New Mora Bushcraft Black

noviomagus said:
The Robust is like the Compagnon Heavy Duty.
It performs just like the HD.
I have to get one too.
I tell you.
The Mora's and Hultafors are the only knives I own at the moment.
They serve me well.And my hands love to hold them(great ergonomics).
I have had Bark Rivers,SOG ,ESEE etc.
These Mora's and Hultafors are all I need.
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That's my opinion too,they cover all basic needs.
I grew up using Mora models all the time, until 14 years old.when I could buy knives myself.

I wanted models that was more fun and bought a few Solingen bowies.
Those were indeed funnier than a Mora, but I use the Mora's anyway as the good Tools they are.
I still use other brands, but there's always a Mora at hand.

Regards
Mikael
 
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Mikael W said:
That's my opinion too,they cover all basic needs.
I grew up using Mora models all the time, until 14 years old.when I could buy knives myself.

I wanted models that was more fun and bought a few Solingen bowies.
Those were indeed funnier than a Mora, but I use the Mora's anyway as the good Tools they are.
I still use other brands, but there's always a Mora at hand.

Regards
Mikael
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Yes ,but you're a guy from Sweden.
I'm a half Italian guy from The Netherlands.
Mora was not in my basic knife knowledge when growing up.
The stiletto or flick knife was.As all kinds of 'combat' knives.Glock , Ka-bar ,SOG etc.Knives like that .
I found the Mora at a later age .Read about it on the forums.Looked at it as a probable hype.
But when getting into contact with it ,the Mora #711 (awesome grip) and the #840MG at first.I quickly started to notice what fine knives they are.And for a price normal people don't have to stay awake at night .

They are simple of build(which is a big plus in my book),very sharp and easily sharpened,light weight,right size(handy not overly large),splendid/best handle ergo I have met(where I had bad experiences with more expensive brands)in knives.
Now I have quite a few Mora's.

Are you familiar with the Gränsfors Bruks ?
Given the fact you're from Sweden...
Very nice products..
 
Very cool story!

I certainly appreciate when people goes from weaponrylike models to real knives for real use!:thumbup:

Gränsfors?
Yes I have a few GB and others like the Hultafors handforged.
Both brands are great, the GB Mini and the 500 gram Hultafors hatchet are of my liking.
The Wetterling 500 gram has a good heat-treatment,but a short (33cm) handle.
The Hultafors balances better with the 38 cm handle.

So, a Laplander saw, a Hultafors or GB hatchet and a Mora Robust are great tools in the Outdoors.
The set isn't overly expensive and will last for decades of adventures.

Regards
Mikael
 
Don’t underestimate the dark side of the Mora.
They can be very dangerous as well. And all the qualities I named are very useful in a combat knife too.
The only ‘downside’ for a combat knife is maybe the length of the Mora. But if you know how to use a knife it won’t be a problem either.

But I have no plans on sticking knives into people .So..

How does the Hultafors 500 gram hatchet compare to the Gränsfors wildlife hatchet?

That Hultafors hatchet looks very nice by the way.
Does it have the round metal wedge in the haft?

I sharpened again the Mora black for a longer time.And it does have a bit of a concave form at the single bevel.
It was quite obvious to see(due to the contrast with the black coating).
It still doesn't cut pinewood as well as my Mora Compagnon Heavy Duty.
Which has a more comfortable handle also.
Well for me that is..
 
noviomagus said:
1.Don’t underestimate the dark side of the Mora.
They can be very dangerous as well. And all the qualities I named are very useful in a combat knife too.
The only ‘downside’ for a combat knife is maybe the length of the Mora. But if you know how to use a knife it won’t be a problem either.

But I have no plans on sticking knives into people .So..

2.How does the Hultafors 500 gram hatchet compare to the Gränsfors wildlife hatchet?

3.That Hultafors hatchet looks very nice by the way.
Does it have the round metal wedge in the haft?

4.I sharpened again the Mora black for a longer time.And it does have a bit of a concave form at the single bevel.
It was quite obvious to see(due to the contrast with the black coating).
It still doesn't cut pinewood as well as my Mora Compagnon Heavy Duty.
Which has a more comfortable handle also.
Well for me that is..
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1. I don't underestimate, I did loose a friend in a meaningless act of violence with a Mora by an insane person.

2. I don't have the GB wildlife as I found the Hultafors to be what I looked for.
The #1 pic shows the Hultafors together with the Wetterling and an older nobrand hatchet.
I also use an Estwing and I like those but the Hultafors is in a class of it's own.
The other pics show it in use making a spoon out of a shed Moose antler.

3.Yes it has the round metalwedge.

4.I understand, same conclusion here too!:thumbup:


Regards
Mikael

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1.That’s sad to hear about your friend.
Was that insane person on drugs?
You see that more often these days. Drugs and alcohol then going berserk.
Then again,you got those people here in Holland too.
Committing extreme violence ,just because. No reason except them being scumbags.


2. The Hultafors looks good .But the Wetterlings is also a nice one. Short sized handle. I like the look of it. It can be handy.
Which Estwing do you have?
That is beautiful antler spoon you made.

3.Are round metal wedges more secure, do you know about this..


Is that a Fällkniven H1 in pic2? I had one. Good knife. More grip than the F1.Fuller handle.
But still.
I prefer the Mora’s.

By the way.”Even” my Mora 511 outcuts the Bushcraft Black easily when cutting pinewood.
No kidding..Fffew.
 
The Black has a more pronounced secondary bevel. That may have something to do with it.
 
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1. No drugs, this was a clear case of mental illness.

2. The Estwing is the #14.
I always wanted one because they are so beautiful!

3. I have no clue, but it seems to be secure.

4.Yes it's the H1, a very beefy 4" hunting & allround knife.Great grip and Great knife!

5.The 511 is a serious tool in any toolbox.

Regards
Mikael
 
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FortyTwoBlades said:
The Black has a more pronounced secondary bevel. That may have something to do with it.
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I guess this may vary,as mine was sharp out of the package and was easy to strop after some use.
It wasn't as sharp as some other models,with thinner edges, but that's no issue as I see it, as I will do a convex on it in due time.

Regards
Mikael
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
The Black has a more pronounced secondary bevel. That may have something to do with it.
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Yeah,The angle is much more pronounced.
And the Compagnon Heavy Duty outcuts the Black easily.
Even after sharpening.
I could convex it.
But I rather sell it for an ok price(and a couple of other new Black's),what I just did this evening to someone who does appreciate it for what it is.

I stick to the Compagnon and HD and other Mora's.
The Black is not for me.
No problemo.

Mikael W said:
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1. No drugs, this was a clear case of mental illness.

2. The Estwing is the #14.
I always wanted one because they are so beautiful!

3. I have no clue, but it seems to be secure.

4.Yes it's the H1, a very beefy 4" hunting & allround knife.Great grip and Great knife!

5.The 511 is a serious tool in any toolbox.

Regards
Mikael
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1.Ok, yes these things can happen.I had a brother who had mental ilness starting in his early twenties.He ,thank God,didn't kill anyone.But himself,or it was an accident.We still don't know for sure.Could be an impulsive thing.
But people with severe mental problems should be taken care of before these things can happen..

2.The Sportman's hatchet.With the leather handle.
I had the Camper's axe with vinyl handle.I found it just a tad to large and heavy to wield it with one hand.

3.The round wedge spreads the force in a circle,so I thought maybe that's even better?
I don't know either,actually :-P.

4.Beefy ,that's the right word for the H1.Nice little beefy knife.Trustable thing.

5. Even though ,;-P, it is cheap,I like it a lot.
I had put a piece of inner bike tube over the handle.
It has super grip this way.
Such a light weight little knife.But what a cutting performance.
 
Mikael W said:
I guess this may vary,as mine was sharp out of the package and was easy to strop after some use.
It wasn't as sharp as some other models,with thinner edges, but that's no issue as I see it, as I will do a convex on it in due time.

Regards
Mikael
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The coating process is what causes the slightly lesser degree of sharpness out of the box, but as you say it's very quick to remedy. The "lack of sharpness" that I was addressing was the way cutting performance is affected by the geometry difference of the Black's blade vs. standard.
 
1.Sorry to hear about Your brother!
I wish the mental care would be more effective than they are!

5. I cut off the guard of my #511's and make them into the guardless #510.
It's a way better grip.


Regards
Mikael
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
The coating process is what causes the slightly lesser degree of sharpness out of the box, but as you say it's very quick to remedy. The "lack of sharpness" that I was addressing was the way cutting performance is affected by the geometry difference of the Black's blade vs. standard.
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I find this a little bit interesting and I will keep an eye on this coating before I do any beltsanding.

Regards
Mikael
 
Mikael W said:
1.Sorry to hear about Your brother!
I wish the mental care would be more effective than they are!

5. I cut off the guard of my #511's and make them into the guardless #510.
It's a way better grip.


Regards
Mikael
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1.Yeah,same here. I think that the medical community still lacks knowledge to deal with many illnesses.
They can suppress a lot with pills. But solving..Not much.

5.I like a little guard on my knives .Not big guards. Those get in the way.
No guard is not my preference. Like in the Mora #1 and 2 with the wooden handle .
Those can be slick when wet...ouch
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
The coating process is what causes the slightly lesser degree of sharpness out of the box, but as you say it's very quick to remedy. The "lack of sharpness" that I was addressing was the way cutting performance is affected by the geometry difference of the Black's blade vs. standard.
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Yes and that difference is very noticable to me.
All my other Mora's slide easier through pinewood than the Black.
You can feel the difference when you go with the index finger over that sharp anglebevel.The differences between the Black and the other Mora's.
I also think that this is the reason of lesser performance.
 
Mikael W said:
I find this a little bit interesting and I will keep an eye on this coating before I do any beltsanding.

Regards
Mikael
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It's not literally the coating that causes the issue so much as the fact that the application of the coating post-sharpening at the factory. The very fine factory edge is very very slightly degraded by the coating process. :)
 
Well, I took the Black to the workshop and started to give it my kind of working edge.
It didn't need much work to start cutting like other Mora's.
The coarse surface finish is a little bit smoother and yes it instantly cuts better!

The Black will be a good carbonsteel knife, but only without the black surface...

Regards
Mikael
 
I'm a real big fan of scandi puukko's...this one is a winner. Mine came with a very tiny micro bevel and not sharp to my standard...whetstones fixed that pretty quickly :)
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Hi,
I recently bought Mora Bushcraft Black and I can say that's really good knife. Factory sharp,very comfortable in hand.
But,I got sheath with only belt loop. And I will like to have belt clip.

So,if any one of you got a belt clip and don't need it,please send me a PM. I will gladly buy it from you.

Thank you in advance.

Woody
 
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