It was a joke, because they're both extremely overweight to the point of barely being usable (IMO).
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It was a joke, because they're both extremely overweight to the point of barely being usable (IMO).
Ha! Real tools for craftsmen? Estwing is department store crap these days. Just because you cant break it doesn't mean it isn't a crap tool. I'm willing to bet that the zombie tools stuff is infinitely more well made and finished than Estwing, not that I'd buy either.
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I'd take that bet.
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I'm sitting back with popcorn waiting for the "You mama so fat..." and "You mama so ugly..." to start flying. 
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It looks like a dark ages barbarian axe. Would go perfect with the Renaissance Faire costume. But you know it's this kind of thing that makes me love blades more than guns, there isn't a whole lot of innovation or change in firearms, but blades, blades have so many different shapes, grinds, designs. But hell I would buy one for a man cave to mount on the wall above the fireplace house Carl style. But really not much different than the Busse Gladius' that go for over a grand. What practical use do they have unless you want to use it for an expensive machete?
I'm sitting back with popcorn waiting for the "You mama so fat..." and "You mama so ugly..." to start flying.
You're just the guy this thread needs! A real tool maker is here.
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LOL.....would you like to make up your mind? Take your time, please......
What Lowslowmiata said is correct: Zombie Tool blades are well made, intended to withstand the forces associated with use. The material they use (5160) is a recognized quality alloy. The zombie motif is a style, nothing more; and there is nothing about it that interferes in the standard function envelope of the blade. What the end user does with the blade is immaterial....the people making the blades are talented and creative; and they are having fun and making money at the same time (that's why they don't have the time or interest going on some Interwebs forum to badmouth what other people do with their money). They have never tried to hide the fact that they do a modern twist on old style weapons with the same apocalyptic zombie flavor that is obviously liked and appreciated by a lot of people in the humor with which it was intended.....no sales pitch insinuating "practicality" at all. The "expense" is the value they put upon their work...same as everyone else; and you may choose to buy or not to buy....same as everyone else.
Do you buy swords at all? Then you already have spent more than you "need" to acquire more than you "need". Swords are largely antipersonnel weapons from an earlier time.....which tends to make them discretionary purchases, not needs; so any level of "practicality" is already subjective. Do you buy tobacco? Alcohol? How much do you spend on sex toys every month? Why, I would NEVER pay [some random amount of $] for THAT!
For that matter, do you buy any bladed product other than a Mora and a cheap Tramontina machete? Because that's all you "need", right?
I've got several Zombie Tools; and I love them. No, I have not used them to kill anyone or anything; nor have I used them for yard work. In fact, most of them have cut nothing at all. And none of that is relevant to their quality.
Thank you for informing us of your tastes in ax styles. That was very important information that was keeping me up at night, waiting to see if you approve of other people's choices.
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You clearly don't go to the mall. They often have little trees in pots that would be prime for falling.
Although I can't say I've tried to fall in the mall.
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I generally don't comment too much on other's work, especially on the ax/tomahawk side of things. It's an even smaller world than the custom knife side!
I do find amusing/aggravating folks on the Interwebz that get discombobulated and insulting because other folks like to buy different cutting tools than they approve of. Seems to happen when I post my tactical 'hawks, and I've also seen it when someone thinks that no one should be using a knife with a blade over four inches that isn't scandi ground out in the woods. My philosophy is that folks should spend their money that they earn honestly on the kinds of cutting implements that they deem will best suit their needs. If that cutting implement is something that I find goofy and overpriced, I can roll my eyes and move along. As long as it's not an out-and-out scam or ripoff, it's the other guy's prerogative to buy what he wants to.
As my mother the teacher worked daily to instill in her students, "In second grade, we leave people and their things alone."
I do have to say that Zombie Tools has some designs I find appealing and others I find less appealing. They seemed to be scouting out the Blade Show this last time. Hopefully next year they might have a table and I can finally handle their wares in person and have a more educated opinion of their offerings. You can only tell so much from pictures on the Interwebz.
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And your point is.....???
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I see no difference in this than the zillions of other "Tactical Axes" being sold by almost everyone. Let's face it, 99.9% of those are being used, at most, to clear some shrubbery and for guys camping, not genuine survival/combat situations. Same with any axe, anyway. You'll find very few professional loggers still falling trees and splitting wood with the use of hand tools these days, it's uneconomical. In the same vein, as you'll find few combat troops are using combat knives to actually fight with (much preferring rifles, or failing that, pistols), I'm sure there's very little if any use of a combat/tactical axe in one hand and pistol in the other, "Indian Warrior" style. Almost everything we discuss here on BF we purchase for enjoyment or athestics' sake, there's no justification- other than personal taste- to buy a sword, no rationalizing owning more than one of each type of any item, be it knife, axe, etc, besides personal taste. I prefer to buy items that are "Battle ready", knowing full well that in all likelihood, I won't ever be battling anything except perhaps the aforementioned shrubbery, or maybe some water filled milk jugs, etc. This axe isn't being marketed as a woodsman's tool, it's marketed for asthetic reasons, the same as a $1200 custom folder,and to criticize someone for collecting what they collect is, in my opinion, in poor taste, as anyone outside the weapons collecting hobby are more than likely to criticize US already.
That actually would be a refreshing change of pace. But the general trend (more of a subjective impression) of those buying these type of implements seems to be satisfying some fantasy scenario, which is then justified by concocting an urgent need for this or that weapon designed and intended for use against other human beings.
What battle do you envision that might require your readiness? And against whom are you anticipating using those "battle ready" weapons?
At least you realize the unlikely possibility of such scenarios. So why not just: "This will be awesome for destroying shrubbery and filed milk jugs"
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My point is, that we purchase these things for enjoyment.
Yes, and that's a very good thing.
I generally don't comment too much on other's work, especially on the ax/tomahawk side of things. It's an even smaller world than the custom knife side!
I do find amusing/aggravating folks on the Interwebz that get discombobulated and insulting because other folks like to buy different cutting tools than they approve of. Seems to happen when I post my tactical 'hawks, and I've also seen it when someone thinks that no one should be using a knife with a blade over four inches that isn't scandi ground out in the woods. My philosophy is that folks should spend their money that they earn honestly on the kinds of cutting implements that they deem will best suit their needs. If that cutting implement is something that I find goofy and overpriced, I can roll my eyes and move along. As long as it's not an out-and-out scam or ripoff, it's the other guy's prerogative to buy what he wants to.
As my mother the teacher worked daily to instill in her students, "In second grade, we leave people and their things alone."
I do have to say that Zombie Tools has some designs I find appealing and others I find less appealing. They seemed to be scouting out the Blade Show this last time. Hopefully next year they might have a table and I can finally handle their wares in person and have a more educated opinion of their offerings. You can only tell so much from pictures on the Interwebz.
I'm with you there, they have some (well most) designs that I find real appealing and its obvious that they're very light-hearted about everything they do. Probably a large part of it is that they're actively targeting the zombie crowd which inevitably draws comments. Honestly, they do the "zombie theme" a heck of a lot better than all the jokers who slap some neon green paint and maybe a few red dots. One thing that is worth noting is where the hate is coming from. While you don't see many videos of people actually using their products, you also don't see those people complaining or upset with their purchase. The way the internet runs, a unhappy customer is much more vocal than a happy one.
They don't seem to be actually advertising their products as survival tools (obviously, that'll change should zombie become real) but they do market their stuff as tough users. Which seems to be the case in any video that I see.
As Kaotic said, we purchase most of this stuff for our enjoyment. I hate to bash the folding knife people but a lot of them seem to gravitate to the outlandish side of designs. I find the fanaticism of "hard-use tactical folders" downright laughable when they expect their knife to perform like a fixed blade. Its especially ironic when you know that crowd will never have their knife cut anything tougher than a tomato or some package tape. But some of those big beefy folders do look really neat and unique. I love to oogle Jim Skelton's folders but he's the exact kind of people I'm referring to and would pay nowhere near what he does for knives.
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Was just a bad joke I guess.
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Now how can you possibly know that? I think it's a LOT more of a "subjective impression".
Come on, man......it's just a term to mean that the sword was made to handle the stresses of its original purpose, nothing more. They are weapons made for battle; so "battle ready" is not an unreasonable way to describe that.
It sounds like kaotikross is just like a lot of us: he doesn't want a cosmetic prop. Why is that so hard for people to accept?
What do people who have no intention of doing that say? Should they be required to only buy props, so as not to upset those who are unable to let others do what makes them happy without making some comment about it?