New ZT0550!!!

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Lookin' good!!! Thanks for the pics, Thomas!:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Alann45 said:
Should be absolutely NO problem getting to that number. :D

With the offer of a drawing for one of these great designs and now some t-shirts its a done deal.

In fact its on 14 away as I post this.
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T shirts too!! alright I can't wait, I pre ordered the 551 and I'll probably get the 550 also when it's available
 
For some reason I feel the need right about now to send a huge thank you to Thomas and to Rick. Thank you guys for the pics, the info, and the potential giveaways. I know this was a guaranteed hit from the beginning, but I doubt the anticipation and excitement would've gotten to this point (67,336 views and 1,227 posts not counting this one, as I type this) without the two of you actually coming on here and giving us the little morsels to whet our appetites. Not to mention the carrot-dangling with the video promise, the knife giveaway, and now the potential handout of Hinderer T-shirts...

This is going to be an awesome product, and I know from what's been said it's only the first collaboration between Rick Hinderer and Zero Tolerance, but here's to hoping it's not just the first of a few, but the first of many. Thanks again guys!

Now, how about getting those knives done and in our greedy little hands? :D (I had to do it)
 
Scott Neelan said:
For some reason I feel the need right about now to send a huge thank you to Thomas and to Rick. Thank you guys for the pics, the info, and the potential giveaways. I know this was a guaranteed hit from the beginning, but I doubt the anticipation and excitement would've gotten to this point (67,336 views and 1,227 posts not counting this one, as I type this) without the two of you actually coming on here and giving us the little morsels to whet our appetites. Not to mention the carrot-dangling with the video promise, the knife giveaway, and now the potential handout of Hinderer T-shirts...

This is going to be an awesome product, and I know from what's been said it's only the first collaboration between Rick Hinderer and Zero Tolerance, but here's to hoping it's not just the first of a few, but the first of many. Thanks again guys!

Now, how about getting those knives done and in our greedy little hands? :D (I had to do it)
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This is a big event, without a doubt. It will keep my shipping department (ME) hopping for several days, can't wait !!
 
Sorry I am a ZT/Kershaw idiot ... I have read a lot of this thread and searched it but I still have a list of stupid questions, so I will just throw them all into one thread...

1. what's the blade thickness? Looks like the 350 is .121'', so is the 550/551 the same?

2. Sounds like the Elmax outperforms S30V in most or all of the areas where S30V was designed to excel ... anyone have any idea how it compares to S90V? (edge retention, toughness, strength, ease of re-sharpening, corrosion resistance)

3. this may be a really dumb one, but I want to be sure for California legal reasons ... I saw that this is a full manual mechanism ... does that mean what it sounds like? Totally manual?
 
Thanks for the pics Thomas! I can almost feel it in my hand! It looks even better than I imagined it would. WOW! What a winner!
 
Kirk_Ferentz said:
Sorry I am a ZT/Kershaw idiot ... I have read a lot of this thread and searched it but I still have a list of stupid questions, so I will just throw them all into one thread...

1. what's the blade thickness? Looks like the 350 is .121'', so is the 550/551 the same?

2. Sounds like the Elmax outperforms S30V in most or all of the areas where S30V was designed to excel ... anyone have any idea how it compares to S90V? (edge retention, toughness, strength, ease of re-sharpening, corrosion resistance)

3. this may be a really dumb one, but I want to be sure for California legal reasons ... I saw that this is a full manual mechanism ... does that mean what it sounds like? Totally manual?
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Really? From what I could gather, the only thing anyone would say for sure about it was that it's more stain resistant than S30V.

As for actual performance... well, it's hard to say as nobody really does any extensive testing of knives. Vassili's test ranked Elmax lower than S30V, but a lot of people criticize his "unscientific" methods. Ankerson doesn't seem to have tested this particular steel yet, but I still can't wrap my head around the fact that he ranked CPM 154 above S30V.

Personally, I feel that this steel behaves like S30V. It can take a razor sharp edge, but it will lose that sharpness quickly and keep a working edge for a long while. To me, I feel that stain resistance is more or less negligible in my ZT 0350CB Composite blade. It seems to take a mirror polish better than S30V, but to me that seems to indicate less wear resistant carbides in the steel.

However, it's worth noting that the ZT 0350CB Elmax/14C28N composite model costs a good $30+ more than the ZT 0350 model in S30V steel. One can only hope that you certainly do get what you pay for:rolleyes:.
 
From what I have seen Elmax does much better than S30V, look at some of my previous posts in this thread.
 
knifenut1013 said:
From what I have seen Elmax does much better than S30V, look at some of my previous posts in this thread.
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I would expect Elmax to be Bohler's version of S30V.

But being as greedy as I am, I feel that M390 is "the" steel I'm looking for. But make no mistake, I'm getting this knife:thumbup:.
 
My remark about S30V was based on reading knifenut's comments and I think I saw some other remarks about elmax vs. S30V. Knifenut, do you have anywhere where you wrote more about your tests and results? I have just started looking into elmax but it looks like there isn't a lot out there on it. I've been trying to figure out what folder-steel is for me, and it seems like most of the steels that surpass S30V (e.g. S90V and ZDP-189) have the drawback of being difficult to re-sharpen, which is something that is a concern to me.
 
Count me in for a T-shirt.
I'm glad the 551s are taking a little time. Time to save some $. They'll be out pretty soon though. YES!
 
Kirk_Ferentz said:
My remark about S30V was based on reading knifenut's comments and I think I saw some other remarks about elmax vs. S30V. Knifenut, do you have anywhere where you wrote more about your tests and results? I have just started looking into elmax but it looks like there isn't a lot out there on it. I've been trying to figure out what folder-steel is for me, and it seems like most of the steels that surpass S30V (e.g. S90V and ZDP-189) have the drawback of being difficult to re-sharpen, which is something that is a concern to me.
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There is not much out because this is a very new steel, IMO you will be very happy with this steel not much to not like about it. If you have ever dropped a knife on the ground you know of the damage that can happen, the elmax on my brothers 0350 hardly had a mark. His carry before the 0350 was a Millie, with his average use the elmax is showing 3x the performance of his millie. Combining factors of edge wear, deformation, ability to hold a sharp edge, and how often I need to sharpen it is how I have come to this conclusion thus far. My opinion as of now is that it performs like CPM-D2 but is stainless and has yet to show any chipping.

Have I had the chance to fully test it? No. But I will :)
 
Are those on the list going to have a week or two to decide after the initial run is released? Looks like a decent deal but the price will be close to double the cost of a ZT0200 and I would like to read a review or two first to make sure it is worth the extra money.
 
It's a very tough call with those pics.

Last time I read the thread. The proto backspacer was NOT going to be changed and now there are standoff's like Rick's XM knives. Are they Ti or G-10? :confused:
 
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