the most sensible thing I've read in this entire discussion.


The people jumping all over the neighbor, not knowing him at all or having ANY idea of his intentions, crack me up. I get, on average, 3 or 4 packages a week - some for me, and some for my significant other. I rarely check the label before opening them up. Sometimes I see something that's obviously not mine, and leave it on her desk.


To immediately assume the neighbor checked the label and saw it wasn't his package before opening it is downright ridiculous, and to insinuate that threats against that neighbor are in order is downright childish. Grow the hell up, people.

Don't worry-Im not goiing to say another word to the neighbor BUT when a UPS guy delivers a package that requires a signature, when the door opens, he looks at the name on the package looks at you and says "Mr Jones?".
How that went awry is hard to fathom.

 

[MustardMan]

Don't worry-Im not goiing to say another word to the neighbor BUT when a UPS guy delivers a package that requires a signature, when the door opens, he looks at the name on the package looks at you and says "Mr Jones?".
How that went awry is hard to fathom.

It's not hard to fathom at all - I have NEVER, not ONCE, had the UPS guy ask me my name.


Not a single time.



I HAVE, however, had UPS guys leave "signature required" packages on my patio while I'm not home A LOT.



UPS guys are NOTORIOUS for not doing their jobs.

 

[Plumberdv]

How the heck did this molehill turn into a mountain? Jeeez.

FYI, I ordered a knife from Buck and before it arrived, they popped up on the closeout list for $40 less. I called and talked to Liz and she immediatly refunded me the difference.

The shipping issue? Not Bucks problem. Even with eBay, it the tracking shows delivered even it gets stolen from your mailbox, left with the wrong person or what ever, the seller is off the hook.

Any supposed loss due to someone opening the box (can't image what that would be) you should take up with UPS.

 

[navihawk]

Most retailers will honor your right to a reduced price if something goes on sale right after you buy it. They rightly conclude that if they don't give you the price reduction, you'll return the item and buy another at the reduced price anyway.

In your case, you've already laid out the whole story here, but I do think that the fair outcome would be for Buck to exchange the possibly flawed knives and charge the carrier for the extra shipping cost.

X2. Buck will refund your extra money, or return them.At least the neighbor brought you the package. He could have kept it. If he had UPS would have tracked it down to his house and he would have some explaining to do.