NGK and Benchmade

That is pretty unreal. At the least he could have waited until he was done talking to walk away. Anyways NGK is a great place to buy from not because of the prices witch are good but because of their survice to the customer. Equal to the best.
 
Usually they don't like cross-forum posting. I think its good to get the situation out there to the knife community though. What a crock!
 
That is very disheartening. I have purchased nearly all of my knives from New Graham, and I have always been exceptionally satisfied with every aspect of the experience. I can't imagine how Benchmade could possibly consider it a good decision to blatantly alienate one of the most highly regarded knife dealers around. :(
 
NGK is the only place i buy my knives. i know the fellas personally and was there today in fact... brought home a spyderco manix and a bm rant bowie.
 
I've always wondered why Les does not post at any forum. Sal makes him look bad by all the nice posting he does here and over at the Spyderco forum.

I have to say, that this is very poor on BM's part. I talked to the folks at NGK about this not too long ago and I can tell you for sure that I'll keep buying from them.

If they stop selling Benchmade then I will not buy Benchmade anymore. As it is Benchmade has lost my business due to all the good knives they discontinued and the knives that they have been bringing out lately don't excite me at all.

Oh well. Benchmade's loss. :thumbdn:
 
I quit buying BM's when they started treating their dealers like slaves.
 
I quit buying spyderco:thumbdn: when they quit making interesting knives. Oh wait, they never made any interesting knives.:eek:
 
I quit buying spyderco when they quit making interesting knives. Oh wait, they never made any interesting knives.
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I thought you just posted elsewhere that we won't see you talking crap about Spyderco or other knives there Benchmadenut? :rolleyes:


Most of the competitive retailers for NGK are the real issue to contend with as far as where to lay blame for BMs actions. And not just the other brick and mortar stores either. What BM did is a symptom brought on by something else repeatedly over time as I see it. The guys on the wholesale end over at BM are no different than any other human when it comes to their nature. I mean if you had 50 guys calling you all the time complaining about 1 guys prices like its your fault day in and day out you'd want to put closure to it wouldn't you?

Something has to give and apparently the head ups at BM decided it was better to lose one customer rather than 50. Its a tough deal anyway you look at it and yes its sad. I guess we will have to see over the next few months how it panned out. If Mike can still get BM and sell them to us at the prices we've grown used to I could care less if hes a gold member dealer or whatever it is with them and I'm sure BM knows he can still get the knives and sell them, make a small profit and at the same time they won't have to answer calls or threats from other dealers because it is out of their hands now. They did all they could do on their end to shut up the complainers. Like everyone else around here, I'll pay a few bucks more if I like you but when it comes to shopping you have to be thrifty.

Next all the calls and complaining the guys over at BM get will be on trying to find out where NGK is getting their knives from so they can point the finger to another dealer to blame. Its a viscious cycle.

STR
 
I've purchased a few Spydercos. Only have one now. As I said before, though, I as a consumer, refuse to support a company that would so willingly treat their own dealers with this kind of contempt. I have no bias towards Spyderco, but I DO have a bias against companies who treat dealers in a contemptable manner.

Oh, and as per your language in the other thread, I'm NOT a moderator, but there ARE still rules here on the forum. You don't need vulgar language to disagree with someone.

BITE ME!

See, it's easy. :D
 
i was at NGK today and talked to Mike for about 2 hours. He said basically that BM was pissed off because he was doing what a businessman in a capitalistic society does... sell knives as cheap as he can afford to to get more customers and please them with stellar CS.. well BM has decided that he is selling them too cheap like they have some solid stance to tell him what he can and cant do, WITH HIS KNIVES! i was kinda upset with BM when he told me this.. But i like ole Mike the pharmacist so much i took a BM off his hands today, because i needed a deer hunting knife...

oh yea, i also bought the Manix!!!! and i cant say anything short of I LOVE THE MANIX!
 
BenchmadeNut said:
I quit buying spyderco:thumbdn: when they quit making interesting knives. Oh wait, they never made any interesting knives.:eek:
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You quit using your brain when you joined BFC. Bring it to W&C jacka$$.


We are waiting.


Have you forgotten already?

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There's one thing I don't understand.

If your competition has lower prices than you, the easiest thing to do is lower your prices to match them, or beat them. It's not exactly rocket science. Sure it cuts into your already low profit, but you can't make money if you don't sell anything.

What's really funny is that the unless these competitors are brick and mortar stores like NGK, they have nothing to complain about.

NGK, as a brick and mortar store, will have significantly more operating costs than a normal online dealer. For an online dealer to complain about that is just ridiculous.
 
GFarrell3 said:
You quit using your brain when you joined BFC. Bring it to W&C jacka$$.


We are waiting.


Have you forgotten already?

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Edited for foul language , it's hard to understand you.
 
SpyderJon said:
I've purchased a few Spydercos. Only have one now. As I said before, though, I as a consumer, refuse to support a company that would so willingly treat their own dealers with this kind of contempt. I have no bias towards Spyderco, but I DO have a bias against companies who treat dealers in a contemptable manner.

Oh, and as per your language in the other thread, I'm NOT a moderator, but there ARE still rules here on the forum. You don't need vulgar language to disagree with someone.

BITE ME!

See, it's easy. :D
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Your name is spyderJon and you have no bias against any knife company? Me neither.

I guess i did start cussing up a storm there, please quote it for everyone else.

"Bite Me"? Did i upset you with my common sense? Im sorry, it won't happen again.
 
BenchmadeNut said:
I quit buying spyderco:thumbdn: when they quit making interesting knives. Oh wait, they never made any interesting knives.:eek:
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Sure they did/do. Spyderco made the first knife with a pocket clip, now Benchmade makes them, too. Spyderco made the first knife with a thumb-hole, then BM licensed it's use and made a couple models with the same exact hole (AFCK & Eclipse/Ascent-which looks nothing like a Spyderco BTW:rolleyes: ). I see it as a "cause/effect" type of scenario, Benchmade is interesting because Spyderco is innovative.;)

I have plenty of Benchmades (710, 730, 970, 975, 530, 722), but won't buy any more until I feel that Benchmade has "shaped up".

All the best,
3G
 
BenchmadeNut said:
I quit buying spyderco:thumbdn: when they quit making interesting knives. Oh wait, they never made any interesting knives.:eek:
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Its a shame to see such blatant flamebait on this forum.

BenchmadeNut said:
Please remove you tongue from Rat Finksteins a$$:barf: , it's hard to understand you.
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And such poor manners.

The quality of a forum is determined by the quality of its posters, you do a disservice to this site and the rest of its members when you post like this.

On topic, Benchmade is free to do business with the companies that it wants to do business with, and it can exclude companies it does not want to do business with. Why it doesn't want a business relationship with NGK is anyone's guess. Looking at NG.com now, all the BMs are OOS, so the consequences are already apparent.

Maybe if there is a significant effect on sales BM will reconsider. It doesn't really make sense to take away an outlet for purchase that your customers like and use. We are probably not getting the full picture here.
 
I think the full picture is here.
Benchmade wants to pricefix their knives. NGK wants to set their own prices.
Unnamed dealers jealous of NGK's popularity, who are charging more- complain to Benchmade, and Benchmade makes a poor decision. Simple greed, IMO (Benchmade and the dealers who complained)

I now plan to only buy Benchmades through NGK, so by cutting them off, Benchmade looses multiple sales. (my reasoning is, I will not unwittingly support one of the businesses that complained about NGK)
 
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