New ZT0562CF Won't Flip

Don't know if arguing about this stuff is beneficial to me. Discussing is one thing but when every thread goes to an argument it's probably best just to back away slowly. There's a lot of good on this forum but damn if there's not a lot of people trying to put down others' experiences and opinions. Just not worth it. Dude said that his knife couldn't be flipped because the detent was too hard. I have no reason to doubt him. IMO that's a defective product. That's my opinion and the last I'll say about it. There are too many threads and posts to keep up with showing what KAI is doing and not doing. My life doesn't revolve around KAI but I am interested in what's going on with the knife world. It sucks that so much of it is taken up by KAI and whatever they're doing, either good or bad. I'm honestly tired of it. I'm more interested in that Boiler you're showing off in the other thread.

Bodog please understand I am not holding anything against you. I dont hold resentments to anyone. If I did I wouldnt be civil with you in other threads like the one you are mentioning. And any razzing done in the W&C is just that and not meant to be personal. To be clear I am not saying that the OP's knife is or isnt defective. I havent handled it so I dont know. What I do know is that they are intentionally making newer knives with strong detents on purpose. So when I see someone state they are having a hard time opening a new version of a knife and using the older models as comparison I cant in good judgement say that he is correct, just as I cant say it isnt. So to me its just as unfair to sit and speculate and point fingers at the company for a defective product without all the information.

I may be wrong but from my observations I feel you hold resentment towards Kai for a couple bunk knives you got in the past. The CBCF was a truly jacked up knife. I can see it plain as day in the pics you posted of that thing. But you said you are satisfied with the outcome of all that. But your posts and threads seem to indicate a different story. You have created threads specifically calling into question what they do or have done and I am not saying you try to find threads about Kai to tell your story but it surely seems that if you happen to find one you have no reservations about rehashing all of it again. That to me does not seem like a person who is over it and has nothing against them.

Then if you combine what to many seems like a "guilty until proven innocent" attitude whenever someone mentions they think they may have a problem with a kai knife and your actions speak louder than your rebuttals. Again you can be in denial but I am far from the only person who has said these things to you. And you may say you are sick of it, but in a day or two if that I would bet money we are going to be right back here again. But you know what If you are fair and are open to the possibility of a reasonable explanation I wont be complaining. But if you claim to know its defective by a simple statement and come in with all the BS from previous threads sick of it or not I will voice my opinion too.
 
I sometimes like threads like these. Comical entertainment. But when most participants bow out and it becomes a simple two person tit-for-tat, the fun ends.

So I'll just end my participation with......I still LOVE ZT's. I've had issues. But I step back, and work it through. Life goes on. My family thinks I live, love, and breath guns and knives.....but they don't even see the half of of it [emoji56]
 
its easy to type harsh words on the board but your right in person most people just smile
but we all have one thing the same we are knife nuts to the end lololol
my zt is a good knife but the grind job sucks on it flips good and looks good locks up great...
but the other day i missed my para so in the gun cab it went not sure when it will come back out lol
Glad to know that we can speak like adults here:thumbup:

I can guarantee that you wouldn't be speaking in the same tone and mannerism if all of us were discussing this in person. It's funny how some people automatically put on the "internet tough-guy persona" from being butthurt because someone disagrees with you:rolleyes:

My life is great btw, thank you very much... I've traveled over 20 states, I'm planning on buying a new house soon, I'm getting a new car soon, I have 3+ customs being made for me at the moment, I'm a proud uncle, the right-hand man of a construction company, the list goes on... You really seem to have no life to make such an assumption towards people:) Perhaps you're so angry because you've been buying ZT's for too long;):thumbup:
 
You once again fail to see the point. Which was that a knife that is designed to have a hard detent is not failing out of the box. It was the individuals failure to research what they are buying and letting their preconceived notions of how they believe a knife should be made that is leading them to conclusions of a defective knife. A knife simply cant be defective if it is operating the way the maker intended despite any feelings otherwise by the owner.

So I buy a 0562 and love the flipper action, and then order a 0562CF version which comes so stiff I could not even open it. How did I not do my research? Was I to assume that I will not get a second knife from ZT even remotely like the first one? Maybe cars should be like that where I test drive one and should be happy with whatever the maker decides to ship me...

I don't think you actually understand what you wrote.
 
So I buy a 0562 and love the flipper action, and then order a 0562CF version which comes so stiff I could not even open it. How did I not do my research? Was I to assume that I will not get a second knife from ZT even remotely like the first one? Maybe cars should be like that where I test drive one and should be happy with whatever the maker decides to ship me...

I don't think you actually understand what you wrote.

Some are stiffer than others. I the latest ZT's I have all are pretty consistent with the 0808 being the lightest detent setup and very consistent as I have has 3 of them. The 900 is a little beastly flipper. Like a rocket ship!!
 
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