new and improved busse sale forum poll!!

[Cobalt]

I am not sure why Glockman has to be the moderator of our busse sale forum. We are many paying members and if we ask to have our own sale forum and we also ask to have our own moderators who will be one of us much like in the Busse forum, I am not sure why Spark would not agree to that.

I for one, have no problem with the chatter in the sale threads. I understand Spark's (and Glockman's) concern for other sellers and it's valid. Thus, if we choose to request our own forum and do so, we should have our own mod's and set our own rules that we agree on. If we remain in the main forum we do need to abide by the rules of that forum.

I would hate to see our sale forum moved to another host entirely as there would be no more reason to be a paying member here as a few previously pointed out.

I vote YES for a new forum with OUR moderators. We can even keep the current mods we have on the main Busse forum here.

I vote NO if we do not get our own Mods since nothing will change.

 

[Troy H]

It is a "NO" for me also. I suggested in another thread regarding this that "if" it were done the only way I'd be for it is if we had our own moderators (preferably chosen by the whole group). I was attacked for this comment, but that doesn't matter because I am still correct. The only way it will work is if one of the HOG's or a group of HOG's are in charge of moderating it.

However, even if this were the case I am actually still against it.

If they are really so concerned about the for sale forums getting crowded they should just divide them into Fixed Blades and Folders. ( and I would support this change )

I totally agree with this. :thumbup: "No" from me. :thumbdn:

 

[Eric Isaacson]

I totally agree with this. :thumbup: "No" from me. :thumbdn:

Now people are catching on. Agree with Porkerson, not blame Porkerson. Porkerson is right. (writing about myself in third person is also a little strange but I'm sure it is the right thing to do. )

 

[Cutshaw]

Agree with Porkerson, not blame Porkerson. Porkerson is right. (writing about myself in third person is also a little strange but I'm sure it is the right thing to do. )

And somehow I always pictured you talking to yourself in third person.

 

[Eric Isaacson]

And somehow I always pictured you talking to yourself in third person.

Of course I talk to myself in third person, how does everyone else do it? I just never write about myself in third person

 

[glockman99]

Walking Man,

Glockman99 has made it pretty clear that a separate Busse sales forum would be moderated by the same people who moderate the rest of the sales forums, and moderated the same way, with the same rules applying. For example, read post #19 in this thread.

To be totally honest about it, I really don't think that it would be a bad idea to have one of you "hogs" to at-least co-moderate a Busse Sale Forum if it were to be opened. As (sort of) mentioned before, us "outsiders" don't know the various names of all the Busse knives, so I, for one, really don't know one Busse knife from the next...

 

[Hogwash]

After reading Glockwhatever's comments, there should be another option, kick all of these cry baby POS knife selling idiots off of the exchange or stick them in a sub forum.

The reason non Busse posts fall off the first page is that people are not looking to buy those knives.

As for the new exchange rules, they suck.

Nothing is going to satisfy those cry baby POS knife selling idiots because their real problem is that people are not looking to buy their knives.

The powers that be are trying to bandaid the cry baby POS knife selling idiots problems by messing with Busse buyers and sellers.

 

[OldPhysics]

Maybe I'm just a softie...but I don't really think that's it.

As for Glockman99...I like him. Quite a bit, actually. I've read his posts, watched him moderate, learned a little bit about his life. He's a splendid fellow, really.:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Not his fault he doesn't know much about Busse knives. We could always arrange a long-term trade for him! What with all the Hogs around here...

 

[Troy H]

To be totally honest about it, I really don't think that it would be a bad idea to have one of you "hogs" to at-least co-moderate a Busse Sale Forum if it were to be opened. As (sort of) mentioned before, us "outsiders" don't know the various names of all the Busse knives, so I, for one, really don't know one Busse knife from the next...

I appreciate the idea of a compromise with this -- I do think that is usually the best way to solve these types of discussions -- my only concern with co-moderation is that the strictest mod usually runs the show.

One of the issues that has been brought up is the "chatter", which is something that the "outsiders" don't like, but the Busse forumites seem to enjoy. If a subforum were created, a conventional moderator might be heavy handed in regards to this, while a moderator from this group might let more of the discussion go. The result would be that the Busse mod would be unseen and the infractions would fly.

I'm still against the subforum, I'd prefer to see sale threads consolidated and fewer "If I only had the money" posts. I think that enforcement of these rules would correct most of the problem. Contacting individuals might be the first thing to try, rather than forcibly isolating a group.

I think we can all get along and follow the same rules, if they're stated and enforced. However, if the decision is made and a subforum is created, I'd like to see some changes.

Thanks for the discussion.

 

[Troy H]

Now people are catching on. Agree with Porkerson, not blame Porkerson. Porkerson is right. (writing about myself in third person is also a little strange but I'm sure it is the right thing to do. )

I figure that if I agree with you now, I can blame you later when things go wrong.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

if you want to be heard, this is the place to vote, ignore the other one.

 

[Cutshaw]

360joules is right on the money.

(Both with the issue of co-moderation **and** Porkerson)

 

[Tony G]

I was just looking in the exchange and noticed a lot of free bumps in some threads. They were not Busse threads so I wonder if the other forums got the word.

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

I figure that if I agree with you now, I can blame you later when things go wrong.

I never thought the day would come when Pokerson wouldn't get the blame. :foot:

 

[PoorGuy]

So if you were running Busse Combat do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea to cut off the avenue that brough in 5-10% of your customers?

So see it is obvious that you are dead wrong and should go change you vote.

Tony, I think you missed my point. What I was trying to say was that I'm always right and you're wrong every time that you disagree with my opinion.

More importantly, Porkerson is somehow not getting blamed very much on this problem. I'm not sure what's happening here.

Oh, and if I were running Busse Combat, this discussion would be moot. I'd keep every knife produced and use any remaining sheets of INFI to armor plate my truck. :thumbup:

 

[PoorGuy]

I will be glad to be the moderator:thumbup:

COBALT FOR MODERATOR!!! LONG LIVE HIS SIGNATURE LINE!!!

 

[Jim G.]

I was just looking in the exchange and noticed a lot of free bumps in some threads. They were not Busse threads so I wonder if the other forums got the word.

I don't know. The only 2 I cared about was this one and the Hi forum so I posted it in both. maby I shouldn't have posted it here, I wasn't expecting this kind of shitstorm, was just trying to warn people so they would know.

 

[barrabas74]

After reading Glockwhatever's comments, there should be another option, kick all of these cry baby POS knife selling idiots off of the exchange or stick them in a sub forum.

The reason non Busse posts fall off the first page is that people are not looking to buy those knives.

As for the new exchange rules, they suck.

Nothing is going to satisfy those cry baby POS knife selling idiots because their real problem is that people are not looking to buy their knives.

The powers that be are trying to bandaid the cry baby POS knife selling idiots problems by messing with Busse buyers and sellers.

I think its a bit oversimplifying the situation but I understand your point and def agree with pretty much what you have said. That alot of people are bitching because what they are selling no one wants or they are selling it at too high a price. Then they see everyone else buying Busse's at many times more than retail and they get jealous and bitchy. Oversimplifying but still...

I also think this pole is ERRONEOUS!!!
"yes, i want it, i like it, segregation is good"

It is hard to get people to vote for "segregation is good". A more appropriatley worded poll would have stated "Yes I would like a seperatley moderated busse forum".

And if it there is a new forum I vote COBALT 2007!! on the Big Jug Girl Signature Platform

 

[Guyon]

You know, it occurs to me that Cobalt might have a thing for jugs.

Oh no, there I've gone and done it again. I've sullied this thread with useless chit-chat.

 

[Guyon]

I, too, disagree with this. Each paying member has equal entitlements in regard to where and how they may sell their knives on the forums. The brand of knives they choose to sell has no relevance to fairness whatsoever. The fairness comes from each seller's equal access to the means to display their sales as prominently as possible, not from the brand for sale. Therefore, reorganizing in such manner that it denies equal access to viewer traffic for a certain number of viewers, for the benefit of others, is less fair, not more fair.

This post makes a lot of sense to me. I'm going to add a resounding "what he said."

PoorGuy,

What if you were to find out that of every 100 Busse buyers that 5-10 found their way here by viewing Busses for sale in the general sales forum and after seeing them said "Hey those are kind of cool..." and THEN they did some research etc. ect. like you did.

That's how I wound up posting over here as well.