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Off Topic No such thing as a bad/ "evil" knife , if it works !

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by DocJD, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. willc

    willc Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 13, 2013
    I call BS here. Maybe his grandma gifted him the knife?

    Not everyone is a knife expert and not everyone views people who carry crazy looking tackytool knife as insane or criminal.

    Really only a small portion of the population in the USA are like this but they are very vocal and get lots of news coverage.

    I m glad the kid carried a knife.
  2. David Mary

    David Mary KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 23, 2015
    BS = bogus statement :D

    There is not a sufficient laughing emoji to capture my appreciation for this new (to me) term!

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  3. User27


    Apr 23, 2017
    And not every one who carries a crazy rad tacti-cool tool is some insane person out to kill people...Ex: @stabman :D
    If walked up to him in person dressed like this I woulda nopped immediately outta his way.and if you showed me this and told me that was the same guy...
    I would have told you he seems more like some likable goof than some sort of sketchy guy with a black leather jacket,bandanna,and
    big knife.

    I'm not really sure why Marcinek viewed the karambit guy in such a bad light and i'm not gonna post my assumptions out loud because that could be a touchy subject..Even though Marcinek seems to be the type of person to have strong opinions, (which can be a good a thing) if you can accept that you might grow to like him.I remember in past threads he seemed like a decent person,he just made himself look bad in this one.Im pretty confident he doesn't even wish any harm to karambit guy.
  4. Wowbagger

    Wowbagger Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    If you have ever seen a Cold Steel serrated blade cut through TWO , count 'em, TWO !
    free hanging ropes at a single swipe . . .
    . . . that is pretty Bad ! ;)
    . . . boardering on "evil" ish ;)

    Oh it works. Brother !

    I don't have one but it is fun to watch 'em go.
    I do have the same knives in plain edge. :thumbsup:
  5. drail


    Feb 23, 2008
    "Weapon" is such a useful word for liberal politicians and snowflakes. The beauty is you can apply it to anything and it scares the bejeezus out of people who have never used a tool in their life.
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  6. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I have been on a Rough Rider slip joint binge for the last couple of years. Maybe some one might complain about those $8-$15 knives.

    I was 16 once too. Cut the kid a break. He did a good thing. Surprised I haven't seen him on Fox News morning show by now.
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  7. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    I am sure many would be alarmed by your knives. they alarm easily.
    When your young cool can be as important as function, but I have no evidence of him using the knife in an inappropriate manner. The guy seems pretty grounded- working a job and now saving a life. I will look elsewhere for villains, even though I do consider perception important.
    Always comes back to it being the person not the article that is at fault. Inanimate objects are neither good nor bad.
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  8. stabman

    stabman Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 17, 2007
    You can be both. :D
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  9. DocJD


    Jan 29, 2016
    You seem a bit confused ! :p

    I'm not defending bad behavior . You can be an A-hole in public with ANY kind of knife or almost anything "threatening" . Everyday , common objects become threatening in the context of crazy behavior . A butcher's , boning , skinning , or even a paring knife can be perceived as a threat if brandished in an aggressive manner or out of normal context . So can a can of gasoline and a bic lighter or a piece of Saran Wrap .

    I don't personally see weapons per se as threatening . It all depends on the situation and the intent of the armed persons .

    Some people seem very hypocritical about the essential evil of weapons and those competent in their use . When used to protect THEM , as in soldiers ,LEO or their own private security apparatus ...weapons and warriors are great ! But if not under their direct control , then weapons/warriors are bad .

    If you really believe that self defense is wrong , and also allowing anyone else to defend you ...then maybe you have a consistent argument against weapons . Otherwise it's just the crassest hypocrisy . :mad::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
  10. James Y

    James Y

    Feb 18, 1999
    When I was a kid back in junior high (1970s), I carried a normal slipjoint of some kind, usually a medium stockman by either Schrade or Buck.

    But in 1977 when I was 14, I bought a cheap switchblade with a 3" blade (which made it illegal to carry) off of a classmate for $5 (he got the better end of the deal). I wanted it because I had seen an episode of Baretta that had a serial "slasher" who used a switchblade, and I thought the knife was 'cool' and wanted one for myself. I could tell it was cheap, with some kind of soft, chrome-coated blade steel that wouldn't take an edge. But it snapped open pretty good, and I fancied myself as "The Man Who Carried A Switchblade," because it was illegal, even if I never told anybody else about it. I still carried a stockman in my left pocket to actually cut things with.

    I thought carrying a switchblade to school made me cool, until one day in class I discovered it had come partially open in my pocket and the tip of the blade had been lightly poking my sack. Thereafter, it lived in a drawer at home.

    So yeah, I went through a sort of "Tacticool tough guy" mindset for a short while in my youth. That's not so unusual. I know I never would have pulled it on anyone. For me, it was the idea of carrying something I knew I wasn't supposed to, and getting away with it.

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  11. marcinek


    Jan 9, 2007
    Well, I guess we couldn't avoid politics.
  12. stabman

    stabman Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 17, 2007
    Dealing with light sack stabbing is what proves one's tough guy credentials though. :D

    Doesn't sound like a knife I'd want to carry...I'm just not tough enough for that lifestyle. ;)
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  13. marcinek


    Jan 9, 2007
    Hardly confused, @DocJD .

    We were talking about the impressions knives give. You talked about his as a tool, and now you are talking about it as a weapon.

    But you have forgotten the subject of your own thread, the impression that a knife can give.

    And a karambit gives a different impression than a SAK, and so does choosing to carry one.
  14. YellowSwiss


    Sep 28, 2015
    I only use my Freddie Kruger glove to cut seat belts.
  15. DocJD


    Jan 29, 2016
    The impression given by either knife depends entirely on the viewpoints and preconceptions of the perceiver . It's NOT some universal truth ! :rolleyes:

    Lots of people think SAK type knives are really old fashion and lame ...not cool at all . Whereas a karambit is way cool and badass because it was in a video game or a movie they have seen .

    Some other people still hang onto their old SAKS with fondness . ;) They might think karambits are evil and too terrible to exist .

    I don't make it my business to decide what kind of knife others should like or carry .

    The distinction between tool vs weapon is more about how it's actually used . Almost any blade can be either .

    I suspect that in the real world , these days , that most blades used in actually fighting are probably not ones originally classified as weapons .

    Conversely , very few sold for their weapons potential are ever really used for fighting .

    I read recently , the weapon of choice in the UK ,statistically, is the kitchen knife ! :eek:
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  16. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I think that's why where was a suggestion to make them all pointless kind of like the SAK "My First Knife". It's all just a bunch of ridiculousness.
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  17. BenchCo Spydermade

    BenchCo Spydermade

    Feb 10, 2014
    So the kid may not have enjoyed carrying an SAK. A knife one doesnt have cant save someone. Fact is, he saved someone. YOU are the one judging it as a stab happy psycho knife. Wouldnt that make all gun owners shoot happy psychos?
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  18. marcinek


    Jan 9, 2007
    We all know he saved someone. It's great. We have had a half dozen threads on the topic in the last couple days.

    We are talking about knife choices, why people choose certain knives, and what impression those knives make.

    People choose tacti-ninja knives. A big part of knife choice is image, self-expression and impression. We all know that. Why there are so many kinds of knives.

    We can stick our heads in the sand and pretend that the image problem we have is not partially caused by us, or we can just go on whining here when "sheeple" look at us the wrong way when we open a saltine packet at Olive Garden with a CS XXXXL Stabinator.

    As for gun owners...I don't know. I haven't mentioned them, its a knife forum. Ask him...

  19. marcinek


    Jan 9, 2007
    Good point. Every Christmas my Gramma would give me a knit scarf, a big sweater, and a karambit.
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  20. BenchCo Spydermade

    BenchCo Spydermade

    Feb 10, 2014
    Image is poppycock. Something is dangerous or not. The adornment of skulls or butterflies doesnt change that. I personally think too many people in this world are too busy judging things based on image when image is simply superficial and doesnt make some th hing more dangerous. All a karambit is is a hawkbill with a ring. Call it a karambit and some folks start judging i guess.
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