New sebenza prices for 2005

Tris:

This isn't a complicated situation. Chris runs a small shop and is overwhelmed by orders. Value is in the eyes of the beholder. I'm not going to buy a Sebbie for $330,000.00. If you feel the prices are out of line, then that's fine, no one is forcing you to buy a Sebbie. If enough people decide that the prices are too high then Chris will have to either lower the price or go out of business. Raising prices was a business decision made by Chris. He will have to live or die by the wisdom of his choice. Like I said earlier I think at the new price structure, the prices are more than fair. But that is just my opinion and I will support it by continuing to buy CRK products.
 
tristram is just asking what you guys would pay for a sebenza?
just how much are you guys willing to shell out for this so called "perfection"?
put a price on it and stop dicking around!! i will start it of by saying i would buy a sebenza if i could find one for under $200

...justin
 
justice said:
just how much are you guys willing to shell out for this so called "perfection"? put a price on it and stop dicking around!! i will start it of by saying i would buy a sebenza if i could find one for under $200

...justin
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Justin,

I can be wrong of course, but for me sebenza is not "so called perfection". It's just perfect execution of a Chris' perfect folder. It's been around for years now and is still on top. Chris Reeve Knives has received more Blade Quality Awards for their products than any other company. Not for "best buy", not for "design", not for "collector / investment knife" etc. but for quality. So, if there is any company that produces "perfect knives" than it is Chris Reeve Knives. You can of course argue with the design as that's also a personal issue, but one thing is for sure: Sebenza is perfectly-made-knife-no-doubt-about-it.

Anyway, if you need good quality Ti & S30V folder in $200 range than just look around and you'll find couple of great knives in that range easily. Nobody forces you to buy Sebenza! And I'll not even try to convince you that Sebenza is better and that what you get is a fair deal for the price... maybe one day you'll also understand that? Who knows...

Bottom line: for me personally, if CRK needs to increase prices a bit to keep the quality and service level it's ok with me. Business ethics that Chris and Anne show has been always top-notch so if there is any increase I'm sure it is more than needed and always fair.
 
lmao!!! you still did not answer the queston just how much are you willing to pay for a sebenza? how much of an increase will be to much?
im not convinced of this perfection who is willing to sell me a sebenza for $150 :) i wont go higher then $200
...justin
 
How much one pays for perfections depends on

1) each persons definition of perfection.
2) how much money they feel like spending
3) How important perfect is to that person.
4) How much perfection they already own.

To answer such a question is just what amount to an individual's opiniion. In the objective sense it has no relevence to anyone but the person that has that opinion.

You're not willing to pay more then $200. That's perfectly fine, in fact I've seen used sebenzas for for as low as $175, though that price is unusual.

I'd not be willing to pay more then $275 or so for a used plain sebenza. Why? Because they regularly come up for sale at that price (or below) .

I'd be willing to pay full price + price increase for a LE wood, if I liked it, and had the money.

It's already been said, but so far, I'm not aware of any knife that matches the sebenzas design and F&F (quality) for less.

A lochsa comes close for example, but it has a couple of things that detract.
 
I may be totally off but most of the whiners on increased price would more than likely NOT stay at their jobs if the boss come in and said that their paychecks would be cut and cut... well as a small business owner about everytime we set prices out our profit tend to start to go down- I mean taxes go up- utilities go up- employee costs go up etc. That cause our percentage of profit to start falling almost immediately. How long should we go and to what point should I sacrifice my living because of "percieved gouging etc" They want to say that "well you can buy one as good for less" generally even if close thay aren't as good- thats fine buy it. Also those same guys in in the US whine about the cost of the knife not realizing the costs involved would probably have a hard time if we brought a worker that could do their job into the states to do their job for less- or outsource it even. Well why whine if we can save the consumer money? Last I heard CRK employs US workers- not oversea's ones. I really don't think we are talking apples to apples etc. But that is just my opinion. As far as the guys that "can't afford one"- I'd almost bet they have their ciggarette and beer money, we all choose what we will buy and that is fine. I think the cost issues are better spoken for by the sales of the product. I don't really feel that I nor any other manufacturer of a non essential product should have to explain the cost/profit structure to anyone- don't feel you get value from it- don't buy it. Don't come into that mans "house" or forum to basically call him a crook. I guess it really boils down to the if we have to explain it to you there is no reason too :rolleyes:
 
to be honest i would most likely pay more then that for a sebenza(if i had the money) . im just fishing for a GOOD PRICE!! :) LOL and if i found one used at 175 to 200 i would jump on it. then even if i did not like it i know i could get my money back if i sold it. or get even more if i hold on to it for a few years(new or used)
on another note how much do you think it costs to produce a sebenza?

if crk made a sebenza with a lesser blade steel (ats-34 aus8) and stainless steel handels same qc/f&f for half the price of the curent sebenza's would you guys buy them? think i would
...justin
 
if crk made a sebenza with a lesser blade steel (ats-34 aus8) and stainless steel handels same qc/f&f for half the price of the curent
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This has been covered before, but material costs are likely a small percentage of the overall cost of the knife. Making it is the costly part. Besides if you're making the best, and can't keep up, why dilute your brand to make something less expensive?

There is a sebbie look alike made by vtech, I think the handles are aluminum and it's a liner lock. They cost $40. You could buy one and let us know how you like it.
 
Holy crap.....some people just don't get it. If you can't afford it don't friggin' buy it. If you wanna buy a lesser knife than by all means go ahead. But I doubt very highly it will have the same quality as a Sebenza. CRK knives are tops in my book. I would pay whatever price is set by Chris. There are no compromises for quality. The knife itself is perfect as is the customer service that comes along with it. Make up your own mind. But don't come crying to us when your $500 custom folder or $40 POS knock-off takes a crap on you and breaks when you need it most. Unless you have held and used one I would shut the hell up.
 
tallpaul said:
Ken - tell us how you really feel :D
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You really wanna know?! I am sick and tired of hearing everyone bitch about how expensive a Sebenza is...especially from those who never handled or used the knife. STFU already! Love it or leave it.
 
K.V. Collucci said:
I would pay whatever price is set by Chris.
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wow that is a bold statment i hope crk does not take you up on that offer
by the way why are you sick of people bitching about expensive prices if people did not do this we would be paying $10,000 for internet service and another $20,000 for phone service.
would you not like to pay less for a sebenza? if you find a deal on one your not guna jump on it?
by the way K.V. Collucci what is the highest price you would pay for a sebenza?
...justin
 
Yes it is a bold statement. And one I stand by. Some of you people have never even held or used a Sebenza. You cry and moan, "The Sebenza is too expensive.....WAAAAAAAH!!!!...I'll only buy one if I can get it cheap.....WAAAAAH!!!...Otherwise I wouldn't own one.......WAAAAAH!!!!.....I'm too cheap to buy one at full price....WAH! WAH! WAAAAAAH!!!!!" Stop your crying and stop wasting your money on buying the cheap stuff and save it to buy a Sebenza. The price CRK puts on the Sebenza is more than reasonable considering the time and effort it goes into making it. Like I said before.....love it or leave it. Keep buying your cheap $40 knock offs and I'll stick with the one knife that I know won't break when I need it most.

Oh yeah.........If I found one cheaper I would most certainly buy it. But I would also buy a Sebenza at full price because I know that I will be getting the best knife for the buck.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! Crybabies.
 
There ARE some collector quality CR Knives out there that will be worth some good money one day. I have one wood inlay Damascus that I EDC, and collect other unusual Sebs and Umfaans. It's been expensive but well worth it.
 
lol you must be a stern fan waaaahh lol
ill ask again what is the highest price you would pay for a sebenza if crk keeps raising the prices? another words at what price will you stop buying them? how high is to high? how many ways do i have to ask?

...justin
 
Of course I should have added "for me personally"... and yes, for me this question is at least strange. Especially on Chris' own forum.
 
Personally, I would not pay more than $400 for any Sebenza, large, small, decorated or otherwise, that I use and carry everyday. $400 is my beater threshold, and this threshold is a very personal thing. For some, it does not exist, and they would carry and use a more expensive model with inlays, damascus, etc. with no worries. I've had the more expensive models, but ended up selling them for fear of boogering up the wood, or that the damascus would not perform like the S30V.

Not that it's here nor there, but personally, I believe Chris' knives are worth every bit of the increase and then some. However, and this has been said before, if you're a knifeaholic, and you're paying retail for any knife, you're not taking advantage of the forums!

Professor.
 
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