NEVER let someone "borrow" your knife

my experience is a lot of non-knife people turn into complete idiots when holding a knife. they test it on hard objects, they pass it around in an unsafe way:

"me first, me first!"
"my turn, my turn!"
and "leggo, leggo!"

and then there are the genuine a-holes who know your mind; that you value the knife, take good care of it; and deliberately maltreat it purely for your discomfort (and other people's enjoyment.)

this is where i realized i'm a pretty nice guy. otherwise, i would have long been convicted of several counts of attempted murder.
 
i have learned from my jack*** friends that if they dont carry their own knives that they are not worthy of mine. i have had knives returned after a few min with about a pound of lock tight glue on it, severe chips from god knows what, used as scraping tools, pry bars, broken tips and have seen they jamed in the ground while the person is compleating the task. i almost lost a friend over a sprint run spyderco lol. i can throw one hell of a bitch fit over a pocket knife!

i have a recon 1 in my glove box and if the really need a knife they can walk to my truck.

ps: after one of my friends used my cts-xhp military to scrape glue off of a plastic tube. i promptly freaked out ripped it out of his hands and started checking for chips and damage. he propmtly said " if your affraid of your knife getting chiped out it is probaly a piece of s**t " he had a $5 schrade in his truck and i had a $200 sprint run in my pocket. i had to explain that a knife is for cutting to an 18 year old kid. never again will a kid toutch any of my knives or edc tools. some people just dont deserve nice cutting tools
 
Could have been prying with it. Also i wouldnt let anyone use my
knife if i didnt know them
 
I find it hard to abuse any of my knives... They get carried and used but the more I buy the more I appreciate the mechanics (how centered it is, how smoothly it opens and locks) The edge I spent so much time getting just right, the fit and finish that I've polished or cleaned or evened out... True, my Sebenzas, my Striders, my Hindrers.... All made for hard use but I think I would just prefer to limit their "hard use" exposure all the same.
It could possibly be that if anyone is going to abuse my equipment.... It had better damn well be me!
 
I rarely have to ask to use someone elses knife as I almost always have my own, but if I am using someone elses stuff I dont care if it is a $2 knife, I am going to treat like a sebenza if its not my knife. Also, I find it amazing what people need these knives for, half the time it is never a cutting task.
 
BlueFalcon said:
What is an ice pick? A sharp piece of metal with a handle, what's a knife, a sharp piece of metal with a handle.. I'm not defending any certain point of this but just pointing out some very blatant truths. True a knife was not designed for ice picking. Yes you could just pick the Ice up and drop it, or you could smash out with a blunt object or pick it with a sharp piece of metal. To each his own. Simply put, Ice picking will do nothing to a knife but make it cold.
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Yeah, and an axe, machete, scalpel, screwdriver, sword, and fire poker are all sharp or semi sharp pieces of metal with handles. Does that make them ideal for picking at ice? No, an icepick is made for picking at ice, hence the name. If you read what I wrote then you would understand that I wouldn't be pissed about the guy actually using the knife as an icepick, I would be pissed that he's misusing my knife. Now if the guy is using his head he wouldn't have used a knife in the first place. Since he wasn't using his head I can only assume that he's brain dead enough to either cut himself very badly or that he's going to give that ice a nice glancing blow and then bring the tip right down into the ground. I would not be happy about either of those things.

I'll say it again. A knife is a tool made specifically for cutting. An icepick is a tool made specifically for breaking apart ice. And I don't agree with the "to each his own" statement. To each his own if that person is using their own tools to get the job done. As soon as someone borrows a tool from me it is not a free for all where you use it however you want. You use the tool as what it was made for or you don't use it.

If I was at work and lent someone my pliers and then came around the corner and found them using the pliers as a hammer I would be pissed. While the pliers can take the abuse, it is not what they were made for. Use the proper tool for the proper job.
 
as a filipino, i stand by the universal perception that americans are a people who have the statement "use the right tool for the job" tatooed somewhere in their bodies for quick recall.
 
I've lended my knives to people a couple times before and not had a problem, but then when I saw the same people use their gas station knives to open tin cans or adjust rusty screws on a trailer hitch I stopped doing it.
 
Haha okay now you are taking my statement about ice picks and knives and applying it to everything. Why don't we include cars boats houses animals plants chemicals and everything else as well. If you would be so butt hurt about it you might want to have the person you are lending your tools to read a user manual and sign a user agreement before hand. I still stand by whatI said initially, its ice, ICE. Frozen water. Not concrete. Not hard woods. Not not metal....ice. If he gets hurt from using a tool he borrowed its his own fault for being an idiot. You can't save everyone.
 
BlueFalcon said:
Haha okay now you are taking my statement about ice picks and knives and applying it to everything. Why don't we include cars boats houses animals plants chemicals and everything else as well. If you would be so butt hurt about it you might want to have the person you are lending your tools to read a user manual and sign a user agreement before hand. I still stand by whatI said initially, its ice, ICE. Frozen water. Not concrete. Not hard woods. Not not metal....ice. If he gets hurt from using a tool he borrowed its his own fault for being an idiot. You can't save everyone.
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How am I applying your statement to everything? How would cars, boats, houses, animals, plants, and chemicals come into this discussion? I wouldn't expect someone to read a user manual and sign an agreement before borrowing a tool. I would expect an individual, who doesn't have a mental deficiency, to know what basic hand tools are to be used for. I'm not trying to save anyone so I don't know where that comment comes from. Do you think really there would be a 0% chance of someone trying to sue you because they cut themselves on a knife you lent them? I guarantee there are people out there that would do exactly that.

If someone wants to use their tools in a way that they were not meant to be used then that is up to them. To me, it shows a lack of intelligence or at least a lack of common sense.
 
Carry a Gerber with you. Paraframe 1 would be best in terms of strength.
Someone needs a knife, hand 'em that.
If it breaks (which from what I've done with mine, it wont) who cares!!?? it was $20.00
And if they DID/DO break it, they should be nice enough to ask about replacing it anyways
 
Good way is to tell how much the knife cost, and tell them that if you break it, you have to buy me new one. They usually find another way to cut their things. :D
 
retzius said:
I was helping a friend set up for a birthday party this weekend. We had a lot of packages to open, table clothes to tie down, boxes to break down, food to cut, etc. and I was the only one who seemed to think that bringing a knife was a good idea :confused:

A gentleman asked to borrow my knife for a few minutes and I reluctantly obliged. I was carrying my small Sebenza because it was casual weekend carry...

I walk over and the guy is using my Sebenza to break up ice! He is using the blade like an ice pick and stabbing the bag of ice to try and break it apart! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

It took everything I had to not scream at this guy. I firmly asked for my knife back and checked for damage. Thankfully all looks good. I told the guy that if you want to break up a bag of ice, just bang it on the ground... He seemed to think this was a novel idea :rolleyes:

NEVER let someone "borrow" your knife!
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Err...I don't know if anyone told you, but knives are used for work. If you carry a knife for show, don't lend it out. If you carry it to use, you should be prepared for it to be used as a tool. Why carry such an expensive knife if you aren't going to use it like a tool, which is what it happens to be? I don't understand why you got mad...for the reasons stated above. It's your fault that you let him use a knife that you didn't want to be used in a knife-like manner, and your fault that you carried it. Either pick something that you don't mind using and leave the "pretty knives" at the house, don't lend it out, or don't cry when someone doesn't realize they have to baby your knife because it's special. Jeez. Some people forget why we carry knives in our pockets in the first place. Or even why we have such a tool as a knife.:rolleyes:

I apologize if that's harsh and all, but it's just a common sense. A knife is meant to be used, unless it is an art piece or took a huge chunk of change out of your pocket. I personally would never buy such an expensive knife because I would act the exact same way you did if someone were chipping ice or something with it. However, I realize this before picking a knife I plan on carrying all day. After all, no one cares what's in my pocket but me. Btw, my personal EDC's, which I abuse frequently, as you can see.
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Tony8179 said:
Yeah, and an axe, machete, scalpel, screwdriver, sword, and fire poker are all sharp or semi sharp pieces of metal with handles. Does that make them ideal for picking at ice? No, an icepick is made for picking at ice, hence the name. If you read what I wrote then you would understand that I wouldn't be pissed about the guy actually using the knife as an icepick, I would be pissed that he's misusing my knife. Now if the guy is using his head he wouldn't have used a knife in the first place. Since he wasn't using his head I can only assume that he's brain dead enough to either cut himself very badly or that he's going to give that ice a nice glancing blow and then bring the tip right down into the ground. I would not be happy about either of those things.

I'll say it again. A knife is a tool made specifically for cutting. An icepick is a tool made specifically for breaking apart ice. And I don't agree with the "to each his own" statement. To each his own if that person is using their own tools to get the job done. As soon as someone borrows a tool from me it is not a free for all where you use it however you want. You use the tool as what it was made for or you don't use it.

If I was at work and lent someone my pliers and then came around the corner and found them using the pliers as a hammer I would be pissed. While the pliers can take the abuse, it is not what they were made for. Use the proper tool for the proper job.
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My answer? Don't lend it out if you're going to be anal about it...same as I said above. I personally like sharpening knives. And yes, if they break my $50-100 range Blur, they will be buying me a new one, or I will be taking something of value from them. The difference being that I have a knife that I am comfortable lending to people, and comfortable with abusing. And let's be honest here. An old school slipjoint was not strong enough for anything but cutting, and had no lock, so when borrowed, no one used it for anything but cutting. Modern knives are 3-5 times thicker, have excellent locks for the most part, and are designed to take a beating. While they do not qualify as prybars, they can be used to stab as well as cut, as per the design of the lock. Again, if you're going to cry about it, do not take the expensive folder out for edc and do not lend it to some lamebrain that doesn't know what he has in his hands. The end.
 
I always ask the same question- "Why?" Usually lots of blank looks follow. Hardly ever get a straight answer. Makes it easier to say NO. If I do get a straight answer, I always follow up with "Where is yours?" Usually lots of stuttering and stammering. If they own one, I tell them "Go get it." If they don't own one, I say "Go buy one."
Emergencies are different. That's when I usually go to help.
 
Some people can be ignorant and disrespectful with other's property. I've stopped loaning out books, music CDs, and training programs over the years as people would often lose, damage, or forget to return them.
 
When someone asked to borrow a knife, I just ask what for. Then I reach for my SAK or Multitool and promptly open whichever implement is right for the job and hand it to them. That way there is no chance of risking damaging anything.
 
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