New knife rumors: 2019 SHOT show

Okay I've wondered off from the Traditional forum again (escaped old smelly dementia member o_O)
Anyway no longer a rumor as dealers are taking early reserve orders but Case will be releasing the Barlow pattern again. Lot's of info in this thread in "Case" anyone's interested. HERE
 
vanadium said:
- Chris Reeve Knives will show a new Inkosi with an officially licensed SpyderHole® opening system and carbon fiber stickers over G10 inlays.
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I’m on the pre-order list. It has that new super special steel - Unobtainium.
 
CRKT just announced its Provoke Karambit. Very interesting morphing design by Joe Caswell. D2 steel. Its a bit hard to swallow with its well over $100 price tag considering msrp is $200. But it is most certainly one of their higher end releases. It does not say where it is made.
 
Lapedog said:
That’s something I would really like to see; production versions of Gareth Bull knives. Me and a friend’s earlier shamwaris both have little issues here and there.

I’m sure a production version would be more standardized on a knife to knife basis and thus these issues could be ironed out.

I wonder if he worries no one will buy a custom shamwari if he does this but really custom knives don’t become less desiresble because a production version is available. Atleast some nice midtechs would be sick. The shamwari is highly desired and I’m almost sure they would sell like hotcakes.

Doesn’t even have to be the shamwari model. He could design a new model.
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Prediction: you’ll see an Alliance Designs Bull Shamwari production model, built by Reate, before 2020.

Educated guess. Gareth Bull was one of the first people to ‘Like’ Alliance Designs on IG, before they were posting or known. As in, one of the first 10 likes on their page.
 
RBid said:
Prediction: you’ll see an Alliance Designs Bull Shamwari production model, built by Reate, before 2020.

Educated guess. Gareth Bull was one of the first people to ‘Like’ Alliance Designs on IG, before they were posting or known. As in, one of the first 10 likes on their page.
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Yeah I know about that. I would really like to see it come true. I’m not sure how confident I am that means Gareth Bull will be doing a Shamwari or any model with them.

Hopefully that will happen or my boy in this thread will get his thing done one of these days. https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/front-flipper-button-lock-design.1602937/
 
This has been my wishlist for nearly a decade now:
Zero Tolerance Emerson 3.75-4" CQC-13 framelock w/wave
Cold Steel Tuff Lite Pro with a tip-up clip, liners, washers, and CTS-XHP or S35VN blade.
 
RBid said:
I want Alliance Designs to bring back the semi-custom Laconico Jasmine as a production piece, with Reate construction, and with the same grind. No damn tanto.
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I doubt Laconico’s agreement with Kizer for the Gemini (their production version of the Jasmine) would allow another “production” model based on the Jasmine design.
 
Honestly, the only halfway likely prediction I can make is that I'll be disappointed in 95% of what gets unveiled, and baffled by 4.9% of the remainder. The past several years have not been especially impressive to me. Lots of cosmetic fluff, not a lot of real substance.
 
OrangeBlueOrangeBlue said:
I doubt Laconico’s agreement with Kizer for the Gemini (their production version of the Jasmine) would allow another “production” model based on the Jasmine design.
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We’re already getting an Angry Baby Bear and a thumb stud Jasmine, and the SC Jasmine initially launched after the Gemini. I think precedent is such that it just has to have distinction. The blade grind, for example. They’d also be in very different price points, rather than stealing business from each other.
 
RBid said:
We’re already getting an Angry Baby Bear and a thumb stud Jasmine, and the SC Jasmine initially launched after the Gemini. I think precedent is such that it just has to have distinction. The blade grind, for example. They’d also be in very different price points, rather than stealing business from each other.
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Make it a hollow grind, with a slightly more narrow tip, made by WE or Reate for $250.
 
Comeuppance said:
This has been my wishlist for nearly a decade now:
Zero Tolerance Emerson 3.75-4" CQC-13 framelock w/wave
Cold Steel Tuff Lite Pro with a tip-up clip, liners, washers, and CTS-XHP or S35VN blade.
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We all would like to see more Emerson framelocks of all kinds. As for ZTs I was pretty disappointed when the 640 didn’t have a wave.

I would like to see ZT produce an Emerson framelock the size of a cqc7 and preferably thinner than the cqc7. Just more Emerson framelocks in general of all sizes plz! (Kershaw’s are nice but a little underwhelming) I doubt they ever will since this would conflict with Emerson’s own HD7

you have no desire to try a cqc12?
 
Spyderco has released their 2019 catalog—they are usually the first company to put out their new catalog.

They have switched to a "rolling release" style (announce new stuff when it is available for purchase) for most new knives.

Lots of companies are doing this now instead of putting everything new in their catalog and then waiting for the new products to be announced.

(I would be surprised if they didn't show anything new at SHOT 2019 though.)

Steel Will Knives has announced a new smaller (3.2-inch) folder called the Piercer. They also have a black-coated blade option on their recent Intrigue folders.

The patent has expired on the Benchmade Axis Lock; Hogue and SOG have introduced their versions. I expect to see more companies doing this too.

The flipper tab style opener system has become quite popular in the past few years. I don't see it slowing down at all for the future.

Will probably see more front-flipper openers too.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
Honestly, the only halfway likely prediction I can make is that I'll be disappointed in 95% of what gets unveiled, and baffled by 4.9% of the remainder. The past several years have not been especially impressive to me. Lots of cosmetic fluff, not a lot of real substance.
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I have done over 30 years of SHOT and every year its the same thing. "There is nothing new of interest to me." "Nothing this year lifts my skirts." "All boring and uninnovative" Yet here we are today with Spyderco, Benchmade, Chris Reeve, ZT etc. Something must have worked.
 
Sidehill Gouger said:
I have done over 30 years of SHOT and every year its the same thing. "There is nothing new of interest to me." "Nothing this year lifts my skirts." "All boring and uninnovative" Yet here we are today with Spyderco, Benchmade, Chris Reeve, ZT etc. Something must have worked.
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It's mostly because they have established catalogs of decent designs that have provided the bulk of the sales. If you look at what happens to new models, most of them stay around for 1-3 years and then fade out. Probably about 1% of all knife designs released in a given year stick around longer than that.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
It's mostly because they have established catalogs of decent designs that have provided the bulk of the sales. If you look at what happens to new models, most of them stay around for 1-3 years and then fade out. Probably about 1% of all knife designs released in a given year stick around longer than that.
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But every one of them was new once at SHOT. I can guarantee from experience someone was walking around complaining about there not being anything innovative or interesting here this year. That is from some one that was there for Spyderco's first SHOT when all they had was a tiny kiosk. Who wants those ugly knives with a hump and a hole in their blade right?
 
Eh. Thing is, I used to be impressed by a lot of the stuff at SHOT, and have been there multiple times. And there have been some genuine innovations some years, and some great designs released over the years. The past, maybe, five years or so, though, have been decidedly stale. We've had major companies like Buck coming out with weird laser-cut "fishing spears" and the like. They're a poor example now, as they got back on track, in my opinion, with the new lightweight versions of the 110 and 112, etc. but the overall trend for the past several years has been largely cosmetic fluff over pragmatic design choices that are founded in tangible advantages.

Good geometry, ergonomics, and attention to the smaller details has been largely passed over. Aesthetics have seemingly been the #1 design concern with the majority of models recently, or at the very least a majority of designs seem to lack a clear functional vision. That doesn't mean in any respect that they won't be money-makers. That's not where my disappointment stems from. My disappointment comes from a design philosophy standpoint. To me, good design should be founded in functional concerns first and foremost, with aesthetics taking a back seat. One refines the aesthetics AFTER the functional parameters have been set, and you work within that framework. And I feel as though a lot of these designs end up coming from asking "what do customers think they want" instead of "what do customers actually want?" While there's no evidence he actually said it, the saying attributed to Henry Ford of "If I had asked customers what they wanted, they would have said faster horses" sort of applies in this case. That's not to say that the voices of customers should be ignored, but rather that customers typically understand their own problems quite well, but are less sure of the form factor that will actually provide the most benefit, so one should be cautious when listening to what customers ask for specific features and try to tease out why they're asking for them. Find out the intended contexts of use, and a clear path to effective design becomes quite clear, and sometimes this may be a good deal different from what market trends have led consumers to think they need. Just look at the sharpened crowbar trend that YouTube "survival knife testing" spawned. As a result, the muddied vision on the part of the industry collectively (yes, there are individual standouts that defy this) has led to a proliferation of designs I consider half-baked.

Does my reasoning for feeling consistently let down in recent years make a bit more sense in light of this? :)
 
Benchmade DLC and a new grind for the 550 series, more shameless money grabs from ZT by making the same model in different color combos, a new batch of Chinese made Kershaw junk knives that are a shadow of the quality they once were.
 
I didn't see a discussion thread for new knives being shown at shot, so I guess I'll just bump this thread and wait. Anyone there?
 
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