new mini dyad jigged bone?

Just under 2.5 inches closed?

So this is a different form factor than the FRN I just pulled out of my pocket, and laid on top of a ruler (it's a little under 3 1/2 inches closed)???

That's one small folder! Uh, smaller than I had hoped -- I was presuming
the form factor would be the same as the FRN Mini-Dyads of old..:confused:
 
Hi Edb,

Yes, the "micro" is a new model altogether. We'll make a short run each year. Different handle material each run.

I thought about a Mini Dyad sprint. The FRN version with a colored handle. (We're discussing sprints for the next year).


sal
 
A mini-dyad sprint of the old form factor would be nice. It's the
right size - 2 1/2 is too small for what I'm looking for...
 
NGK just informed me mine is in. I'm pretty psyched about the Micro Dyad.

Who else has one?
 
I received one from NGK about a week ago. I'm not impressed with the build quality and especially the sharpness of the blades. The blades will "push cut" hair but that is NOT up to Spyderco standards! By the way, these "new" Spyderco serrations are dull compared to the bite of the "old" ones!

I've owned several Dyads in the past including large and small versions and still own a large so I'm not a newcomer here.

The bone scales are wafer thin on my example and not like the pics of the beefy bone scaled prototype that I posted above.

As an owner of many, many Spydercos for 25 years and the Dyad being my favorite Spyder of all time, I am fairly disappointed. It's a great little pocket knife but could have been better.

I will admit that my example could be a exception to the rule but I have to call a spade a spade when I see it. All in all, my Micro Dyad is a wonderful little knife and just the right size for a pocket carry knife but it's quality control is lacking.

That is a shame but shouldn't surprise anyone as Spyderco has subcontracted their knife parts out to several overseas contractors in the last many years. When you buy a Spyderco or any other knife for that matter, it may say; "Seki City" but the parts come from countries all around the world.

I'll sit back and absorb all you young guys criticism for saying all this but like I stated, I've been a Spyder fan for over 25 years and I know when Spyderco's quality is slipping.

This is a really neat little knife but it will go on the block soon and most of you will say; "What the hell was he talking about?" "This knife is a winner!" Yes but it really doesn't exhibit the quality that Spyderco was once famous for!
 
I've been putting off buying a salt because i vacillate daily on the whole "serrated vs plain edge" decision. and because i was waiting for the new dyad. The Dyad would make that whole serrated vs plain edge decision moot.

For now i guess i will just have to keep trying to score an old mini dyad (or two) on ebay to replace my much lamented lost frn mini-dyad. The new micro does sound a little too "micro" for me.

Of course if i ever get to see the micro-dyad up close i may buy one anyway. But as i am at least 1000 miles from a knife shop the chance of that happening is slim to none.
Anybody have a good pics of an actual micro purchased off the shelf?
 
Slatts, like you I got word yesterday from NGK that mine is in, so it should be on its way to me today.

Gene, I too have noticed a general decline in the fit and finish of knives coming out of Seki City over the past couple years. My standard for comparison is early specimens of the jigged bone Kiwi which are put together like the proverbial Swiss watch. From what AG Russell has said, it's a general trend over there, not something confined to Spyderco's suppliers. So no flames from me, but in the interest of fairness, I will point out that all the early Spydercos were manufactured in Japan. I believe the aluminum C15 Terzuola was the first US built model, and even those, and some of the other US built knives that followed, were contracted out. So subcontracting alone is not the culprit. Not sure what is, perhaps the Japanese feel pressured to keep the price gap between their production costs and those of other countries from getting too wide. And, if we're being brutally honest, even the best fit and finish I've ever seen on a Golden built Spyderco was almost crude in comparison with the current crop of Seki built ones. Just compare a T-Mag with a CF Caly 3, or P'kal with a G-10 one.

tholiver - if nobody else has posted good photos of it first, and probably even if they have, :o I'll take and post some photos when mine gets here, which hopefully will be Saturday, or Monday at the latest.

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I got a Micro Dyad from gpknives. Well....I have to agree with man of Gene's points:

Plain blade is fairly sharp, not ultra-sharp.
Serrated blade has shallow, rounded points. It looks nothing like a Spyderco serrated blade.
Build quality is ok, but the fit of the liners to the lock mechanism is poor with fairly large gaps. Fit and thickness of the bone is better than Gene's, but I have never liked this particular bone design, I find it bland and uninteresting, but YMMV.

Bigget problem for me it that it is very difficult to open with one hand - the "hook" on the bolsters interferes with my fat thumb swinging the blade around. Also, the thin, sharp edges of the blade that remains in place is mightly uncomfortable against your fingers when gripping the blade. Rounding the edges on the blade spines would help.

All in all, this one is not going in my pocket, sorry to say.
 
These early reviews are disappointing; I was very much looking forward to this one. Although I'm still in teh Spyderco CC, over the past few years I have become a fan of fixed blades for every day use but this little folder would have been nice to have around when I can’t take a fixed blade out.

Well there are still my Kopas:thumbup:
 
I think I'll buy one to put into my bag. Been looking at Vnoxes and Slipjoints, but this LOCKS (carrying no knife right now, not even my Delicas).

EDIT: I'll wait for a newer one. If I'm only going to have one, it better be good
 
Gene said:
I received one from NGK about a week ago. I'm not impressed with the build quality and especially the sharpness of the blades. The blades will "push cut" hair but that is NOT up to Spyderco standards! By the way, these "new" Spyderco serrations are dull compared to the bite of the "old" ones!
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The serrations are similar to the Jester, right? Or are you comparing to the serrations of a larger blade?

The bone scales are wafer thin on my example and not like the pics of the beefy bone scaled prototype that I posted above.
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You sure about that? Or is it that the enlarged picture of the prototype made you expect more bone?

I respect that you aren't happy with your knife. I just am wondering a little about the context of the above statements.
 
Hi CO,
First, let me say it's a great little knife and is an ideal little pocket knife even though it's very small. It's not too small for my tastes and is one that I've wanted Spyderco to produce for years.

I'm just not completely happy with it's quality as compared to the dozens and dozens of Spydercos I've owned over the last 25 years. No, I wasn't comparing the bone scales to the pictures of the prototype. This particular example's bone scales are wafer thin as I stated and you can almost see through them where they are mated to the bolsters. Not only that but the mating is rough on one end on both sides.

If you're going to use a natural material for scales and especially jigged bone, I much prefer an aesthetically pleasing swell in the middle of the scales unless it's a type such as abalone where it might not be possible.

As far as the serrations go, I can't positively tell you if they're similar to the Jester's as I haven't owned a Jester in several years and my memory fails me. If I had to venture a guess I would say no as I can't ever remember Spyderco serrations that didn't immediately "bite" into whatever you were cutting and believe me, these do not. I would have to try pretty hard just to cut myself with the serrations on this!

I also seem to remember reading somewhere that Spyderco had changed their serrations recently to a more rounded profile so they wouldn't dull as easily. I'll take the old style as they would almost cut by just looking at them! :)

Look, I'm not trying to talk anyone out of purchasing one of these little guys because it is a great little pocket knife. I'm saying that I was a little surprised at it's shortcomings in regular Spyder quality.

My example shows that there was some production time cut in it's manufacture. A little more time and attention to detail could have produced a true GEM of a pocket knife!
 
Thanks Gene. I like the micro dyad as well.

I understand what you are saying now. To me, the dyad's serration blade is very similar to the Jester... Which is why I asked.

I have never owned a "natural material" knife before the dyad. However, I would not want the handle to be any thicker than it is. It is a small knife, and I think Spyderco did a good job at making the handle overall thickness acceptable.
 
Actually we worked quite a bit on trying to make is as thin and light as possible as it will be carried without a clip. Quite a bit of design refinement and mfg refinement required to built it. Even the skeletonized scales were a challenge.

Sorry to those not pleased, we do our best.

It's a new knife with all new problems. It's also a very small knife so the makers haved to put on their "tiny hands" just to build them.

We'll be building 1500 total through out the year. Next years model will have Black Mother of pearl scales. Again 1500 only.

Should be legal just about anywhere (even New York), may UK? No airplanes or schools. NKP friendly (Non-Knife-People).

We thought of it as an elegant small knife solution with dual locking blades, natural scales and first class blade steel. I guess we'll "hide-'n-watch" reaction.

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
Actually we worked quite a bit on trying to make is as thin and light as possible as it will be carried without a clip. Quite a bit of design refinement and mfg refinement required to built it. Even the skeletonized scales were a challenge.
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If it counts, I really like mine. As I mentioned, I wouldn't want it any thicker. Hope to see many handle variations.
 
Mine arrived today, a couple small spots on the edge of the liners are a bit less than perfect, but overall I was very favorably impressed. For those who want to judge for themselves, here are some photos which, aside from resizing them down to a more reasonable size, are just as they came out of the camera. To allow more informed judging of the scale thickness, I included one of my jigged bone Kiwis in several of them.

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Paul, thank you very much for pictures. It looks good.
How comfortable it in your hand?
Roman
 
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Really excellent pics! Thanks!

I may have to give in next year with that Black Mother of pearl model.
What is the street price right now for this run? Or are they all gone?
 
bh49 said:
Paul, thank you very much for pictures. It looks good.
How comfortable it in your hand?
Roman
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Typical Dyad in that regard Roman, the hump of the closed blade makes it fairly uncomfortable to hold. On top of that, again like all the Dyads, it is not very lefty friendly as each blade's spyderhole is blocked by the other blade. For those right handers who see having both a plain and a serrated blade in a single small locking folder as an advantage, the extra thickness, relative to the bolster and scales Kiwi, would be an acceptable tradeoff. Even some lefties may be willing to put up with the "wrong hand" opening since, in reality, this is not the type of knife where quick one handed deployment is a major selling point. However, since I can't recall ever thinking "gee, I wish my Kiwi was serrated", all those things add up to a deal breaker as far as carry goes, despite the fact this style and color of jigged bone is second only to stag on my list of favorite scale materials. So mine will stay home in the display case. OTOH, the SFSW Gaspeite Kiwi which accompanied it on its trip from NGK has already racked up a couple hours inside my watch pocket. ;) :D

tholiver said:
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Really excellent pics! Thanks!

I may have to give in next year with that Black Mother of pearl model.
What is the street price right now for this run? Or are they all gone?
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Street price on these is around $105.


As for the photos, thank you both. Truth is, Felly has some MUCH better ones of his two in his thread in the Spyderco Picture Gallery on the factory forum. Both of his seem to exhibit the same occasional minor rough spots along the open edge of the liners as mine does, so am guessing it's a fairly common issue. However, I can't honestly see any of the other QC issues Gene noted on either of Felly's or on mine.

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