New 0560 Carbon Fiber and CPM S110V Composite

chester22 said:
RC is 58-59 on these bad boys not 62 as I stated before, sorry for the mix up
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Welp, that seems like the very low end of the scale. A steel with so many carbides really shines when it its closer to the target hardness. I'll say that at 62, the piece would feel like awhole different knife.
 
I always wonder wonder why companies use "super steels" and don't take full advantage of their capability.
 
NeverMore1701 said:
I always wonder wonder why companies use "super steels" and don't take full advantage of their capability.
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My best guess would be to avoid complaints from people that cannot sharpen their knives. Granted run of the mill big box store knife owners won't spend $200-400 on a knife like this, so it really should be run harder. I would think the CB carriage might have an issue at higher hardness. Like I said, just a guess on my end.
 
i highly doubt kershaw would release a knife without doing testing to make sure it is up to standards in all aspects.
 
KeepmSharp said:
i highly doubt kershaw would release a knife without doing testing to make sure it is up to standards in all aspects.
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No one is saying that, where did you get that from? What was said in the posts above isn't bad is it? Getting S110V up to 62 is not only a challenge, but extremely expensive. Keep in mind, even a full point on the Rc scales can make a world of difference.
 
RevDevil said:
No one is saying that, where did you get that from? What was said in the posts above isn't bad is it? Getting S110V up to 62 is not only a challenge, but extremely expensive. Keep in mind, even a full point on the Rc scales can make a world of difference.
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Very true, the difference in my CRK Umnumzaan at the factory 57.9 and the new 60.1 is like night and day. I won't get into what I think of how soft CRK runs their S35VN, that's another story.
 
Why 58-59. Answer: Melting temp for Copper 1983 degrees, S110V austenizing temperature is 2150 degrees. The Composite Blade technology does not work in this case for max hardness.
 
chester22 said:
Why 58-59. Answer: Melting temp for Copper 1983 degrees, S110V austenizing temperature is 2150 degrees. The Composite Blade technology does not work in this case for max hardness.
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The rockwell to me is disappointing , but it is what it is ........Iam still happy with the knife by far.
It,ll still hold a good edge Iam sure , I,d just like it to be all it can be.
 
chester22 said:
Why 58-59. Answer: Melting temp for Copper 1983 degrees, S110V austenizing temperature is 2150 degrees. The Composite Blade technology does not work in this case for max hardness.
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That's the only thing I could think of that makes any sense.
 
Janv said:
marketing
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That doesn't make any sense.....at least to me. If someone wants to market a knife, don't you think they want to market it to the best of the knife's abilities? I know almost nothing about S110V, but from what I've read in the comments in this thread, S110V would be "better" at 62 HRC than 58-59 HRC. Also from what I've read in this thread, ZT couldn't run S110V at 62 HRC because the copper in the blade would melt before the S110V could reach the 62 HRC, and the costs would be a lot.
 
I have heard that even at the same rhc s110v has slightly better performance and edge holding abilities than elmax, along with what Chet said.
 
I got one of these this week, all I can say it wow. I have an eye for detail and it is flawless. Opens smooth and perfect. The only real issue is I can't bring myself to carry it. The smooth scales are so much nicer in the hand than the standard 560, not that the extreme texture doesn't have a place but the CBCF seems to pull from the pocket easier but still be firm in the hand. As some others have noted the geometry to the lock bar has been changed, I believe for the better. Just really outstanding all around. My friend at worked who didn't buy one why I yelled at him when I got the in stock e-mail regretted it when I let him hold it. :-) I don't know what else to say others haven't and I don't think I could add much picture-wise that hasn't been shown before. Cool knife keep up the awesomeness.
 
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