No more liner / frame locks for me !

Insipid Moniker said:
...because the axis lock has been repeatedly demonstrated to hold up with high pressure on the spine of the blade.
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As opposed to what? I'd like to see this demonstration you speak of that shows an axis lock being superior than other lock types when it comes to lock failure
 
Triad lock and Axis locks are great, but for what you seem to be using knives for you need to just get a fixed blade, no folder will have the strength of a fixed blade. You can find some good fixed blades that are lightweight or overbuilt it just depends on what you are using it for. Lightweight most likely for biking, but really if your going to be trying to slam through logs then get a fixed blade.
 
Another example of how "steel insert lock face" is just a fail innovation. You can test every single frame lock knife with steel inserted lock face by just doing some light spine wrack, it will fail much easier than steel on titanium. I sold my Tuff because of it fail and cut my hand when did that kind of test.

The shortened steep frame lock of the Tuff while technically would increase strength, it will also make the lock much more phone to slip off when got some impact.
 
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Where the OP was cut, looking at my Tuff opened swinging the blade closed holding it, he had to have a half grip on the knife.
 
shqxk said:
Another example of how "steel insert lock face" is just a fail innovation. You can test every single frame lock knife with steel inserted lock face by just doing some light spine wrack, it will fail much easier than steel on titanium. I sold my Tuff because of it fail and cut my hand when did that kind of test.

The shortened steep frame lock of the Tuff while technically would increase strength, it will also make the lock much more phone to slip off when got some impact.
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Possibly because folders weren't intended for ppl to spine wack them
 
I don't care what brand, what price, who the designer de jour is when it comes to folders, if you are a user and not a collector, the lock, any and every lock, will eventually fail; and when I say user, I don't mean using your big azz Strider at work cutting cardboard, twine, and tape. For me, all my folders that see regular use and in a pinch go from simply cutting open a taped box, all the way up to slicing meat, veggies, and fruit when I'm on the road, or in a backyard BBQ...anything more intense would and should require a fixed blade. There's a reason you don't see a folding bayonet affixed to a rifle.;)

This post will most assuredly bring out the haters.
 
Sure folder weren't design to stand abuse. But spine wracking will indicated how the knife would stand against impact/rear force which are eventuality in real hard use.
 
Alnamvet68 said:
I don't care what brand, what price, who the designer de jour is when it comes to folders, if you are a user and not a collector, the lock, any and every lock, will eventually fail; and when I say user, I don't mean using your big azz Strider at work cutting cardboard, twine, and tape. For me, all my folders that see regular use and in a pinch go from simply cutting open a taped box, all the way up to slicing meat, veggies, and fruit when I'm on the road, or in a backyard BBQ...anything more intense would and should require a fixed blade. There's a reason you don't see a folding bayonet affixed to a rifle.;)

This post will most assuredly bring out the haters.
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So what is a point for making 0.19" thick 3V blade and put it in a folder with extra large pivot and thick slap of Ti? People would expect more than cutting open a taped box when them spend 250$ for the Tuff.

sorry for double posted.
 
If you use any folder very hard, just as you would a fixed blade you're just asking to be cut. I have found you have to have a sense of caution with folders. That is you can't just jam them in a log and try to twist them out, while holding them in a compromised grip. That goes for any type lock, you gain a feel over time of how to use a folding knife safely. I was badly cut by a folder once, because I was stupid and careless, using it with no caution whatsoever. It was a lock-back and I consider it my fault for not considering that the lock could give, because I was treating it like it was a fixed blade.
 
shqxk said:
So what is a point for making 0.19" thick 3V blade and put it in a folder with extra large pivot and thick slap of Ti? People would expect more than cutting open a taped box when them spend 250$ for the Tuff.

sorry for double posted.
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I don't really know what the "point" is....perhaps some feel like they're Beau Geste, or Dick Marcinko with a Capital One black titanium credit card when they go to war with their $500 Emerson in their backyard; who knows.
 
Personally, I prefer my back lock folders, but I must say my Zancudo's frame lock is pretty stout for a sub-$50 folder.
 
Get a fixed blade, maybe something from Busse Combat, with their iNFI steel. Seems a folder is not working for you.
 
Alnamvet68 said:
Let me be more precise, I don't know of any US or NATO military force that issues a folding bayonet as part of their kit.
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It's not considered to be all that important in modern warfare anyway, to have a bayonet affixed. The folding bayonet on a SKS wouldn't fail, because it is spring loaded and has a steel ring that goes over the barrel. Probably just as strong as any other method. Back when it was in use in battle, it was considered important to be able to transform your weapon into a spear quickly.
 
First thing I noticed in the pic is the wound is on the left hand. All you right handlers can shut it. You don't know what your talking about because you don't have the proper experience - which is using these types of locks and being a southpaw. True, it isn't a "lock failure". It is a design failure from a left handed view. I also shy away from liner/frame locks for this reason. I have also accidentally disengaged this type lock with my grip alone.
OP, I would recommend the axis, ball bearing(not as much), and triad. These are ambi locks. Or you could seek a left handed version with liner/frame lock. If you are a righty, don't use your left hand with liner/frame locks.
Sorry about your accident! I've almost been there myself, making feather sticks, not typically considered hard use.
 
I can't get this one closed, even if I try when the disc is turned in, so it should be pretty much foolproof.

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