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New ZT0562CF Won't Flip

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by exmaxima, May 2, 2015.

  1. exmaxima

    exmaxima

    198
    Jan 30, 2006
    After a 10 month wait my 0562CF was finally shipped to me. Was thrilled to open the box only to find that I could not open the knife with one hand. The closed detent is so stiff that I need the use both hands and pull the blade past the detent. I have other ZT fippers, including an Elmax 0562, and none have this issue.

    So the question is, do I return it or does the detent need to "break in"? After such a long wait I feel miffed that I need to endure a warranty cycle.
     
  2. dr_fosg8

    dr_fosg8

    Mar 17, 2013
    My 452CF was the same way. Just send it in. Mine came back perfect in a little over a month. ZT warranty is one of the best.
     
  3. tokerblue

    tokerblue

    May 1, 2010
    Make sure you are not ANY pressure to the lockbar. It will make it almost impossible to open. Also try adjusting the way you are trying to open the flipper. Try a "light switch" method to overcome the detent.
     
  4. devieduran

    devieduran

    168
    Apr 5, 2015
    Thanks for sharing your experience :) it will be useful advice to buy from ZT

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  5. Twindog

    Twindog Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 6, 2004
    My ZT0562CF came with a stiff detent that makes flipping difficult, too, although not as bad as yours. Mine has loosened up a little after a lot of use, but not much. The flipper still takes considerable pressure to free from the detent.

    We've also seen that there is a wide variance in ZT knives when it comes to stiff detents and lock security. What you're describing is a knife with a detent well out of the range of acceptable. So, yes, I'd send it back in to be repaired.
     
  6. exmaxima

    exmaxima

    198
    Jan 30, 2006
    Yes, I think it would be best to have ZT tune it rather than send it back to the vendor in the hopes of getting a better one. In my experience, the guys in the warranty dept do better work than the assembly line. If I can get it as nice as my Elmax version---arguably the best I have ever flipped---I will very pleased!
     
  7. Yo Mama

    Yo Mama

    Sep 25, 2011
    Sorry, but unacceptable based on the history of this model, how long the wait was, and you'd think they would check and double check them leaving the door. So now the customer who waited 10 months has to wait longer. But hey it's ZT, so they get away with it.
     
  8. BellaBlades

    BellaBlades Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2013
    Ive worked on a few that required a ridiculous amount of pressure and some were perfect. The worst were the last two 0452 that I worked on.
    That said. One of them I just broke the edge of the detent hole and it was fixed as requested.
    Simple as that. You can do the same if you want.
     
  9. exmaxima

    exmaxima

    198
    Jan 30, 2006
    I considered that as well, as I had disassembled most all of my other knives for maintenance or adjustments as you suggested. I was able to loosen the pivot screw using a pair of Torx drivers---it was loaded with blue threadlock and took a lot of torque to budge it. The smaller slab screws came out with no issues. But I could not budge the bottom screw under the clip, and I thought it might break, so I gave up on that plan.
     
  10. dr_fosg8

    dr_fosg8

    Mar 17, 2013

    I thought about doing that to mine as it would have been easy seeing the detent hole is accessible without any disassembly on the 452 but didn't want to void the warranty by filing on it myself.
     
  11. BellaBlades

    BellaBlades Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2013
    I hear you, I dunno I was careful and you hardly see it. I doubt it would even void the warranty. Unless of course you the complain about the detent lol. But otherwise everything else should be covered no problem.
     
  12. GronK

    GronK Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 1, 2001
    Sounds like their emulation of Strider is getting out of control! They should have stopped before they got to "crappy QC".
     
  13. powernoodle

    powernoodle Power Member

    Jul 21, 2004
    I have recounted this in other threads, but my 0452CF required the blade to be shortened so it wouldn't stab me when the knife was closed. Short version is that ZT's customer service is excellent, and turnaround time was a couple of weeks. So call them up, ask for a shipping label, and let them fix it. Its a little bit of a hassle, but well worth it in the long run.
     
  14. HappyDaddy

    HappyDaddy Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 21, 2013
    My 0801 S110v had a detent that was too strong for my taste. It may or may not have been within their specs - I didn't ask and didn't really care. I sent it in, described my issue, and had it back in absolutely perfect shape in two weeks.
     
  15. Blues Bender

    Blues Bender Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 2014
    I know that 100% of people here will hate me for saying this, but I think ZT is crap. I own 3, and I'm constantly reminded that better quality can be had for similar prices...

    The 0454 is my only ZT that is worth carrying, and I still think there are better things out there.
     
  16. Jasonsdman

    Jasonsdman

    266
    Mar 15, 2012
    Wow! That's pretty harsh, but I agree with you somewhat. Their prices are high, but I don't see any real competition in the Ti/CF RIL flipper market other than Reate and Kizer who are both China based. Anything else better is probably midtech and priced higher.
     
  17. Jasonsdman

    Jasonsdman

    266
    Mar 15, 2012
    Anyway, back on topic, ZT does have a great warranty. I had very bad lock stick on an 0560 and they replaced the whole lock side, sharpened it, and returned it in two weeks. My 0392 also had super strong detent, I light-switched it until it broke in. Perfect flipping action now. So it's up to you whether you can deal with the issue or not, but know that ZT will take care of you.
     
  18. Blues Bender

    Blues Bender Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 2014
    ^thats exactly my point. I hear a lot of stories about people sending their brand new ZT in for warranty, they should leave the factory right the first time... Or they need to "break in", whatever that means.

    All my ZT's have terribly fitted locks, I can do something as simple as carve wood lath and the lock stick is ridiculous. My 0452 can be pushed all the way to 100% lockup, and the 0454 isn't much better...
     
  19. Comeuppance

    Comeuppance Fixed Blade EDC Emisssary Gold Member

    Jan 12, 2013
    The 0392BWBRZ I have kicking around has the strongest detente I've ever felt on a knife. My SO can't flip it at all, and it leaves a painful red dent in my fingertip unless I lightswitch it.
     
  20. jeeper9010

    jeeper9010

    83
    Dec 29, 2014
    I would have to agree with this. I would be upset with a $50 knife let along a $240 one that I waited nearly a year for. Completely unacceptable.
     

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