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I don't like the new system, I think the older system worked better.
I agree that the old system worked much better for all dealers posting in the FS by Individual exchange forums.
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I don't like the new system, I think the older system worked better.
I agree that the old system worked much better for all dealers posting in the FS by Individual exchange forums.
Dont care for new system , hard to sell a knife on the 8th page , i have 120 hits put the same knife on another site at the same time it has 530 hits not to hard to figure out which is more effective , john
That's says a lot right there!
I like the new system. I check the Sales forums daily and I no longer have to sift through countless bumped threads. All of the new threads are displayed right on the first page. If I have an interest in a particular item and I want to watch it, I simply subscribe to the thread.
Dont care for new system , hard to sell a knife on the 8th page , i have 120 hits put the same knife on another site at the same time it has 530 hits not to hard to figure out which is more effective , john
That's says a lot right there!
I like the new system as a buyer for all the reasons others have said.
As a seller I don't think it makes a difference. If you have a desirable knife and/or a desirable price then it will sell within minutes or hours. If not then it will languish unsold under either system. Don't believe me? Post a NIB Paramilitary 2 S90V for $140 and see how long it takes to sell. Price the same knife at $400 and see how many months it remains unsold.
Market forces remain constant regardless of how you view the pages.
If you were to post the Para at $400 and then reduced it with a corresponding bump until it hit an attractive price, it would sell regardless of the starting price.
It might be relatively easy to determine the going market price on a production knife, but when it is a custom, it is not as cut and dried. You don't know what the market will support in price-especially during this economic time. You have to "ballpark" the price and then reduce it. You also have to be able to get prospective buyers to see it.
That is not the purpose of gold/platinum memberships and the 'for sale by individual' fora. If you are selling with the intent to make money, and not just change up your collection - then you need a maker or dealer membership, your own sub-forum, or a retail website.The old system fit what we are all about in the United States...hard work to develop a reputation and product and compete to make money.
This would be a good part about the lack of bumping. This should slow down volatility in pricing. Removing speculators from the pool is also a good thing imo, Spark apparently has zero intent to cater to them. Making the seller do some work is not a bad thing, especially if their intent is to profit. If people aren't going to invest time, effort, or money, then they shouldn't profit. Maybe they can break even or reduce a loss, which is what the overwhelming majority do when they sell their personal stuff in every other venue.I've seen market value change based on demand in one week, and sometimes it can swing 50% in that amount of time. The old system allowed you to determine the new market value of a knife by maintaining exposure to the full pool of buyers until the knife sold. Under the new system, you have to guess what the market price might be because you're worried if it doesn't sell in the first 2 days alot less people will be seeing it. In short, it makes other forums more attractive because you can determine the real market value.
As a seller, you have to do alot of research, try to price the knife right at previous selling points (not always the new market value) or under, and go for a fast sale rather than take 1 -2 weeks. Hopefully there will still be some sellers that don't mind taking 3 months to sell a knife and will start their sales at very high prices, because that's the only way to track the movement of market value for some knives.
Well Said, lock and load.No offense, but every post you make is getting more ridiculous than the last. This isn't pork belly futures. 3 months to sell a knife? Seriously? Sellers aren't already doing research (using, gasp, the SEARCH FEATURE) to figure out pricing? C'mon.
Practically every buyer has come in and said it's much easier and a better setup now. As sellers this should REALLY mean something to you; if they like it better, it's going to be easier for them to purchase. That you aren't able to bump your threads doesn't matter to them - if your thread wasn't on the pages they browsed through, or if they missed it, they were going to have to search for your item anyhow. This is one of the reasons that having the search open to everyone really helps sellers.
I'm tired of hearing about how other forums are more attractive; especially from the same few people over and over and over again. We get it, you don't like it, you may head elsewhere. The question is, it's been over 2 weeks since we've put in the new default sort. Are your items not selling? How many haven't sold? Have you relisted them?
Blaming the sort for your stuff (possibly) not moving is pretty dumb. Sure, the last post listing could be abused to keep your listing up top, but plenty of people are able to sell stuff via auctions and classifieds listings at other sites. Does eBay let you bump? Craigslist?
I'm about ready to close this. It's becoming increasingly obvious that some people aren't going to be happy unless they can bump to their heart's content, whether their stuff sells or not. The buyers, on the other hand, don't care.
No offense, but every post you make is getting more ridiculous than the last. This isn't pork belly futures. 3 months to sell a knife? Seriously? Sellers aren't already doing research (using, gasp, the SEARCH FEATURE) to figure out pricing? C'mon.
Practically every buyer has come in and said it's much easier and a better setup now. As sellers this should REALLY mean something to you; if they like it better, it's going to be easier for them to purchase. That you aren't able to bump your threads doesn't matter to them - if your thread wasn't on the pages they browsed through, or if they missed it, they were going to have to search for your item anyhow. This is one of the reasons that having the search open to everyone really helps sellers.
I'm tired of hearing about how other forums are more attractive; especially from the same few people over and over and over again. We get it, you don't like it, you may head elsewhere. The question is, it's been over 2 weeks since we've put in the new default sort. Are your items not selling? How many haven't sold? Have you relisted them?
Blaming the sort for your stuff (possibly) not moving is pretty dumb. Sure, the last post listing could be abused to keep your listing up top, but plenty of people are able to sell stuff via auctions and classifieds listings at other sites. Does eBay let you bump? Craigslist?
I'm about ready to close this. It's becoming increasingly obvious that some people aren't going to be happy unless they can bump to their heart's content, whether their stuff sells or not. The buyers, on the other hand, don't care.