New Truck advice requested

Have you picked a truck?

Not really. Am pretty sold on the Toyota, especially after having test driven it, but really feel like I should take a look at Ford, even though the three('82 Granada, 70's Fairlane, '89 Ranger) I have owned sucked completely.

It's going to be a while now, regardless(at least 18 mos) some projects have come up that are more important.

Best Regards,

Steven Garsson
 
Hey Steven, I'll say Me and my entire family ran GMC forever, then I drove a Dodge and that was it for me. That was back In 96 which my son still drives on a daily basis . This is my current truck 04 5.7 Hemi rumble bee. and it works great for prairy dogging.
Tony
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It's pretty obvious American trucks own the truck market. They always have. Anyone towing or hauling real weight has a heavy duty turbo diesel.

Toyota makes decent trucks, but they have yet to fill the heavy duty truck roll. Plus they're overpriced because of their "reliability" reputation.

I priced out a fully loaded Tundra when I was looking at trucks and it was $5000 more than my fully loaded Dodge Ram. To be fair, GMC was overpriced too.

Needless to say, I am happy with my Ram. With it's well engineered Hemi, it hauls ass and still can pull down 23mpg in 4cyl MDS mode.
 
You've had bad Fords 20 years ago ??? The company has changed as has the technology.The F150 has received excellent reviews by everyone who has one. I just got one ,my third , with no problems.
 
I had a light duty 6 cyl Ranger 1999. I bought it used. It was one of those flex fuel models. It was a 5 spd manual 4x4. It had no guts what so ever. It started sucking a quart of oil between changes after I had it for a year. It had under 90k miles on it. I was very unimpressed with the Ranger. I drive a 6cyl auto extra cab Frontier for edd. I sometimes step on it to enter the freeway, and feel like I am launched, it really has some torque. I wish I could say the same about Ford. I am not a full size truck guy, just a truck guy. I drive 600 + miles a week for work and do not need a tank. I wish I would have gotten a 4x4 however.
 
I used to be a Ford truck woman, until my '04 CC 6.0 Diesel. It left me stranded twice; once in the dead of a particularly nasty NE Winter. When it was time to trade it in, I mentally had planned on getting an F-150 Super Crew. But, for S &G, I decided to test drive a Tundra. I found myself telling my Ford dealer that I wanted the Tundra instead. I LOVE my '06 Tundra!! I really felt like it out classed the F-150, and the 4.7 L engine felt more powerful than the 5.4. I still LOVE my Toyota. In fact, when it is time to get another truck, I WILL be getting another Tundra. I don't see myself going back to Ford. I never had ANY trouble with any of the Ford trucks I had, except the diesel. Although that new Raptor looks pretty tempting. If it only came in a CC.......
 
Can't beat Toyota's reliability. We have had many other brands and the Toyota's have gave no trouble. Can't say the same about the rest.
My 07 FJ hauls ass and it feels very secure doing it. I'm getting new tires before winter all the way around and bring on the snow. (they are gonna be luggers)
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Not really. Am pretty sold on the Toyota, especially after having test driven it, but really feel like I should take a look at Ford, even though the three('82 Granada, 70's Fairlane, '89 Ranger) I have owned sucked completely.

Steven Garsson
The Granda and Fairlane were some of the worst cars ever made. The New Ford truck are good trucks. Most any new full size truck is going to be pretty decent imo
 
I have owned Fords and Chevy's and worked at a Chevy dealer as a tech. In 05 I bought a Dodge CC 2500 series 4x4 with the Cummins and 6 speed. Best truck I have ever owned period. I get 20 mpg empty and believe it or not when towing a 7000lbs trailer I get 20mpg
 
As far as "buy American" goes I do believe that Chrysler is the only one of the big three who makes and sells anything close to the majority of its vehicles in North America. Ford has been one of the top automakers in Europe for decades even before the bought Volvo, etc.and was, at one time in the mid 80's before the post fall automaker buying spree by the Euro companies, bigger than VW in Germany. They still may be number 2. GM is the same way. The vaunted Pontiac GTO of recent years was actually a Holden Monaro built in Australia and given a face lift for the Us market. Most of your larger rear drive auto chassis in the GM fleet today are based on a Holden design. The big Saturn sedan and one of their other cars are rebadged Opels.

That is something that really confuses me. GM owns(ed) overseas assets that were producing excellent vehicles, most of which never see the roads in USA when they should have been produced there. The turbo Diesel Isuzu Pickups go and go and go. Cheap to run and my friend has several that have averaged 150'000km/year mostly hauling 2-4tonnes in special trailers.

We get the F250 Turbo Diesel that is magic loads of space and grunt.
 
Needless to say, I am happy with my Ram. With it's well engineered Hemi, it hauls ass and still can pull down 23mpg in 4cyl MDS mode.

That's impressive. My little '06 Subaru Impreza doesn't get much better mileage than that... but I still loves it.
 
The window sticker said 14city 19hwy, which would be an accurate avg.

But at 60mph in 4cyl MDS mode, my truck holds 23mpg. I made a 5000mi roadtrip to Iowa last summer and averaged 21mpg the whole trip. Not bad for a 350hp 5.7L Hemi
 
It's pretty obvious American trucks own the truck market. They always have. Anyone towing or hauling real weight has a heavy duty turbo diesel.

Toyota makes decent trucks, but they have yet to fill the heavy duty truck roll. Plus they're overpriced because of their "reliability" reputation.

I priced out a fully loaded Tundra when I was looking at trucks and it was $5000 more than my fully loaded Dodge Ram. To be fair, GMC was overpriced too.

Needless to say, I am happy with my Ram. With it's well engineered Hemi, it hauls ass and still can pull down 23mpg in 4cyl MDS mode.

The vast majority of pickup owners never haul anything heavier then a dog and some kids on a routine basis and rarely pull a trailer. The added expense of a diesel isn't generally worth it for most people who aren't pulling a heavy trailer regularly.

In terms of price, I paid less for my 2007 Tundra then a comparable model from the big three. A diesel would have cost me an additional ~$8K if I got a similarly fitted interior to my Tundra (i.e. no rubber floors and vinyl seats).

New pickups from any of the major manufacturers are a whole lot better today then they were a few years ago. Variable displacement engines, high horsepower, fuel economy, etc. are valid differences but, in real world terms my 5.7L Tundra matches the economy of the other three makes when equipped similarly (and even does better then some underpowered models).
 
But at 60mph in 4cyl MDS mode, my truck holds 23mpg. I made a 5000mi roadtrip to Iowa last summer and averaged 21mpg the whole trip. Not bad for a 350hp 5.7L Hemi

My 381HP 5.7L Tundra did 22.5mpg doing 80MPH last time. If I slowed down to 60MPH, I think I would beat 23MPG using all 8 cylinders.

The big three seem to be using variable displacement engines as a quick fix to avoid doing some basic engineering and engine redesign work. Variable displacement engines and hybrids don't work well in terms of fuel economy where I live because of the way people drive. In big cities and stop and go traffic they may work better but, hybrids actualy get worse milage then comparable gas only models where I live.
 
From allpar.com, "What's more, acceleration from a standing stop is stunning - with quarter mile times at or under 16 seconds and 0-60 times around 7 seconds - better than a Chrysler 300M!". Refering to the 350 Hemi.
I've owned 2 of these over the last few years and both have been in the shop more than my driveway. So I bought a Tacoma TRD, It will also do 0 to 60 in 7 secs. It hasn't need not one trip back to the dealer. Save yourself some headaches and get the Toyota.
 
My 381HP 5.7L Tundra did 22.5mpg doing 80MPH last time. If I slowed down to 60MPH, I think I would beat 23MPG using all 8 cylinders.

My truck is an 07

The 2009/10 Hemi's have 390HP/407tq and claim 1mpg more than mine.

Better specs all around than the Tundra and it costs less than a similiarly equipped model.

Plus the whole reliability myth is just that. Nowadays you either get a lemon or you don't. Toyota puts out lemons too. I have had zero problems with my 2003 Dakota and 2007 Ram. I take care of my trucks and they last.
 
I bought a Dodge Ram 1500 six weeks ago. cloth buckets, Hemi crew cab. Love the truck. It's faster than h*ll. Lifetime warranty on the powertrain. And did I mention that it's fast?
 
My truck is an 07

The 2009/10 Hemi's have 390HP/407tq and claim 1mpg more than mine.

All the major manufacturers play with the numbers to make their offering look best. In today's marketplace, there are a lot of great options all specs'manship aside.

Better specs all around than the Tundra and it costs less than a similiarly equipped model.

That wasn't my experience when I was in the market but, things change over time and vary in different locations.

Plus the whole reliability myth is just that. Nowadays you either get a lemon or you don't. Toyota puts out lemons too. I have had zero problems with my 2003 Dakota and 2007 Ram. I take care of my trucks and they last.

Reliability myth? Large compilations of consumer experiences are hard to argue with. I do agree however that preventive maintenance goes a long way with improving reliability and longevity in any vehicle.
 
Get the Tundra. Mine's a real workhorse, and will pull stumps out of the ground. Doesn't even notice a 10,000 GW trailer behind it.

Supercharging presents a different set of problems, especially where you live - heat. Not to mention the punishment the internals will take.

So you want a mid-life crisis truck? Get the Tundra, add a 75 to 100 shot of NOS, properly installed with all the safety switches, a good long tube CAI intake and cat-back exhaust and get it dyno tuned. Then learn how to drive it (if improperly used sometimes NOS can go *poof* and parts start to eject themselves thru the hood). Stop light to stop light, quarter mile, or interstate on-ramps, you'll love it, and purging the NOS line at a stop light looks really cool. :cool: It will remain civil for every-day driving or highway use. And your gas mileage will remain acceptable. Not to mention you'll save a few thousand over a supercharger add-on.
 
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