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VG10 holds an edge much better than 440C.
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I had a SPOT in VG-10 with the Micarta handle and I loved it. If you produce a Swick with the same sort of handle, I'm buying!
Sal! Please do the Swick re-run already!
All this talk about the Swick is giving me withdrawal symptoms...
It's preventing me from trying on anything else around the neck.
The Swick has got to be "the most awesome pain-free noose attachment ever deviced", thanks to its intelligent weight and size.
But, seeing the blade shape itself (to me at least) - is simply a god sent.
All this talk about the Swick is giving me withdrawal symptoms...
It's preventing me from trying on anything else around the neck.
The Swick has got to be "the most awesome pain-free noose attachment ever deviced", thanks to its intelligent weight and size.
But, seeing the blade shape itself (to me at least) - is simply a god sent.
TheWayOfTheGun1
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Count me in!
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I like the stone wash finish. The ETA wil be soon I hope.
Before we get too excited, remember they're only thinking about doing it.
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At least they are thinking!
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After thinking and playing with the Swick for a bit. I would like to see a shorter handled Swick with a hawk bill blade.
I think that would be a real nice SD tool as well as a handy alround cutter. The smaller handle would make it better for belt carry and the concealment factor would be increased over the original as well. The handle design is fine as it is but just making it one finger shorter would make it all the better IMO :thumbup:
I think that would be a real nice SD tool as well as a handy alround cutter. The smaller handle would make it better for belt carry and the concealment factor would be increased over the original as well. The handle design is fine as it is but just making it one finger shorter would make it all the better IMO :thumbup:
You just described the Emerson La Griffe.
I agree a smaller handle would be nice, like the SPOT, but I'd be content f it was rereleased with the current dimensions. I think the current wharncliffe blade is perfect for both SD and utility.
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Hi Haze,
We spent a lot of time and effort refining and developin the handle on the Swick. We started out with one of Fred Perrin's models and "ergo'd" from there. First the SPOT and then the Swick, and then the Caspian.
The Swick as we made it is hard to drop or have twist in your hand regardless of the motion. From a fujntion point of view, I don't think I'd want to shrink the handle.
Have you handled and used them ( laGriffe or SPOT or Swick) or are you going from appearance?
sal
We spent a lot of time and effort refining and developin the handle on the Swick. We started out with one of Fred Perrin's models and "ergo'd" from there. First the SPOT and then the Swick, and then the Caspian.
The Swick as we made it is hard to drop or have twist in your hand regardless of the motion. From a fujntion point of view, I don't think I'd want to shrink the handle.
Have you handled and used them ( laGriffe or SPOT or Swick) or are you going from appearance?
sal
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Sal.
I like the Swick exactly as is, I have never owned a neck knife that handled as well as the Swick. It is invisable under a T-shirt and carrys well in a pants pocket. I own three Swicks and will buy two more just as you make them available. Thanks for your effort in creating the SWICK, a great knife!!
I like the Swick exactly as is, I have never owned a neck knife that handled as well as the Swick. It is invisable under a T-shirt and carrys well in a pants pocket. I own three Swicks and will buy two more just as you make them available. Thanks for your effort in creating the SWICK, a great knife!!
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Hi Sal,
I actually own all 3
:thumbup:I didnt want to sound negative as the handle on the swick/spot is great, its secure and comfortable and works really well.
I feel purley from a carry and concealment point of view that a shorter handle would work better, for me any way. I'm really not fond of neck carry so i usually always mount the smaller blades on my belt in front of the hip rather than on a potential garot
(If I carry them on a shoulder rig they feel near perfect so i dont want to sound like im totally dissing the handle design.)Belt carry is why i arrived at the conclusion a slightly shorter handle would be a bit better for that method as shoulder rigs can be frownd upon in places and are not always convenient.
Horizontal belt carry is fine but you do have a bit of protrusion advertising the knife through a T-shirt or what ever, if its monted verticaly the longer handle can be a bit uncomfortable.
They do feel great, its just my guts dont always agree with that when I sit down
Sal,
I also believe that the Swick's handle is perfect. It's been my EDC since it first came out. My only (tiny tiny) complaint would be the tip of the sheath is a little bit too long.
Have you thought about using a different blade shape instead of the warncliff in the next release? E.g., a "Salsawick" with wide flatground leaf blade would be really, really, really wonderful!
I also believe that the Swick's handle is perfect. It's been my EDC since it first came out. My only (tiny tiny) complaint would be the tip of the sheath is a little bit too long.
Have you thought about using a different blade shape instead of the warncliff in the next release? E.g., a "Salsawick" with wide flatground leaf blade would be really, really, really wonderful!
Sal Glesser
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If I were going to change shapes, I would go to something that had multipurpose function.
The original SPOT was designed primarily for SD with a focus on the needs of the ladies. It had both belly and hook. With teeth, not much to stop it.
With the Swick, I used the opportunity to refine the "Perrin-Finger-hole" concept. I like to use the idea with a more substantial handle than Fred uses. He's a real minimalist. I saw a coin he had made that had a sliding blade inside. A really deep thinker.
I realize that the larger handle is a bit more "stuff" than a smaller handle, but I feel the trade-off for security is worth the cost. No mater what, you cannot drop the knife!
I think the pattern (shape) of the Swick handle works. But small refinements are always possible.
If I were to changethe blade shape, I would more than likely go with a shape that has some belly as opposed to a warnie. Some type of spear, leaf or drop point. Working on the Caspian model (H1 dive model), which also uses Fred's finger hole, taught us a few new details that were important.
The first question would be the length of the blade. The shape will be based on the length. I Think the Swick blade was a good size, maybe 1/4" longer in a new shape would probably fit. It's important, in my opinion, that the knife not be too long. The hand position is somewhat fixed. The center of effort (sweet spot) shouldn't be too far from the finger hole to optimize force and minimize twist.
Steel has been questioned. We used S30V on the Swick. We had it. We could make it thick enough to not need a handle, and we could run it through the Golden plant. That's the easiest.
Some have suggested making it cheaper. Hard to do without dropping quality or going offshore or both.
We could make it like a mule team and offer no sheath. you get your own?
sal
The original SPOT was designed primarily for SD with a focus on the needs of the ladies. It had both belly and hook. With teeth, not much to stop it.
With the Swick, I used the opportunity to refine the "Perrin-Finger-hole" concept. I like to use the idea with a more substantial handle than Fred uses. He's a real minimalist. I saw a coin he had made that had a sliding blade inside. A really deep thinker.
I realize that the larger handle is a bit more "stuff" than a smaller handle, but I feel the trade-off for security is worth the cost. No mater what, you cannot drop the knife!
I think the pattern (shape) of the Swick handle works. But small refinements are always possible.
If I were to changethe blade shape, I would more than likely go with a shape that has some belly as opposed to a warnie. Some type of spear, leaf or drop point. Working on the Caspian model (H1 dive model), which also uses Fred's finger hole, taught us a few new details that were important.
The first question would be the length of the blade. The shape will be based on the length. I Think the Swick blade was a good size, maybe 1/4" longer in a new shape would probably fit. It's important, in my opinion, that the knife not be too long. The hand position is somewhat fixed. The center of effort (sweet spot) shouldn't be too far from the finger hole to optimize force and minimize twist.
Steel has been questioned. We used S30V on the Swick. We had it. We could make it thick enough to not need a handle, and we could run it through the Golden plant. That's the easiest.
Some have suggested making it cheaper. Hard to do without dropping quality or going offshore or both.
We could make it like a mule team and offer no sheath. you get your own?
sal